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"P.S. It has been commonly agreed upon by the faithful that we will not use the word "basher" any longer. In respect of political correctness, bashers will now be referred to as "Negativity Pumpers".

Isn't that special!!!

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Would Ameritrade mind if Knight failed...


This is a lengthy repost, but it points out all of the investments of Ameritrade in Knight (NITE), the MM that they seem to be protecting and abetting of late, with their "ONE WAY" trading policy on CMKX. Just a few paragraphs will reveal the enormity and extent of the intertwining financial webs. All the above in my opinion.


By: nufced would Ameritrade mind if Knight failed...
25 Mar 2005, 10:10 AM EST
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would Ameritrade mind if Knight failed...I dare say YES>>
Ameritrade Holding Corp
466 Filings · The Word “knight” in Selected Filings
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2/08/05 Ameritrade Holding Corp 10-Q 12/31/04 7:53 950137
1: 10-Q................ Quarterly Report -- HTML 10-Q · 1st Page of 31± No Page-Breaks Line 2,586: The Company ’s investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of December 31, 2004 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of December 31, 2004 and September 24, 2004 , the Company’s investment in Knight was valued at $86.6 million and $72.8 million, respectively. The Company’s cost basis is $0.7 million; therefore the gross unrealized gain was $85.9 million and ... Line 2,595: During fiscal 2003, the Company and a counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. The Company has designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the embedded collars are recorded in other comprehensive income, net of income taxes. As ... Line 2,707: Investment in Knight Line 6,396: ... contracts ”) with a counterparty with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. At the inception of ... Line 6,401: ... percent of the notional amount. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. At maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap ... Line 6,409: ... greater than the floor price but less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. Line 6,415: We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows associated with the forecasted future sales outside the price ranges of ... Line 6,438: ... each forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other comprehensive ... Line 6,538: ... revolving credit agreement as of September 24, 2004 . We hold two marketable equity securities, our investments in approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight and 75,700 shares of The Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc., which were recorded at fair value of $87.4 million ($54.3 million net of tax) at ... Line 6,545: ... 2003, we entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain an embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. As of December 31, 2004 and September 24, 2004 , the fair value of the embedded collars was ... Line 6,553: ... forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in cash flows associated with changes in the value of Knight shares outside the price ranges of the collars. 2: EX-10.1............. First Amendment to Third Amended and Restated
Revolving Credit Agreement -- 15 pages
3: EX-10.2............. Summary of Fiscal 2005 Performance Criteria
-- 1 page
4: EX-15.1............. Awareness Letter -- 1 page
5: EX-31.1............. Certification of Peo -- 2 pages
6: EX-31.2............. Certification of Pfo -- 2 pages
7: EX-32.1............. Section 906 Certification -- 1 page

1/18/05 Ameritrade Holding Corp 8-K{2,9} 1/18/05 2:10 Bowne of Dallas I..01/FA
1: 8-K................. Current Report -- HTML
2: EX-99.1............. News Release -- HTML EX-99.1 · 1st Page of 8± No Page-Breaks Line 1,981: ... broker-dealer cash and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward contract for future sale and ... GRAPHIC............. c91201c9120199.gif

