posted
Can we all help the new guys and experienced as to who they are and where they are posting, usually a good thing, most of them are paid (correct) or know something to scare investors to sell I'll start USF11...has been on WHLI thread GLTA(good luck to all)
-------------------- EVERY Day ABOVE GROUND is a GREAT DAY!!! Posts: 2086 | From: Long Island New York | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Depending on the stock......ME !!! Too many lies are told by penny companies. If you catch em, you bash em.
-------------------- If I give you bad information, please feel free to sue me. I have nothing left anyway. Ed Posts: 1772 | From: Oxford, PA, USA | Registered: Oct 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
I'm Definately a basher of a stock like WHLI that has 6 reverse spilts in 3 years and nearly doubles the OS in a week.
Posts: 720 | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
sorry, usf, lol--didn't mean to speak for you. Guess I shoulda said, "he's no PAID basher"
For newbies, maybe we should distinguish between paid bashers (hired by firms to post on message boards and create Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, in order to drive pps of a stock downward) and folks that get called "bashers" just because they react to on-board pumpers who are often running a scam like a group pick (which runs up--usually real quick--but falls when the group dumps their front-loaded shares).
posted
Most of us are not paid, we're just trying to propagate the truth about pennies and share what DD we can find. If it saves somebody $1000 or so, then its worth taking the heat for it. Nobody should buy ANY stock without doing an in-depth study of the stock. Even then, we get screwed sometimes because the companies lie and put out screwy PRs. IMO, if you want to get rich, start young and buy dividend stocks like Reits and banking stocks. It'll take longer, but you have much better chance of making it. GLTA !!!
-------------------- If I give you bad information, please feel free to sue me. I have nothing left anyway. Ed Posts: 1772 | From: Oxford, PA, USA | Registered: Oct 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
lol, funny chit happens: "cold" has become the "mascot basher" over on PLNI, going on and on about it falling to 8s or 9s so he can get *his order filled*! PLNIers love for him to show up: they say as soon as he starts bashing, the pps goes up! pretty funny...
posted
Pumpers of awful stocks like WHLI which has screwed alot of money out of investors in the past are a worse problem then bashers.
Posts: 720 | Registered: May 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
to me? I like seeing a real pro basher show up on a good stock--it's like another "indicator" to me. You never see a pro basher on a bad stock...
On a runner? doesn't really matter--if it's running, you better have your finger hovering over the "sell button," anyway.
The scamsters have called me everything from pumper to basher to cheerleader for K-train...as if he needs one, lol
But, you're right, USF, where most of us jump into the fray is when the scam-pumpers are recruiting...but, really, that ain't bashing. That's simply telling folks we see a grope in the making. If that means I'm drinking Basher Kool-Aid, why then, make mine a double...
Clyde no basher, so if he says something bad about a stock you probably should listen. There are alot of stocks on this board that are being pumped to hard and drawing in newbies that don't realize how to play pennies. I can still remember all those hurt by prrm, cmkx, mlon, ican, cnes, wmni, tfct, and many others. Only to have nothing to show for it now. Because those that pumped the stock making promises of it going to a dollar. That this was the next Microsoft.
IMO, there has been more harm by pumpers then any so called basher on this board. Whats the worst thing that can happen if you bash a stock. Maybe a drop in price. If it really is a good stock then it will come back. Need to read the Dow theory for market movement. But if a pumper get you in on a P&D then you lose your investment for good.
You should be asking who are the paid pumpers on the board that are receiving free shares to pump a stock while the company dumps shares on your investment till its worthless. They are the real criminals.
And I surely don't mind giving advice on a stock that has something bad about it yet the board members are not telling it to the members. Like dilution. I hate dilution and it will ruin a stock yet people here will pump them to no end trying to convince new investor into the stock.
[ August 13, 2005, 18:20: Message edited by: Ric ]
-------------------- Invest with your brain not with your heart. Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
The only reason some people on ICMH don't like clyde is because he said when he sold, but then when the pps dropped back down, he bought back in. Clyde's not bashing, just informing...
-------------------- Making money... one penny at a time Posts: 240 | From: Deep in the Heart of Texas | Registered: Jul 2005
| IP: Logged |
I posted the fact that I sold so everyone in ICMH would know that the MM's were not buying. I had to sell at the bid and it took a long time. When a stock is hot the MM's will jump on a bid sell.
Because the bid was thin and the MM's were not buying, I took it as a very good sign that the pps was about to drop (and it did). I'm sure some read my post and knew what to do.
posted
ha, on bcit, the other day? Thursday I think, mm's were buying ABOVE the ask. Saw Glassman do that, too, on a test sell with gvrp, the last friday before the split...
a good thread has peeps willing to make test sells and then post it...
look, if you're playing 2-3 runners, you may not have *time* to post all your exits, but I think we generally agree: most of us "hard-core" are pretty upfront about we're doing. It just makes sense to be honest with each other...
posted
most bashers are not Paid Bashers...most Paid to be Bashers...it costs money to learn penny stocks .
-------------------- "keep your stick on the ice & your cup firmly in place" Posts: 3651 | From: Algonac, MI. 48001 | Registered: Jun 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Yea they about chewed Clyde up on ICMH...I think your cool Clyde. And for COLD??? We all love cold over at PLNI. He really is a good guy. I think he just likes to aggravate and frankly I like it when he shows up.
