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What if Viacom or some other big broadcasting company is buying Q shares by the billions at these prices. It would seem that when buy out time came, they just show that they already own a third of the company for almost nothing and only have to pay for the small remainder. I don't know what could be stopping them. Is that going to define a big buy out? -------- Dig, if Frank does control 53%, he could charge any potential suitor as much money as he wanted for the share that would tip the balance. Be it .05 or 5 billion.
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A little help here please. Is market gainer one of the paid pumpers that companies pay to inform shareholders of their company?
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this is so odd....hey when were people promised those investors DVDs? were these things ever made i thought they were going to mailed out in october. anyone here order one and if you did what was the date you were told?
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quote:Originally posted by DIGDOUGH: MT, sounds as though Market Gainer is as confused as I am.
LOL probably, i didnt really read it, because as peaser says, this is probably just a paid pump by QBID. who knows these day, im so numb to this stock at this point i just laugh!
RS bring it on! Bankruptcy, is that all you got? Class action lawsuit, now your talkin!
LMAO, sorry guys, just a little insight into how numb i am. Like were talking 1.5B shares sold at the bid today and 1 MM moves off bid, give me a break.
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Cash, thats one of the things that kills me about these guys. They say all kinds of sh1t, but when it time to show their hand they flip the table over in your lap and head for the door. The DVD is way way over due and the only substitutue for it are lots of excuses.
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: this is so odd....hey when were people promised those investors DVDs? were these things ever made i thought they were going to mailed out in october. anyone here order one and if you did what was the date you were told?
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If this company is being built to sell, would you build it different than if you were going to keep it. I thought Frank said we get paid when it is sold?
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put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
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I really dont give two shi*s about the DVD. Give me a break, dont produce the friggen thing. 2,000 requests for it, at $10 a DVD, and were talkin more dilution. Forget the friggen thing.
Only problem is it is one more thing they promise but dont follow thru with, so i think the lie is so big now that they have to create a DVD.
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quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: I really dont give two shi*s about the DVD. Give me a break, dont produce the friggen thing. 2,000 requests for it, at $10 a DVD, and were talkin more dilution. Forget the friggen thing.
Only problem is it is one more thing they promise but dont follow thru with, so i think the lie is so big now that they have to create a DVD.
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
Any guesses as to how long you think the sell order will take to fill?
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Luckily (or not) my buy-in avg. is .00072 so I'm here until we (hopefully) see an uptrend.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
Any guesses as to how long you think the sell order will take to fill?
you gotta realize your putting your order in at the end of the line, and there is 8MM in front of you looking to sell at .0005 and who knows, some maybe looking to sell 1B+ shares, so the only chance it sells is if we see enormous buying pressure like last wednesday. id be shocked if it sells today.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
Any guesses as to how long you think the sell order will take to fill?
you gotta realize your putting your order in at the end of the line, and there is 8MM in front of you looking to sell at .0005 and who knows, some maybe looking to sell 1B+ shares, so the only chance it sells is if we see enormous buying pressure like last wednesday. id be shocked if it sells today.
So, MT, the only way I'd be able to sell quickly...is if I were to drop the price I wanted...say to 0004 or 0003... just to get out ahead of the MMs? Or will it still fall in line no matter what price?
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
Any guesses as to how long you think the sell order will take to fill?
you gotta realize your putting your order in at the end of the line, and there is 8MM in front of you looking to sell at .0005 and who knows, some maybe looking to sell 1B+ shares, so the only chance it sells is if we see enormous buying pressure like last wednesday. id be shocked if it sells today.
So, MT, the only way I'd be able to sell quickly...is if I were to drop the price I wanted...say to 0004 or 0003... just to get out ahead of the MMs? Or will it still fall in line no matter what price?
no you dont need .0003, but .0004 is the bid. so if you sold at .0004 it would sell in like 30 seconds. If you tried to sell at .0005 you would have to wait till all 8 MM currently on the ask got filled and moved off the ask. Not saying that wont happen, but sometimes the MM will stay on the ask for days, weeks at a time. With QBID, its very hard to sell at the ask.
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: put my sell order in for 848,500 shares at .0005. lost big on this one guys....going to put it into GZFX, at .024 and then sell at .o4 and then buy back into Q at .0004.
I was thinking about doing exactly that...
