quote:Originally posted by joe_schmoe: Stock Jockey just to let you know my site is doing better then ever about 5 people join everyday and we still have money in the room. I just thought I come on allstock and post a play for you guys who love DD. I don't have to gain your trust but the bigger picture is two sites playing 1 play is better then 1 site playing 1 play. =)
You have a bunch of kids that can't spend more that $200 a play.
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My main point here is that 1) mo id'd himself this time, as least on this thread 2)has put in writing that he'll refrain from trashing the board, FoT's picks in particular 3) not take the argument between him and me to other threads.
I can live with that, *if* it comes to pass. lol, agreed that chances are slim based on the record. BUT if it does pan out where everything's out in the open, newbs are warned, and we can have less time on patrol...sounds OK. Not ideal, but OK...
BUT: we catch even *one* new alias, one dissin post, one attempt to fool peeps...gloves come off and we're back to square one...
That's my idea, anyway
Pros and cons? Chop, 'Claw, Hi, others? What do you guys think?
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Hey Jdog Did or did WHLI have a PR ? Well it did and thats what i placed my buy on i dident buy it cause it was a p&d or any other reason the stock was suppose to have news and i bought on the speculation of news if a group momo's or shakerz or anyone else was on it well they where on it not he reason why i was playing it though well in the end WHLI had a bunch of PR's though the stock did not go as high as i was hoping i got out with out losing alot because i started to see bad signs and it was a simple mistake and i learned my lesson and Jdog im sure you can understand that even when a stock has a PR if its to hype up in weeks advanced like WHLI was i mean peolple where in it well befour i got in then the stock could inturn go down in price i mean look at you and ICMH same concept you are in it for what the news and Pr's right? and the Price went down i was in WHLI for the PRs and well i ended up the same way so i took my losses and moved on and i hope ICMH comes back for you and everyone in it jdog but just because i was in that particular pick is no reason for you to make it seem like i was soliciting the stock I thought it was a good play and i was wrong you cant be right on all of them you know im sure momo issent fo2 issent no one is but alright enough B/sing i think based on the company information and based on a supposed Pr next week is why i got in on the stock and to make a lil green thats all good luck everyone who decides to get in .
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I hear what you are trying to say and it is understandable. But you have to understand that it is only natural for people to question you when you were promoting an obvious P&D. I don't hold bad picks against anyone, I've made my share. If the motivation for the pick is to fleece unsuspecting investors though, I'll have a problem with that. I'll trust your word that you were misled and we can leave it at that. FWIW I sold my ICMH.
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: funny post, partial quote:
quote:I hear what you are trying to say ...
jdog, besides your emerging charting skills, you got game on "listening". . .
lol....sometimes I may. My wife might beg to differ.
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Yeah sorry bout that Buytex after i hit addreply i read over the post and couldent beleave some of the spelling mistake and some of the sentences sorry bout that i was trying to watch the Redsox game and type the post at the same time and kept getting side tracked as they almost lost lol i apoligize for the hard to read post and will try to pay more attention to what i am typing and that it makes sense Well jdog best of luck to you in future investments and sorry to see that ICMH did not work out for you i hope you got out with a not so bad loss or no loss at all, and buytex for me asking that question about group plays , yeah i was interested in getting and finding more information out about them and thats why and how i signed up for the Bestpicksrus news letter it helps to keep me on top of there plays and if it looks like it may be a good stock because of news or PR then i will consider getting in but if it seems like a stock that has no backround no news potential and no bid or price support i will not get in , Ive made my fair share of money by playing swing trades and chart plays hell ive even jumped in on a few of momo's picks that he send out via email but as you can see those email picks arnt or dont seem to me to be actual "Group Picks" they seems to be Plays that may have potential room to run due to future company PR's or news its just like IGTN for example you had people saying get into that stock because news would be comming out etc it wassent a group pick or anything like that but people sayig to get in befour the news and so i did and made a good amount on it and cant complain , well i guesse what im getting to with this topic is that i am not an "Active" member over at mo's site i admitt i recieve his emails but not to do harm to just stay on top and if the play looks to be a play that can move i will advise the board here at all stocks and heck if people want to come in they will if not hey no worrys im not going to jump down peoples throat saying there picks suck etc etc but i would hope people would also do the same for me if i find a pick that is suppose to have a PR or news or charts look good wether or not Mo or someone says its a good pick should have no effect on the play its self but hey just my opinion on that subject well guys its getting late so im heading off to bed everyone have a nice labor day and stay safe cya all on tuesday
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Buy Tex... If you made this deal then I'm with you...My personal opinion is if Momo's back is to the wall he'll screw the deal. I don't trust him. but...I'm willing to give him a try...your agreement covers all that concerns me...good luck buddy...