-------------------- It's only money..We'll make more tomorrow! Posts: 788 | From: Tx. | Registered: Jun 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
Are you guys kidding me. Maybe on allstocks most bashers bash to protect others, but have you guys visited RB lately. There are some serious (paid) bashers there for practically every stock, and they constitute about 90% of all bashing and about 70% of all posts. The Yahoo boards aren't all that clean either, but those are more like shorters of higher exchange stocks. Let's face it, when it concerns penny stocks, the MM's hate it when you hold on to your shares.
Posts: 1468 | Registered: Jul 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
Well I for one, like when cold shows up!! I just wish hed show up on more of my stocks. he does run the price UP!! LMAO!! Bet some on Qbid would damn sure love to see him. And curious if he showed up on UNQT, if Id be able to sell?
-------------------- Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Posts: 222 | From: Southaven, Ms. | Registered: May 2005
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: UTSAF2 Roadrunner Ghosty
My guess is that they are all the same person though.
QBID is either a scam or just very poor management, in either case the stock is too diluted to ever amount to anything. they put out a PR every two days and bagholders like you keep buying.
Posts: 824 | Registered: Oct 2004
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: UTSAF2 Roadrunner Ghosty
My guess is that they are all the same person though.
QBID is either a scam or just very poor management, in either case the stock is too diluted to ever amount to anything. they put out a PR every two days and bagholders like you keep buying.
Here we go again...
How do you know I keep buying? I haven't touched QBID since February. I have some shares just sitting there, but that's it. No need to worry for me though. I only have about $2,000 invested in it. Hey, if I lose it - oh well. I make enough money so it's not like I'll lose my shirt, lol. Anyway, I was just warning others that you are both a basher and a pumper.
Posts: 798 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2005
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Pennies to Dollars: UTSAF2 Roadrunner Ghosty
My guess is that they are all the same person though.
QBID is either a scam or just very poor management, in either case the stock is too diluted to ever amount to anything. they put out a PR every two days and bagholders like you keep buying.
Here we go again...
How do you know I keep buying? I haven't touched QBID since February. I have some shares just sitting there, but that's it. No need to worry for me though. I only have about $2,000 invested in it. Hey, if I lose it - oh well. I make enough money so it's not like I'll lose my shirt, lol. Anyway, I was just warning others that you are both a basher and a pumper.
if your referring to MSSI, everyone that got in MSSI should of made atleast a 50% gain on it, if not a 100%+ gain. i was averaged in at .027 and sold at .057 three months later. its at .041 now but, i havent posted about that stock since i sold, probably a few weeks before i sold. i know MSSI well and have been playing it since last november when it was in the .03s and ran to .098, im not in it right now but, if it dips below .035 again ill be loading up big time. get in and watch for third quarter earnings this november and you should make decent gains IMO.
Posts: 824 | Registered: Oct 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
I'm beginning to think roadrunnerv8383 and g-invest are the same person. LOL
Posts: 3243 | From: California | Registered: Jul 2005
| IP: Logged |
posted
We've really got two "definitions" working here:
What so many good, honest traders on this board react to are the scammy pumps that drain folks' capital, leave bagholders, etc. Posts that warn of "group picks"; CEOs with histories of ripping off shareholders; companies with patterns/cycles of dilution-r/s, dilution-r/s, etc: Make a post in this category and someone will probably call you a basher, especially "one of the gang" in a Pump-n-Dump. That's when we say, "OK, well, then I'm proud to bash" if it prevents newbies or the unsuspecting from getting burned.
But the real "basher" problem is systemic and a threat to good, new or smaller companies and, by extension, to the market. Thus, the threat is to not the individual trader but to the market...to the economy itself.
Here's a pretty good article from the CEO of Circle Group Holdings, Inc (AMEX: CXN):
posted
But too, part of the problem is blaming the shorters while holding the stock. Naked shorting is bad and hurting the market thats true. But does it really matter as far as an investment is concerned? The reason I say that is a smart investor sells a stock going down and buys one going up. No matter the reason, if a stock is on a downward trend then sell it. Buy one on a upward trend or at bottom. If it turns down, sell it and buy another. Because for every stock going down there is one going up. So why blame something you can't change, at least right away. Buy low and sell high and move on. Pennies are manipulated and you will never make money complaining about it. You make money using the manipulation to your advantage.
Manipulation happens on all kinds of levels in this market. Be it NSS, dilution, bashing, or pumping. Pennies are full of it. But sitting there saying that bashers only bash good stocks so I am buying more only makes your loses that much greater. Because everytime I hear that all I ever see is a continued downtrend. Everyone needs to stop blaming the cause and invest wisely. If you want to stop NSS or other forms of manipulation thats great. But don't hold the stock for loses while you do it.
-------------------- Invest with your brain not with your heart. Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
Agreed: with pennies, take profit and move on. Limit your losses and don't whine--find the next play.
What I'm reacting to, I suppose, is the school of thought that "bashers" are "better than" "pumpers." And I'm on board with that, too, especially as concerns class (1) in my preceding post. But pro bashers hurt the market/economy so as traders who enjoy the profit-opportunity of trading, we should insist that regs be followed even in pennyland...
For example what if most traders, after hours, would write one letter/e-mail 3 days a week: fight NSS, complain about selective enforcment, lobby Congress for more enforcement staff--whatever trips your trigger...
Enlightened self-interest: the more stocks going up, the more dough for us
(and less fleeing offshore)
But you're absolutely right, Ric--we should not let these market dysfunctions distract us from the opportunities that are out there...nearly everyday.
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic
![[Smile]](smile.gif)
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