Any guesses as to how long you think the sell order will take to fill?
you gotta realize your putting your order in at the end of the line, and there is 8MM in front of you looking to sell at .0005 and who knows, some maybe looking to sell 1B+ shares, so the only chance it sells is if we see enormous buying pressure like last wednesday. id be shocked if it sells today.
So, MT, the only way I'd be able to sell quickly...is if I were to drop the price I wanted...say to 0004 or 0003... just to get out ahead of the MMs? Or will it still fall in line no matter what price?
no you dont need .0003, but .0004 is the bid. so if you sold at .0004 it would sell in like 30 seconds. If you tried to sell at .0005 you would have to wait till all 8 MM currently on the ask got filled and moved off the ask. Not saying that wont happen, but sometimes the MM will stay on the ask for days, weeks at a time. With QBID, its very hard to sell at the ask.
Ok, so then the question is--
Do I bite the bullet...sell at 0004 Try my luck at 0005 Wait and see what happens with both (GZFX and QTN)
I think I'll probably just wait it out...ahhhh
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MT, thats the way I feel about the DVD at this time. Jsut another decoy. And probably doesn't say antyhing new anyway. Save the money on that, fire the Ir guy. Little things like that add up in operating costs. And savings.
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gawd, I hope not, These are good sound posters from IHUB:
Posted by: malebaboon In reply to: None Date:11/28/2005 1:16:13 PM Post #of 190835
My honest opinion -
is that we have toxic debt here. Its the only scenario that could fit all the known facts and behaviors of this stock. It could be a combination of others, but I subscribe to Occam's Razor (paraphrased) "the simplest solution must be assumed true unless proven false".
I think the 'funding through 2008' is a deal Frank signed with 'investment bankers' similar to those outlined in the Time article. Its why he needs to raise the AS and why he concoted this 'restricted shares for movie library deal' as a cover for the truth. Whoever is selling here has no regard for the share price - even in the face of improving prospects for the network. So, if this is authentic selling volume, the seller is only interested in cash and basically has an unlimited number of shares to sell.
Frank also fits that bill - but I don't think it's him (directly) because the cable companies wouldn't be signing on unless there was some relative guarantee of funding for Q. Frank couldn't satisfy them with "look, I'll just sell shares ad infinitum to fund your requirements". But a signed contract to provide funding would satisfy them. The end result is the same - run the presses.
There are other possibilities but, unfortunately, the above scenario fits all the observable facts.
The only hope, IMO, is that Frank will close the gap between expenses and income in the near future, and the 'funding' can stop or slow considerably.
MB ----------------------------------------------- Posted by: jacques0 In reply to: None Date:11/28/2005 12:54:26 PM Post #of 190837
Despite my earlier post, I must admit that the Time Magazine article posted/linked/discussed yesterday or Saturday does suggest a frighteningly similar scenario here. Let's hope the co. can survive and grow until it can shake off this sort of thing. ------------------------------------------------- http://www.time.com/time/insidebiz/article/0,9171,1126706,00.html
From the Magazine | Time Bonus Section December 2005: Inside Business Watch Out, They Bite! HOW HEDGE FUNDS TIED TO EMBATTLED BROKER REFCO USED "NAKED SHORT SELLING" TO PLUNDER SMALL COMPANIES By DANIEL KADLEC SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHOR Posted Wednesday, Nov. 09, 2005 Thomas Badian was expecting a package, just not this one. Standing in his doorway, smiling, he opened the envelope a courier handed to him. Then he froze, and the color drained from his face. It was over: after two years overseas, the former New York City hedge-fund operator had been located. Badian slammed the door of his posh Vienna, Austria, apartment in the heart of the city's embassy quarter--but not before being officially served with a civil lawsuit linking him to the beleaguered U.S. commodities firm Refco and tying him and Refco to a type of fraud that some argue has destroyed thousands of companies and bilked investors out of billions of dollars.
The boyish-looking Badian, 36, of East European descent, seems an unlikely key figure in a high-stakes Wall Street intrigue. Yet long-standing criminal and civil charges place Badian at the center of a scheme to lend Arizona software developer Sedona much needed operating capital, then trigger the collapse of its stock and profit from the company's demise. This pattern is also alleged in the civil suit handed to Badian on Aug. 8 in his apartment in Austria--only this time the mark was pet-supplies company Pet Quarters, based in Lonoke, Ark.