12/10/04 Ameritrade Holding Corp 10-Q/A 6/25/04 5:42 950137
1: 10-Q/A.............. Amendment to Form 10-Q -- HTML 10-Q/A · 1st Page of 36± No Page-Breaks Line 2,732: The Company ’s investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of June 25, 2004 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of June 25, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the Company ’s investment in Knight was valued at $79.8 million and $90.0 million, respectively. The Company ’s cost basis is $0.7 million; therefore the gross unrealized gain was $79.1 million and $89.3 million ... Line 2,741: During fiscal 2003, the Company and a counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. The Company has designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the embedded collars are recorded in other comprehensive income, net of income taxes. As ... Line 2,836: Investment in Knight Line 4,307: In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska. The plaintiff asserts his action on behalf of persons who became clients of ... Line 4,311: ... the Company , the principal allegations of the complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities ... Line 4,329: ... director of the Company , are liable under Section 20(a) of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class certification or ... Line 4,339: ... against the Company defendants will be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent of denying certification of a plaintiff class. The District Court ruled that plaintiff must file an amended complaint that ... Line 5,719: We define liquid assets as the sum of a) non broker-dealer cash and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward contract for future sale and c) regulatory net capital of our broker-dealer ... Line 7,725: ... contracts ”) with a counterparty with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. At the inception of the forward contracts , we ... Line 7,740: ... various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. At maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap price, divided by the market price, for each underlying share. If the market price at maturity is greater than the floor price but less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows associated with the forecasted future sales outside the price ranges of ... Line 7,765: ... rates with a weighted average of approximately 4.3 percent. Upon settlement of a forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other comprehensive income into earnings. Line 7,841: ... floating rate, as of June 25, 2004 and September 26, 2003 . We hold two marketable equity securities, our investments in approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight and 75,700 shares of The Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc., which were recorded at fair value of $80.3 million ($49.6 million net of ... Line 7,848: ... we entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain an embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. As of June 25, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the fair value of the embedded collars was ... Line 7,856: ... forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in cash flows associated with changes in the value of Knight shares outside the price ranges of the collars. Line 7,942: Litigation – In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company, Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska. The plaintiff asserts his action on behalf of persons who became clients ... Line 7,946: ... the Company , the principal allegations of the complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities ... Line 7,955: ... of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company, Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class certification or strike the class action allegations. In July 2004 the District Court ... Line 7,964: ... filed, the claims against the Company defendants will be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent of denying certification of a plaintiff class. The District Court ruled that plaintiff must file an amended ... 2: EX-15.1............. Awareness Letter of Independent Registered
Public Accounting Firm -- 1 page
3: EX-31.1............. Certification of Joseph H. Moglia, Principal
Executive Officer -- 2 pages
4: EX-31.2............. Certification of John R. Macdonald, Principal
Financial Officer -- 2 pages
5: EX-32.1............. Certification Pursuant to Section 906 -- 1 page

12/09/04 Ameritrade Holding Corp 10-K 9/24/04 16:166 950137
1: 10-K................ Annual Report -- HTML 10-K · 1st Page of 130± No Page-Breaks Line 1,905: Our investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding shares. Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. We account for our investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available for sale. As of September 24, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , our investment in Knight was valued at $72.8 million and $90.0 million, respectively. Our cost basis is ... Line 1,924: ... amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and ... Line 1,933: ... maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price ... Line 1,945: ... the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. Line 1,955: ... flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows ... Line 1,987: ... of a forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other ... Line 2,192: In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States ... Line 2,199: ... principal allegations of the complaint were that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claimed that the Company ’s ... Line 2,214: ... persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requested monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny ... Line 2,228: ... claims against the Company defendants would be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent ... Line 4,683: ... a) non broker-dealer cash and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward ... Line 5,046: ... cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of our investment in Knight common stock. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the derivatives are recorded in other ... Line 7,958: ... by interest expense associated with the forward contracts on our Knight investment in fiscal 2003. We had no borrowings outstanding on our revolving credit agreement during ... Line 8,547: ... amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and ... Line 8,556: ... maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price ... Line 8,568: ... the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. Line 8,578: ... flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows ... Line 8,611: Upon settlement of a forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be ... Line 9,096: ... variable forward contracts . The actual amount of the obligation is dependent on the market value of the underlying Knight shares at maturity of the contracts and may be settled in Knight shares or cash, at our option. Line 10,243: ... marketable equity securities, our investments in approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight and 75,700 shares of The Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc., which were recorded at fair value of ... Line 10,255: ... contracts with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain an embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of ... Line 10,261: ... as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. As of September 24, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the fair value of the embedded ... Line 10,269: ... changes in cash flows associated with changes in the value of Knight shares outside the price ranges of the collars. Line 17,400: Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”) — The Company owns approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight, representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of September 24, 2004 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of September 24, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the Company’s investment in Knight was valued at $72.8 million and $90.0 million, respectively. The ... Line 17,436: ... counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares (see Note 16). Line 17,558: Investment in Knight Line 22,638: In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States ... Line 22,645: ... principal allegations of the complaint were that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claimed that the Company ’s ... Line 22,659: ... persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requested monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny ... Line 22,673: ... claims against the Company defendants would be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent ... Line 23,463: ... notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of ... Line 23,472: ... 2006 and 2007. At maturity, the Company may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at the Company ’s option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap price, ... Line 23,484: ... less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, the Company intends to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. Line 23,494: ... as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the ... Line 23,516: ... contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other comprehensive ... 2: EX-10.9............. Non-Qualified Stock Option Agreement -- 3 pages
3: EX-10.11............ Amendment to Employment Agreement -- 4 pages
4: EX-10.12............ Non-Qualified Stock Option Agreement -- 4 pages
5: EX-10.15............ Renewal of Executive Employment Agreement
-- 1 page
6: EX-10.25............ Form of 1996 Long Term Incentive Plan Non-Qualified
Stock Option Agreement for Executives -- 5 pages
7: EX-10.27............ Form of 1996 Directors Incentive Plan Non-Qualified
Stock Option Agreement -- 2 pages
8: EX-10.28............ Form of 1996 Directors Incentive Plan Restricted
Stock Agreement -- 2 pages
9: EX-10.29............ Executive Deferred Compensation Program
-- 4 pages
10: EX-10.32............ First Amendment of Datek Online Holdings
Corp. 1998 Stock Option Plan -- 2 pages
11: EX-10.34............ First Amendment of Datek Online Holdings
Corp. 2001 Stock Incentive Plan -- 1 page
12: EX-21.1............. Subsidiaries of the Registrant -- 2 pages
13: EX-23.1............. Consent of Independent Registered Public
Accounting Firm -- 1 page
14: EX-31.1............. Certification of Principal Executive Officer
-- 2 pages
15: EX-31.2............. Certification of Principal Financial Officer
-- 2 pages
16: EX-32.1............. Certification -- 1 page

