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lilpennypincher
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Bob might lock or delete this I don't know......Just need to vent on the lazy freeriders that lose money off of chasing everyone else's DD and then don't sell at a high.

I can tell you all. I sit at night researching companies....charts, sec. filing's, calling CEO's etc......just to get DD on compaines....
I do my homework.
I post the one's I like.
I put my DD in the thread......I give all the information I can find....
Just to have some......not even read it (apparently) and just buy because some others seem to buy......
No knowing what exit point I have or anyone else and just sit and hold the bag.......watch it go up and come back down without getting out and then......have the nerve to call me a pumper....When I'm the one that did all of the research.....LEARN TO DO DD ON YOUR OWN AND STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR LOSSES!!!!!

I have seen a lot of great posters being accused of pumping.........of course we all want our stocks to go up and cheer when they do......

I've seen it happen to Some names that you all would'nt even know as we have lost them.
But here are some...

RealityInc.....does not post as much as I would like to see....
Fatheroftwo.....
Me...
clydecrashcup........and a lot more.

Now for the one's that complain about us pumping and don't bring any DD to the table.........LEARN TO DO YOUR OWN DD......
Read what we post in the beginning of our posts.....WE POST GOOD INFO........make your own decisions to buy and sell.......If you don't want to buy then pass us up.

AND I KNOW ALL OF THE ABOVE NAMES ALWAYS POST GOOD DD WIHT EVERY POST!!!!!!!
CHECK ON THEM!!

Sorry........some schmucks got me on a bad day....

Good day all and make Bank!

[ April 20, 2005, 14:31: Message edited by: Bob Frey ]

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WOW! lots of typo's but, you get it....

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Dont LOSE more than you can afford to invest....LOL

I'm buying low and selling into the run...

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I agree with you 100%, I lost my ass this week becasue I got lazy and greedy and relied on others way too much and got burned for it. I could have made money on every trade this week but I was stupid. I have no one else to blame but myself. I do have a list of posters whose picks immediately go on my watch list. Lil and others like you I hope you never stop posting. And to quote the great FORREST GUMP, "That's all I have to say about that."

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Lil...

You forgot DaDog........

By far, I have the absolute most respect for him! I learned so much, I wish I could buy him a beer and say cheers and Thanks!

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Vent away, I was just thinking about how much I missed Diane myself. I hate how some of the best get attacked.

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Hey, I appreciate your DD, lilpennypincher, tho I don't think I've bought any of the stocks myself... [Big Grin]

Maybe one day I will, then I also can blame you for my losses [Big Grin] (jk). Seriously, I appreciate those of you who do DD, as otherwise I would not learn about half of the stocks out there. After reading your DD I go do my own.

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You can also see the lazy in some of the new stock picks on the board. I do less then 5 minutes of dd and see they are a scam and people talked about it for two pages. If you don't do your own research then you have know right to complain.

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Lil...
Bob won't delete it. I rarely play runners anymore but your post was well said. I sure hope you felt better after. AS is just having a personality crisis ...Folks will chill soon...
Your right about the folks you mentioned. We both know there are more who are no longer here...
Keep up the good fight girl...

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quote:
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You can also see the lazy in some of the new stock picks on the board. I do less then 5 minutes of dd and see they are a scam and people talked about it for two pages. If you don't do your own research then you have know right to complain.

I know what you are talking about, but hey, I'm in for only 400.00

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Heres some resources to help newbies out. Use it to make up your own mind and not blame it on others.

DD for otcbb and pinksheets

How do you get your DD. What sites do you use? Where do you learn how to read charts? Here is some of my favorite places to research for the best due diligence. I like doing DD and finding new places to look.

Try these two DD tools to be quick and good with your facts. At pinksheets in a matter of seconds under Company Info I can give you o/s, any r/s, company name changes, or planned changes and more. Quotetracker is a program you install on your computer. I wouldn't survive without it in a quick paced market. Tons of TA and FA with dd. Shoot pinksheets is my homepage on Firefox browser for quick reference. This is the first two places I go for fast due diligence.

www.pinksheets.com {Company Info tab is loaded with information} {SEC Filing Tab - wow} {News Tab - Pr's at your finger tips}

www.quotetracker.com - after you set it up add a symbol quickly then charts, news, research, and raw data at your finger tips. Great charts.