Three years ago, Badian paid a $1 million fine to settle a Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) charge that he had manipulated Sedona's shares. Related criminal charges were filed a few months later, but by then Badian had fled. His whereabouts were recently given to U.S. Attorney Michael Garcia in New York City, whose office is handling the criminal case. Garcia's office said only that the case remains open.
Yet the Badian episode might have been forgotten if not for its ties to Refco, which last month admitted to reporting false results after hiding $430 million of uncollectible debt. Refco CEO Phillip Bennett was charged with fraud, and his company sank into bankruptcy protection within days. It turns out, plaintiff lawyers say, that Badian had been making some of his Sedona trades through Refco, which has acknowledged an SEC investigation.
Looking the other way while clients manipulated the shares of small companies through what's known as naked short selling appears to have been yet another questionable way of doing business at Refco. Short selling is legal: you borrow stock, then sell it and hope to buy it back at a lower price, profiting from the difference. But naked short selling is illegal, barring certain exceptions for brokers trying to maintain an orderly market. In naked short selling, you execute the sale without borrowing the stock. The SEC noted in a report last year the "pervasiveness" of the practice. When not caught, this kind of selling has no limits and allows a seller to drive down a stock.
Brokers are required to ask a client the nature of a stock sale. If it's a short sale, the broker must ascertain if the client has been able to borrow the stock. "I have seen evidence that links Badian and/or Refco to more than 50 stocks that were driven into the ground," says Wes Christian, part of a legal team headed by billionaire Texas tobacco litigator John O'Quinn, who is amassing a case against Badian, other hedge funds and now possibly Refco. Refco declined to comment. Badian didn't come to the door when a TIME reporter rang his bell. His lawyer in the civil cases, Perrie Weiner, says that the suits against Badian have "not a shred of merit" and that courts have consistently dismissed such cases.
After high-profile alleged frauds like Refco's and another this summer at hedge fund Bayou Management, where managers shut down the firm without notice, the call for strict oversight is growing. Largely unregulated investment pools for institutions and the wealthy, hedge funds make big bets--up or down--on stocks, bonds, commodities and currencies. Officials are investigating trading records at 35 institutions as part of their probe into naked short selling. And starting in February, hedge-fund advisers must register with the SEC.
Usually the victims of hedge-fund excesses are their rich customers, who lose when the hedge fund makes a bad bet. But through naked short selling, hedge funds can stir up trouble for any publicly traded firm. In the case of Pet Quarters, the suit alleges that Badian's hedge fund lent the firm sorely needed operating capital on terms that allowed the hedge fund to convert the debt to shares at any time. Through naked short selling, Badian then pushed Pet Quarters stock from $4 to just pennies. Badian balanced his massive short selling with cheap shares obtained after he converted the loan to stock.
Meanwhile, with its stock sinking, Pet Quarters couldn't raise the funds it needed to keep operating, and shut down. CEO Steve Dempsey and an executive who had invested with him wound up filing for personal bankruptcy. "There was nothing wrong with our business," says Dempsey. "We fell prey to the perfect crime." Weiner counters that "most of these companies" that blame short sellers when their stock falls are financially "barely skating by."
SEC data show that such relatively big firms as Overstock.com and Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia have been targets too. Overstock CEO Patrick Byrne has launched a crusade against naked short selling, charging that an unnamed criminal "mastermind" is conspiring against his company. Byrne says the attacks have "put limits on the amount of capital we can raise, how fast we can grow and how many people we can employ." His company's stock, at $76 in January, has tumbled into the low $30s. Byrne filed an unfair-practices suit in August against Rocker Partners, which specializes in short selling. Rocker says the suit is "frivolous" and blames Overstock's disappointing results for the stock slide.
But small companies are especially vulnerable because even modest trading can move the stock. Naked short selling "has got to push the price down," says James Angel, associate professor of finance at Georgetown University. He says the rate of short selling has nearly doubled in the past five years, to 36% of all trades. In the same period, assets held in hedge funds, which are active short sellers, more than doubled, to more than $1 trillion.
Illegal naked short selling, according to Robert Shapiro, a former Under Secretary of Commerce, has cost investors $100 billion and driven 1,000 companies into the ground. Shapiro is on O'Quinn's legal team, which has brought 16 cases against hedge funds and other traders. For their part, the hedge funds say that they have done nothing illegal, that the stocks they sell short ultimately drop because the companies are not doing well.