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: StockJockey,
lol, I hear you, man.
My main point here is that 1) mo id'd himself this time, as least on this thread 2)has put in writing that he'll refrain from trashing the board, FoT's picks in particular 3) not take the argument between him and me to other threads.
I can live with that, *if* it comes to pass. lol, agreed that chances are slim based on the record. BUT if it does pan out where everything's out in the open, newbs are warned, and we can have less time on patrol...sounds OK. Not ideal, but OK...
BUT: we catch even *one* new alias, one dissin post, one attempt to fool peeps...gloves come off and we're back to square one...
That's my idea, anyway
Pros and cons? Chop, 'Claw, Hi, others? What do you guys think?
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but, I haven't "made a deal": if a "deal" comes to pass, imo, it is being made by the responses in this thread...I guess I started the ball rolling, but would like to have as close to consensus as we can achieve. I want the best Allstocks board we can have; we have a much wider audience than the regular posters, wider even than the registered members. Some like the group gropes; very few like the hostilities; doubt anyone likes having threads disrupted, especially during trading...
I had the feeling you were ready to make the deal of the month...now I'm hearing your not ready yet??? I know you realize this is someone who has hurt a lot of newbies with absolutely no remorse...He's a real smart con and uses all the tricks...He feels he's entitled to behave as he chooses and doesn't see the damage he has done...or...if he does see it then he doesn't give a sheet...one or the other...
He has lied throughout his irritating activities to get what he wanted. I'm under the impression that you think that will change...It's your play Tex...I think it's a decision you need to make...Just wondering if you are in the saving and redemption mood these days???? Not sure why you've made this decision?
Some folks just can't change...Maybe it's just a new approach/con to build his site up? I understand no one wants near him...Just the same small crew. Or maybe Momo had a spiritual awakening...
If your wrong don't forget all the work it took for a lot of folks...to keep him off this site...may have to do it all over again...it was no fun for me...how about you? I lost a good new friend beetch slapping Momo and watched newbies leave AllStocks as a result...
You're call buddy...but I sure would run it by the site moderator...Bob spent many hours chasing him too? You probably need his OK....if not he may see you as part of the Momo problem...
Don't forget Momo's primary motive is always about having the light shine on HIM... always....and the money is second...I know you know all this...just putting it in black and white for you as a reminder... Good luck buddy...let me know what you decide...
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Roger that, 'Claw. risky play...
but, I haven't "made a deal": if a "deal" comes to pass, imo, it is being made by the responses in this thread...I guess I started the ball rolling, but would like to have as close to consensus as we can achieve. I want the best Allstocks board we can have; we have a much wider audience than the regular posters, wider even than the registered members. Some like the group gropes; very few like the hostilities; doubt anyone likes having threads disrupted, especially during trading...
will it work? I dunno...
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'claw, I'm just saying I don't/won't operate in a vacuum. I can't unilaterally speak for the board, although it was in response to me that Mo agreed to quit bashing FoT and stop disrupting threads and so forth.