DD is mainly knowing where to go.


FA – Fundamental Analysis

www.pinksheets.com - first place to look!!!! Go to Company info for o/s. r/s, name changes, and many other facts. Go to SEC tab to look for filings. News tabs for latest news that may not show up through normal wire service.

http://www2.barchart.com after you enter stock symbol select opinion to see trend spotter

www.otcbbtrader.com – otcbb loser/winner by volume, price, shares, transaction, and more

http://www.otcbbtrader.com/portal/n_letter/gen/Microcap_Recap_Report.html - otcbb market recap on otcbb and pinksheet market for the day

www.otcbb.com – otcbb news

www.smallcapcenter.com – otcbb resources

http://smallcapcenter.com/tools_QuickSearch.asp?page=QUICKSEARCH.ASP - free filter

http://our-street.com/home.htm - list of scam companies

www.sec.gov – latest filings, litigations, proceedings, or suspensions


TA – Technical Analysis

www.stockcharts.com – charting web site

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com – charting web site

http://www.iqcharts.com/education - TA, candlesticks, chart patterns education

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis - teaches chart analysis

http://www.transitionstrading.com/Chart_Studies.htm - teaching about charts

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/MarketAnalysis/dowtheory1.html - theory of market movement

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/TradingStrategies/ - well known trading strategies


Recovering a Loss

Loss - Gain Needed to Recover Loss

10% -- 11.1%

20% -- 25.0%

30% -- 42.9%

40% -- 66.7%

50% - 100.0%

60% - 150.0%

75% - 300.0%

90% - 1000.0%

Timing your entry and exit from the market is critical to making money and controlling losses.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ric:
Heres some resources to help newbies out. Use it to make up your own mind and not blame it on others.

DD for otcbb and pinksheets

How do you get your DD. What sites do you use? Where do you learn how to read charts? Here is some of my favorite places to research for the best due diligence. I like doing DD and finding new places to look.

Try these two DD tools to be quick and good with your facts. At pinksheets in a matter of seconds under Company Info I can give you o/s, any r/s, company name changes, or planned changes and more. Quotetracker is a program you install on your computer. I wouldn't survive without it in a quick paced market. Tons of TA and FA with dd. Shoot pinksheets is my homepage on Firefox browser for quick reference. This is the first two places I go for fast due diligence.

www.pinksheets.com {Company Info tab is loaded with information} {SEC Filing Tab - wow} {News Tab - Pr's at your finger tips}

www.quotetracker.com - after you set it up add a symbol quickly then charts, news, research, and raw data at your finger tips. Great charts.

DD is mainly knowing where to go.


FA – Fundamental Analysis

www.pinksheets.com - first place to look!!!! Go to Company info for o/s. r/s, name changes, and many other facts. Go to SEC tab to look for filings. News tabs for latest news that may not show up through normal wire service.

http://www2.barchart.com after you enter stock symbol select opinion to see trend spotter

www.otcbbtrader.com – otcbb loser/winner by volume, price, shares, transaction, and more

http://www.otcbbtrader.com/portal/n_letter/gen/Microcap_Recap_Report.html - otcbb market recap on otcbb and pinksheet market for the day

www.otcbb.com – otcbb news

www.smallcapcenter.com – otcbb resources

http://smallcapcenter.com/tools_QuickSearch.asp?page=QUICKSEARCH.ASP - free filter

http://our-street.com/home.htm - list of scam companies

www.sec.gov – latest filings, litigations, proceedings, or suspensions


TA – Technical Analysis

www.stockcharts.com – charting web site

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com – charting web site

http://www.iqcharts.com/education - TA, candlesticks, chart patterns education

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/ChartAnalysis - teaches chart analysis

http://www.transitionstrading.com/Chart_Studies.htm - teaching about charts

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/MarketAnalysis/dowtheory1.html - theory of market movement

http://www.stockcharts.com/education/TradingStrategies/ - well known trading strategies


Recovering a Loss

Loss - Gain Needed to Recover Loss

10% -- 11.1%

20% -- 25.0%

30% -- 42.9%

40% -- 66.7%

50% - 100.0%

60% - 150.0%

75% - 300.0%

90% - 1000.0%

Timing your entry and exit from the market is critical to making money and controlling losses.