Papers filed in the Sedona case offer a rare glimpse into the cut-throat nature of naked short selling. Federal prosecutors, in a case that remains open against Thomas Badian but has been dropped against his brother Andreas, charge in the complaint that Andreas ordered brokers to sell Sedona shares short with "unbridled levels of aggression." After the stock had "collapsed," according to the complaint, he congratulated the brokers on a "good job" and instructed them to be "merciless" in selling the stock a day later.
Around that time, Thomas Badian was living the high life. Registered in his name was a two-seat 1998 Aston Martin. "He told me he liked to put the top down and take a long drive," recalls Pet Quarters' Dempsey. "I asked him if he'd like to drive out to Humboldt [Pa.] to take a look at our distribution center. For a guy who had just loaned us money, he seemed strangely detached. He never did make the drive." He had other plans for Pet Quarters. Just not the ones Dempsey had imagined.
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well my order is still in at .0005, but if i have to sell at .0004 and take an even BIGGER loss so be it...i would be losing money by waiting to sell at .0005 then selling at .0004 and using less money to buy into GZFX. i really believe that GZFX will hit .10 by christmas. that is some good money. that stock is ALIVE....i was thinking about it today at lunch....and all i kept asking myself was....how on earth is QBID going to move UP in PPS with 60 BILLION A/S 50 O/S without a R/S?
today im dumping all my stocks that have no movement and high OS and will never buy another company with over 1 maybe 2 billion OS its just not worth it. people say...oh oh look at microsoft with 40 billion ....yeah well its MICROSOFT for crying out loud! LMAO
anyhow good luck to everyone. im still going to follow Q, but if GZFX continues a 10-20% daily increase in PPS i will keep my money in it until i see changes coming, because time is money and QBID has cost me dearly. not to mention ....the manmagement has made me feel like i cant trust them.
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quote:Originally posted by sidhartha: gawd, I hope not, These are good sound posters from IHUB:
Posted by: malebaboon In reply to: None Date:11/28/2005 1:16:13 PM Post #of 190835
My honest opinion -
is that we have toxic debt here. Its the only scenario that could fit all the known facts and behaviors of this stock. It could be a combination of others, but I subscribe to Occam's Razor (paraphrased) "the simplest solution must be assumed true unless proven false".
I think the 'funding through 2008' is a deal Frank signed with 'investment bankers' similar to those outlined in the Time article. Its why he needs to raise the AS and why he concoted this 'restricted shares for movie library deal' as a cover for the truth. Whoever is selling here has no regard for the share price - even in the face of improving prospects for the network. So, if this is authentic selling volume, the seller is only interested in cash and basically has an unlimited number of shares to sell.
Frank also fits that bill - but I don't think it's him (directly) because the cable companies wouldn't be signing on unless there was some relative guarantee of funding for Q. Frank couldn't satisfy them with "look, I'll just sell shares ad infinitum to fund your requirements". But a signed contract to provide funding would satisfy them. The end result is the same - run the presses.
There are other possibilities but, unfortunately, the above scenario fits all the observable facts.
The only hope, IMO, is that Frank will close the gap between expenses and income in the near future, and the 'funding' can stop or slow considerably.
MB
what you said faLLs in line and fits the biLL. about two years ago WiLLy Wizard was promoting this stock and did up until the big run then he totaLLy turned on it saying that Frank singed and deal for financing that was Death Spiral Funding or Toxic financing and that that he would never stand by or promote the company while that went on. If anyone knows about these types of financing the stock is truely acting like a stock that has bEEn funded that way
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Posted by: malebaboon In reply to: None Date:11/28/2005 1:16:13 PM Post #of 190835
My honest opinion -
is that we have toxic debt here. Its the only scenario that could fit all the known facts and behaviors of this stock. It could be a combination of others, but I subscribe to Occam's Razor (paraphrased) "the simplest solution must be assumed true unless proven false".
I think the 'funding through 2008' is a deal Frank signed with 'investment bankers' similar to those outlined in the Time article. Its why he needs to raise the AS and why he concoted this 'restricted shares for movie library deal' as a cover for the truth. Whoever is selling here has no regard for the share price - even in the face of improving prospects for the network. So, if this is authentic selling volume, the seller is only interested in cash and basically has an unlimited number of shares to sell.
Frank also fits that bill - but I don't think it's him (directly) because the cable companies wouldn't be signing on unless there was some relative guarantee of funding for Q. Frank couldn't satisfy them with "look, I'll just sell shares ad infinitum to fund your requirements". But a signed contract to provide funding would satisfy them. The end result is the same - run the presses.