10/19/04 Ameritrade Holding Corp 8-K{2,9} 10/19/04 2:13 950137
1: 8-K................. Current Report -- HTML
2: EX-99.1............. Press Release -- HTML EX-99.1 · 1st Page of 10± No Page-Breaks Line 2,952: ... and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward contract for future sale and c) regulatory net capital of our broker-dealer ... GRAPHIC............. c88884c888841eo1.gif

8/03/04 Ameritrade Holding Corp 10-Q 6/25/04 6:54 950137
1: 10-Q................ Quarterly Report -- HTML 10-Q · 1st Page of 35± No Page-Breaks Line 2,726: The Company ’s investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of June 25, 2004 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of June 25, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the Company ’s investment in Knight was valued at $79.8 million and $90.0 million, respectively. The Company ’s cost basis is $0.7 million; therefore the ... Line 2,737: During fiscal 2003, the Company and a counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. The Company has designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the embedded collars are ... Line 2,838: Investment in Knight Line 4,277: In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska. The plaintiff ... Line 4,282: ... pertains to the Company , the principal allegations of the complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities laws, including Sections ... Line 4,293: ... the Company , are liable under Section 20(a) of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class certification or ... Line 4,305: ... against the Company defendants will be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent of denying certification of a plaintiff class. The ... Line 5,631: Regulation G. We define liquid assets as the sum of a) non broker-dealer cash and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward contract for future sale and c) regulatory net capital of our ... Line 7,673: ... contracts (the “forward contracts ”) with a counterparty with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. At the inception of the forward ... Line 7,680: ... on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. At maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap ... Line 7,689: ... price at maturity is greater than the floor price but less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows associated ... Line 7,720: ... of approximately 4.3 percent. Upon settlement of a forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other ... Line 7,801: ... marketable equity securities, our investments in approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight and 75,700 shares of The Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc., which were recorded at fair value of $80.3 million ($49.6 million net of tax) at June 25, ... Line 7,818: ... entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain an embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. As of June 25, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the fair value of the embedded collars was approximately $36.6 million and $46.7 million, ... Line 7,828: ... forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in cash flows associated with changes in the value of Knight shares outside the price ranges of the collars. Line 7,874: Litigation – In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska. Line 7,879: ... it pertains to the Company , the principal allegations of the complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities laws, including Sections ... Line 7,890: ... the Company , are liable under Section 20(a) of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. In January 2004, the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class certification or ... Line 7,902: ... against the Company defendants will be stayed pending arbitration. The District Court also granted the Knight defendants’ motion to dismiss and to strike to the extent of denying certification of a plaintiff class. The ... 2: EX-10.1............. Executive Employment Agreement -- 13 pages
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5/06/04 Ameritrade Holding Corp 10-Q 3/26/04 8:67 950137
1: 10-Q................ Quarterly Report -- HTML 10-Q · 1st Page of 35± No Page-Breaks Line 2,704: The Company ’s investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of March 26, 2004 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of March 26, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the Company ’s investment in Knight was valued at $98.8 million and $90.0 million, respectively. The Company ’s cost basis is $0.7 million; therefore the ... Line 2,715: During fiscal 2003, the Company and a counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. The Company has designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the embedded collars are ... Line 2,807: Investment in Knight Line 4,253: ... against this action. In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of ... Line 4,259: ... complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities laws, including Sections ... Line 4,269: ... the Company , are liable under Section 20(a) of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. On January 16, 2004 , the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class ... Line 5,582: Regulation G. We define liquid assets as the sum of a) non broker-dealer cash and cash equivalents, b) the market value, net of tax, of our investment in Knight Trading Group, Inc. that is not subject to a prepaid variable forward contract for future sale and c) regulatory net ... Line 7,662: ... contracts (the “forward contracts ”) with a counterparty with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. At the inception of the forward ... Line 7,668: ... amount. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. At maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap price, divided by the market price, for ... Line 7,678: ... floor price but less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forward contract is settled in Knight shares or in cash, we intend to sell the underlying Knight shares at maturity. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in the cash flows associated ... Line 7,699: ... of approximately 4.3 percent. Upon settlement of a forward contract , the fair value of the collar and the realized gain or loss on the Knight stock delivered to the counterparty or otherwise sold will be reclassified from other ... Line 7,782: 26, 2004 . We hold two marketable equity securities, our investments in approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight and 75,700 shares of The Nasdaq Stock Market, Inc., which were recorded at fair value of $99.4 million ($61.3 ... Line 7,791: ... total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain an embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. We have designated the forward contracts as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. As of March 26, 2004 and September 26, 2003 , the fair value of the embedded collars was approximately $54.2 million and $46.7 ... Line 7,800: The forward contracts are expected to be perfectly effective hedges against changes in cash flows associated with changes in the value of Knight shares outside the price ranges of the collars. 2: EX-10.1............. Executive Employment Agreement -- 12 pages
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1: 10-Q................ Quarterly Report -- HTML 10-Q · 1st Page of 33± No Page-Breaks Line 2,446: The Company ’s investments consist primarily of ownership of approximately 7.9 million shares of Knight Trading Group, Inc. (“Knight”), representing approximately seven percent of Knight’s outstanding common shares as of December 31, 2003 . Knight is a publicly held company that is a market maker in equity securities. The Company accounts for its investment in Knight as a marketable equity security available-for-sale. As of December 31, 2003 and September 26, 2003 , the Company ’s investment in Knight was valued at $115.9 million and $90.0 million, respectively. The Company ’s cost basis is $0.7 ... Line 2,463: During fiscal 2003, the Company and a counterparty entered into a series of prepaid variable forward contracts on the Knight shares. The forward contracts mature on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average ... Line 2,469: ... as cash flow hedges of the forecasted future sales of 7.9 million Knight shares. Accordingly, all changes in the fair value of the embedded collars are recorded in other comprehensive ... Line 2,581: Investment in Knight Line 3,469: In October 2003, Keener, a pro se plaintiff, filed a putative class action against the Company , Knight Trading Group, Inc. and certain individuals in the United States District Court for the District of Nebraska. The plaintiff ... Line 3,474: ... pertains to the Company , the principal allegations of the complaint are that the Company had an indirect and direct equity interest in Knight, to which it directed most of its orders for execution; that the Company failed to accurately disclose the nature of its relationship with Knight and the consideration it received from Knight for directing order flow to Knight; and that clients of Ameritrade did not receive best execution of their orders from Knight and the Company . The plaintiff claims that the Company ’s conduct violated certain provisions of the federal securities laws, including Sections ... Line 3,485: ... the Company , are liable under Section 20(a) of the Exchange Act as “controlling persons” for the claimed wrongs attributed to the Company and Knight. In his prayer for relief, plaintiff requests monetary damages and/or rescissionary relief in the amount of $4.5 billion against all defendants, jointly and severally. On January 16, 2004 , the Company , Knight and the individual defendants filed motions to dismiss the complaint and to deny class ... Line 4,868: ... convertible subordinated notes during October 2003, partially offset by interest expense associated with the forward contracts on our Knight investment which began in the second quarter of fiscal 2003. Line 5,190: ... contracts (the “forward contracts ”) with a counterparty with a total notional amount of approximately $41.4 million on 7.9 million underlying Knight shares. The forward contracts each contain a zero-cost embedded collar on the value of the Knight shares, with a weighted average floor price of $5.13 per share and a weighted average cap price of $6.17 per share. At the inception of the forward ... Line 5,197: ... on various dates in fiscal years 2006 and 2007. At maturity, we may settle the forward contracts in shares of Knight or in cash, at our option. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is equal to or less than the floor price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive one share of Knight or its cash equivalent for each underlying share. If the market price of the Knight stock at maturity is greater than the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of shares of Knight or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price plus the excess of the market price over the cap ... Line 5,206: ... price at maturity is greater than the floor price but less than or equal to the cap price, the counterparty will be entitled to receive the number of Knight shares or its cash equivalent equal to the ratio of the floor price divided by the market price for each underlying share. Regardless of whether the forw