AWESOME!! THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU

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Where did DaDog go off to???
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Good......and forgot about Dog,,,, sorry dog....we do miss you man...

My point is....the only way to make money in this market is to educate yourselve.....whether it's for day, swing or long trading.....You need to know what you are getting into.....I jump on moving trains at times.....but, I don't blame others or call them pumpers when it does not pan out! MY FINGERS HIT THE BUY AND SELL ON MY KEYBOARD AND MY KEYBOARD ALONE!!!!!If I post that it is going up......It's because I believe it will......I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL!!!!

And I agree with all of you.......so Far......

LOL

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Nice DD for the newbies Ric.....(((HUGS))) to you and your family.....

and thanks Kevin.

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Dont LOSE more than you can afford to invest....LOL

I'm buying low and selling into the run...

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"I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia.... Let them walk to school like I did!"

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He actually showed up last week and has posted some over on the Daytraders forum.

quote:
Originally posted by extant:
Where did DaDog go off to???



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Ok LIL, now my eyes are burnin' [Big Grin]

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Lil,

Zanax Girl---Take 2 bars.....Works for me and I trade better....lol Then I just don't give a &*(*&&. lol

Good post and thanks all for the compliments.

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LOL Diana and Glass.....Hey Glass, I was going to put your name up there as well as Ric's but...you guys are still postin'.

AND KEEP IT UP!!!!!

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LOL, you know i don't do it for fame (just fortune) [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Where did DaDog go off to???

Dardadog, has has some changes in his life, but he is slowly getting back to posting. I have had a few e-mails from him, he is doing well and no doubt will be back home (Allstocks) soon [Smile]

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I am new and do as much dd as time and limited education permits. lil, I agree with you. I am an adult and make my own choices to get in and out of plays I make. No one to blame but myself for loseing $$$$. If I make any I owe alot to people on this board. That said can't take the last couple of weeks losses to serious. The penny trade has at times done the complete opposite of what is expected, thanks MMs. Anyway I enjoy the posts and research my picks before buying.

Thanks lil, FOT, Ktrain and a host of others for education, humor and picks.

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Buy high, sell low thats what I do. ;-)
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THANKS LIL, AS SOMEONE NEW TO THE MARKET AND EAGER TO LEARN, IT IS GOOD TO HEAR YOUR POINT OF VIEW AND TO GET SOME GREAT SITES FROM RIC TO DO SOME GREAT DD. I ENJOY READING WHAT YOU PUT OUT THERE, AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS. NOW LETS GET THE MARKET BACK UP...

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For those looking for the right "Skills"... Napolean tells us everything we need to know:

"You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills"

-Napolean Dynamite

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL, you know i don't do it for fame (just fortune) [Big Grin]

zackley

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Well said Lil..........

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lil...without lazy freeloaders who would be left holding the bag???...lol

[Smile]

[ April 20, 2005, 14:38: Message edited by: Bob Frey ]

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bill

But if we could keep them quiet afterwards, oops did I say that out loud?

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LOL.......bill

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LOL, bill and Ric.......Sad.......LOL

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Dont LOSE more than you can afford to invest....LOL

I'm buying low and selling into the run...

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Might I also add, I'm a newbie and got possibly the best tip of all from KTrain, when he mentioned a book .... The Complete Idiots Guide to Day Trading Like A Pro .... seriously, if you are new to this, go to your library or bookstore and GET THIS BOOK!!

Even if you're not in it to daytrade, the book is worth it's weight in gold!

And additional "required reading" before jumping into the market - spend a week reading through the posts on AllStocks .... there's a lot of very smart traders here, and I for one am very glad I found this board.

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most of us get caught in 1 serious pos or another even with experiance or checking a company out. i was so pissed at missing 3 100%+ runs on WNHL i bought on what looked like a run set up by the mm's only to lose 80% but to sit in here & just buy on stocks posted takes something less then a moron...lol

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PC Doc 54.....Still keep it within' an arms reach.....One of the best books on trading IMHO!

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Lil,

Dont LOSE more than you can afford to invest....LOL

I'm buying low and selling into the run...

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get in get out! [Smile]

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Warning all posts by this person are considered to be false and not factual.

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Sounds like the book for me. Im a complete idiot and I play at day trading. Barnes $ Noble here I come.

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Buy high, sell low thats what I do. ;-)
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