In other words, "an agreement" with me by myself means nothing, board-wise. Bob? Have not discussed it with him, but I suspect if he didn't have to monitor and delete aliases and respond to beleagured thread-folk, he wouldn't mind as long as disclaimers/warning, etc were in place.
As you noted, "I lost a good new friend beetch slapping Momo and watched newbies leave AllStocks as a result..." A compromise would end that...
Also re Bob: "if not he may see you as part of the Momo problem..." On this part, I'm sure; my loyalty is to the board, period. Highly doubt that's in question...
lol, No, sir, I have no illusions about "redemption." Just trying to effect a practical solution to a big drain on the board's talent and DD resources.
Also, disagree with this: "I understand no one wants near him" This thread demonstrates that people other than his members will play his picks...
As is, he recruits here anyway... some get disgruntled and leave, some get ashamed and leave once they understand the ramifications, some simply decide to learn to trade for themselves. But the fact is, some are always drawn to the lure of easy money, and this is an open board with no way to stop multi-aliases.
As is, big distraction.
As is, waste of resources.
Look, I'm not wild about about it...but I want to try something...
Put it this way, maybe the alternative is a paid site. Is that what we want? That would cut down on multi-aliases, I would think...
Maybe I should just quit posting and let this thread run its course. I've said all I know to say. I love this board and all the great folks who have taken time to help--not just me, but so many new traders, and each other as well.
If others agree with you that it's my call, then I say let this thread stand and see how it plays out.
For the time being, will monitor only...
Whatever happens, I appreciate you, Bearclaw. I know you feel much as I do about AS...you're solid as a rock...
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BuyTex... OK...I trust you, your solid too...will follow your lead and just monitor...You made some great points...Might want to give Bob a heads up as to what your doing...Hate to have your intentions misunderstood...glad your here...
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Hey guys i just got this from MOMO, he said to post it here i read it over and dossent seem like something that will offend any one so take your thoughts on it . But please dont relate this back to me is all that i ask if you wish i dont post his emails that he sends me please let me know now and i wont. thanks guys
Hey do me a fav and post this on allstcosk for me please...
Momo said: Hello to bearclaw and glad to see yo uare willin to give me a chance without saying harsh things about me. What I am here on allstocks to do is prove publicly that what i do is to only help people make money and not steal it from them like I have been blamed of doing. If you like at this stock so far it did not but go up since I bought it. So of you are in this along with me and some of my group members... Chances are if people can hold there postions and wait for the new wave of volume to come in we will all make money. The only thing i do is call plays. How people trade them is all on the indiviual. If the stock drops Tuesday morning I will expect to see bashing but all I have done was say XYZ is going to be hot for next week. People seem to believe i can control how people play the stocks I CALL but that's not he case. BXTTR was a hit because my 10 private members got in the day before. Pumped it here and you guys got in as we sold out on the ASK price. It's a very simple process if done correctly. People look at a 1,000% play and say "Only the people who got in first made money but that isn't the case" If a play runs from .01 to .10 that's 1,000% correct? Which means even if someone bought at .05 they still made 100% if they sold at .10 My group plays are well organized and some of them work very well and others don't because of the scalpers issue. If a stock has demand why the hell would you hit the bid? Sell into the ask because for one you get out at hte highest possible price at that time and you also do not hurt those who either just got in or who are waiting to get out at a higher price. People look at me and say I am felon but unless you understand what I'm doing how can you judge me. It's only a select few who dislike me and you have other's who see the bashing of my name and add to it even though they never took part in any of my plays. So as I said the bashing stops here. Since the respected members can not produce with plays that yeild profit for those who invest *I* will step in and do what I did with BXTRR and WAVAP on this very board. I mean hell My name was made on this board so I consider this my home in which I am not liked. That's why I keep coming back. So if bob frey will allow me to get work done and you can keep the bashers at bay I will show all of you % change you only saw when a MM had a fat finger on your stocks... Oh by the way I forgot the password to the new account i made so that's why i e-mailed firefighter this letter to post on the site.
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Momo...or Firefighter...please pass this on...