There are other possibilities but, unfortunately, the above scenario fits all the observable facts.
The only hope, IMO, is that Frank will close the gap between expenses and income in the near future, and the 'funding' can stop or slow considerably.
MB
what you said faLLs in line and fits the biLL. about two years ago WiLLy Wizard was promoting this stock and did up until the big run then he totaLLy turned on it saying that Frank singed and deal for financing that was Death Spiral Funding or Toxic financing and that that he would never stand by or promote the company while that went on. If anyone knows about these types of financing the stock is truely acting like a stock that has bEEn funded that way
This is begining to look like the Cornell CD financing agreements.... Instead of agreeing to a fixed # of restricted shares, they agree to convert the debt to shares at a deeply discounted (60%) pps based on last couple days avg lows...
So, if the financier is converting the shares at an avg pps of .0005, that means they are buying them at .0003 and selling them at .0004 -.0005 for a nice profit! It also explains why the O/S has grown, and the A/S would need to be raised to cover the issuance of huge numbers of shares!
Has anyone here verified the financing agreements???
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oh well thats just great...score one for the investors!
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I keep asking myself this question: When Frankie signs a deal with a carrier is the agreement as Triangle Multi Media, Inc or is it Q Television Network? I don't think any carrier would want to do business with "Pinky" with 60B O/S. Therefore, I think Frankie is taughting his deals as Q Television Network. If you read the carrier deal PRs, its always QTN this and QTN that... it is never Triangle Multi Media signs carrier deal, blah, blah. Is that why QTN is registered in Nevada with 75,000 authorized shares? This is starting to smell fishy. Also, in the 10/31/05 shareholder letter Frankie also talks about QTN Audit and QTN that, with the exception when he specifically mentions breakdown of assests between QTN and TMM. IMO when Frankie sells, the shareholder holdings will probaly only be a fraction if any of what he sells it for. BTW, Frankie, where THE HELL is the audit!?
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I apologize, but total speculation brings me to post this again imho....
quote:Originally posted by QBID'n: [QUOTE]
I just find it funny when some people come and go on this board because when they come, they talk of selling and/or throwing Franks efforts into the wind. But they are doing it for all the wrong reasons (FEAR OF SPECULATION) in my view. Frank may be many things to many people, but to me he is the mule that pulls the plow. He is doing what he has to do to build Q, and yet sadly enough, he continues to infuriate some investors who are impatient and blinded by emotion and instant greed. jmho
Pi$$ on speculation!....just be patient guys.
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This is begining to look like the Cornell CD financing agreements.... Instead of agreeing to a fixed # of restricted shares, they agree to convert the debt to shares at a deeply discounted (60%) pps based on last couple days avg lows...
So, if the financier is converting the shares at an avg pps of .0005, that means they are buying them at .0003 and selling them at .0004 -.0005 for a nice profit! It also explains why the O/S has grown, and the A/S would need to be raised to cover the issuance of huge numbers of shares!
Has anyone here verified the financing agreements??? [/QB][/QUOTE]
If this is the case, the financier has opted to convert their debt to shares and dump them for cash? I'm trying to see a silver lining and its tough but should this be the case, the debt load would be reduced?
I can't see how this would be a positive for the stock given all the latest press.
-------------------- It's choice - not chance - that determines your destiny. Posts: 350 | From: Portland, Oregon | Registered: Jan 2005
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...in the mid-1990s, PIPE deals were primarily opportunistic financings for small and/or distressed high-growth companies, typically structured with floating conversion prices known as “death spiral” transactions.
good luck to us all....
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wow its getting pretty gloomy in here. im guessing that we must be close to a bottom as when i hear of long time investors dumping shares to me that means we have lost alot of investor confidance.
i am a wrecklace pumper so dont beleive anything i say but i think we are near the bottom just based on the fact qbid is deeply hated by many now. i personally cannot sell my shares as i am way way way too deep in the whole to sell now, but it appears to me that many are dumping and running now.
i hear alot of talk about gzfx the charts look good but i just want to cuation anyone who is thinking of going into that that the stock is up approx. 1000% already. it can go much higher but i would be thinking of waiting for a good dip before i jumped in onto something that is up so big already. just my ignorant humble opinions good luck to you all.
sincerely a long and strong qbidiot.
no mm manipulation wind can shake this little tree. im in for the long haul i just hope that frank does us real true longs right one day.
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