I respect BuyTex...a good guy...he feels this may be important...He wants me to watch what's going on...I will do what he asks...
However, I am one of many here that followed your plays and invested my cash...and got fried/burned... along with many others...we know the routine...we absolutely know your motives... This is not about a select few...don't misunderstand these are long time AS people.
If you want in here I suggest you do what BuyTex has discussed with you... bring some integrity, some honesty...quit the me me me sheet...no one but you cares about what you think your name means...BuyTex is talking about a fresh start for you and consolidating your group...Leave the me me me me stuff at the door or you'll be out it...if you don't have the integrity with you then go find some...
I hope I'm clear...This is not about supporting you...it's about supporting BuyTex...
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won't have folks hanging on the line at trading time...
is this a real deal? You got my e-mail through Firewhatever: will *not* have this language:
quote:"Since the respected members can not produce with plays that yeild profit for those who invest *I* will step in and do what I did with BXTRR and WAVAP on this very board."
You know i can produce the e-mail...
in it, I explained to your messenger that I would see your answer on the board.
Yet, that answer is not here--and da bell is approaching.
I lived up to my part of the bargain as far as only monitoring since my most recent post on this thread.
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BuyTex... Not sure what happened...but if the deals off then we're back to normal...I know your attempt for a reasonable agreement with Momo was on the up and up for your part...Nice effort...
My guess is he's really hurting for members and wants to recruit some more...his name is really sheet around the boards...but...agreeing to simple behaviors of integrity and honesty must have been to much for little Mumu...
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: okayyy,
now after midnight.
no deal...
I'm done.
watch your back, folks.
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Morning everyone. Lets see how she does today. We spent all the weekend talking about me and nothing about the stock. Can we focus now please?
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quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: BuyTex... Not sure what happened...but if the deals off then we're back to normal...I know your attempt for a reasonable agreement with Momo was on the up and up for your part...Nice effort...
My guess is he's really hurting for members and wants to recruit some more...his name is really sheet around the boards...but...agreeing to simple behaviors of integrity and honesty must have been to much for little Mumu...
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: okayyy,
now after midnight.
no deal...
I'm done.
watch your back, folks.
Bearclaw as always your *guess* is wrong. You did it on CNES and now you are doing it again here. My advice is you warn everyone about me s you always do and leave this thread in peace. I seriously don't want to start a war with you now after the promise I made to the BOARD. If you can't just sit down and watch then create your own thread and do some dd BECAUSE you aren't doing it here. So I am trying to keep it professional and I am asking you to be please reframe from posting under me. All your *guess* much like the ones you posted on CNES were false and inaccurate.
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Momo... Why did you back out of the deal with ButTex? You had a chance..??? He gave you a golden opportunity...Was it because he required you behave with honesty and integrity? Was that just too much to ask of you?
Oh...I don't need or ask for advice from you on anything...Just need to support Buy Tex's warning to everyone to stay far away from you...
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quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Momo... Why did you back out of the deal with ButTex? You had a chance..??? He gave you a golden opportunity...Was it because he required you behave with honesty and integrity? Was that just too much to ask of you?
Oh...I don't need or ask for advice from you on anything...Just need to support Buy Tex's warning to everyone to stay far away from you...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ if you have questions ask it over PM. I will not address your kiddy comments on the board. Not to mention I have a life and family and that's why I wasnt on the board this weekend.
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Walt... Of course you are...This is your second post...You just signed up on AS...Did you just come in from Momo's private site? Why don't you take his scams over there and keep off AS? Don't need the Wizard of Mumu here or his cronies...
quote:Originally posted by Walt_Jockety: please, take this somewhere else bearclaw, i am trying to make money
p.s. I PUT ALL MONEY ON THE CARDINALS
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I knew you wouldn't answer why you backed out of the deal...Fourflusher...Your family has my deepest condolences...Wonder what the visiting hours are in jail? Watch for Elliot Ness and the Feds...they're in your neighborhood Mumu...
quote:Originally posted by joe_schmoe:
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Momo... Why did you back out of the deal with ButTex? You had a chance..??? He gave you a golden opportunity...Was it because he required you behave with honesty and integrity? Was that just too much to ask of you?
Oh...I don't need or ask for advice from you on anything...Just need to support Buy Tex's warning to everyone to stay far away from you...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ if you have questions ask it over PM. I will not address your kiddy comments on the board. Not to mention I have a life and family and that's why I wasnt on the board this weekend.
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I knew you wouldn't answer why you backed out of the deal...Fourflusher...Your family has my deepest condolences...Wonmder what the visiting hours are in jail? Watch for Elliot Ness and the Feds...they're in your neighborhood Mumu...
quote:Originally posted by joe_schmoe:
quote:Originally posted by Bearclaw: Momo... Why did you back out of the deal with ButTex? You had a chance..??? He gave you a golden opportunity...Was it because he required you behave with honesty and integrity? Was that just too much to ask of you?
Oh...I don't need or ask for advice from you on anything...Just need to support Buy Tex's warning to everyone to stay far away from you...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ if you have questions ask it over PM. I will not address your kiddy comments on the board. Not to mention I have a life and family and that's why I wasnt on the board this weekend.
I am guessing that's your responce for me to answer you back and get on your case so you can run to bob frey and get me banned. It's not going to happen old chap. I will just ignore you let you run your mouth. That's the only thing that seems to run to bad CNES can't run as fast as your mouth does.
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i came to this site to make money bearclaw, i didnt come here to be ridiculed by you or anyone else! If you have a problem with making money . . . i think you are on the wrong post! the only reason i signed up for this forum is to make money, not to argue with ur sorry a$$ or watch you argue with someone i could care less for! And i have been watching this site for awhile, but if you are the ruler of AS, then all you have to do is tell me to leave, and i will take my money elsewhere! Thank you and have a good day!!!!
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Folks... Look at the charts...Mumu and his cronies front loaded on Friday...They are looking for suckers to unload on...Read this thread...BuyTex tried hard to get this weasel to agree to some simple behavior...Mumu reneged on the deal with BuyTex..
This is a Momo pump and dump...stay clear...and good luck...
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quote:Originally posted by Walt_Jockety: i came to this site to make money bearclaw, i didnt come here to be ridiculed by you or anyone else! If you have a problem with making money . . . i think you are on the wrong post! the only reason i signed up for this forum is to make money, not to argue with ur sorry a$$ or watch you argue with someone i could care less for! And i have been watching this site for awhile, but if you are the ruler of AS, then all you have to do is tell me to leave, and i will take my money elsewhere! Thank you and have a good day!!!!
Walt he seriously has a problem with *making money* you see he lost everything on CNES and he clamied to have lost money on one of the 3 plays i posted on here awhile back. Also Bearclaw I didn't post on this today. I posted it here first even sent the e-mails out when the PPS was .0055/.006 which means everyone got in when i did. Even F02 made money on it. Bearclaw I know you can not be banned from this site but can you just be the bigger Bagholder and just stay off the post. I mean you start all of these fights then run to the Admin to get me banned. Why not for once you just stay away just as people are staying away from CNES...
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quote:Originally posted by Walt_Jockety: i came to this site to make money bearclaw, i didnt come here to be ridiculed by you or anyone else! If you have a problem with making money . . . i think you are on the wrong post! the only reason i signed up for this forum is to make money, not to argue with ur sorry a$$ or watch you argue with someone i could care less for! And i have been watching this site for awhile, but if you are the ruler of AS, then all you have to do is tell me to leave, and i will take my money elsewhere! Thank you and have a good day!!!!
Please do not respond to this guy. Let him talk to himself. The people who were here on friday know that i posted this very early with 0 volume. Just let him have his temper out brust and maybe he will go away. In he meantime lets focus on this play..
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