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A CMKXer Writes to President Bush


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Saltydog's letter to President Bush
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The Honorable George W. Bush
President of the United States
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20500


March 10, 2005

Dear President Bush

I sincerely hope this letter finds you well and has a profound a decisive reaction from you. I trust bringing this to your personal attention will cause you to act and come to the correct decision. I will attempt to advise you of what I know and what I see as a citizen who has been in the trenches of due diligence, finding a quagmire of corruption in some higher levels of government and the securities markets.

First of all, I am a middle class individual, making $100,000 to $125,000 per year for the past 10 years. I am a Texas boy, born in Greenville, Texas and graduated from Trinity University, San Antonio. We are both around the same age as I am 57 year old residence of Orlando, Florida. I played baseball for the New York Yankees and Philadelphia Phillies early in life and I know you owned the Texas Rangers for a time. We have other things in common since we are both Christians. My Dad is a retired Presbyterian Minister, Dr. of Divinity from Vanderbilt University. I love what you have done for our country, your management style and honesty is why my family respects you so much.

Having introduced myself, I wish to get to the point of my letter. I wish I could look you in the eye to discuss this powerful topic instead of writing you, as I believe I could get my point across more effectively.

President Bush, you have the chance to save America and the Social Security program which you are trying to implement and is the single most important change in our nation's history. However, I believe your potential for success would be far greater should you institute changes within the system of trading by closing the loopholes which exist at the D.T.C.C. and exploited by Hedge funds, offshore companies, Foreign Exchanges and corrupt broker dealers, which are "Naked Shorting Selling" our stocks to death.

Thousands of small companies are run right of out business every year. Even the newest, regulation SHO, which went into effect January of this year, has had virtually no effect on the Naked Shorting.


The net result, President Bush, is that if this continues, no Social Security program would ever be safe and our children will not have control of their destiny. Please address this issue once and for all. The S.E.C. proclaims to be our friend and has the duty of watching out for the stockholders of America, but I am afraid that justice has not prevailed and corruption has entered the marketplace at its highest levels. It is my feeling that people like George Soros, hedge funds, market manipulators and corrupt Broker Dealers are even funneling a percentage of illegal profits to fund terrorism and many other illegal activities.

Naked Shorting sir is, creating shares from thin air (counterfeiting), through the abuse of D.T.C.C. borrowing program. This is where the problem needs to be stopped. Then perhaps a level playing field could exist again and the public’s confidence regained through electronic trading with a specialist instead of Market Maker and would also be more easily maintained.

President Bush, I implore you to act on this huge problem and leave a legacy for all Americans. Please contact me anytime at home xxx-xxx-xxxx or my cell xxx-xxx-xxxx should yourself or a staff member wish to discuss this matter further. I love the job you have doing to defeat terrorism and tackle major problems we face internally such as described above. God bless you and your family and God Bless America.


Respectfully,


Patrick K. Cluney

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By: abadgoodgirl
25 Mar 2005, 07:59 PM EST
Msg. 867596 of 867629
(This msg. is a reply to 867488 by rogue.river.)
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i don't pimp stocks. I pick them and they're either good or bad. I do my research and that is that.

CMKX is an obscure company in Nevada with the assets in the CEO's hometown of Saskatchewan.

It's a pink sheet stock. Odds are already against it so you are the dumb dumbs in my opinion.

Challenges are my middle name, I search for undervalued companies.

CMKX has Robert A. Maheu as its co-chairman. Citigroup is sponsoring an obscure pink sheet company in the funny car circuit when they now have their own BUSH car.

CMKX has claims surrounding Debeers and Shore Gold. CMKX has more than a sponsor relationship with Citigroup.

And I bought the stock because of the mineral claims surrounding DeBeers' property and the claims are located in mineral rich saskatchewan and it trades at .0001.

There is not much information available but that is the nature of the pink sheets. So it goes with the territory.

Those are the bottom lines and no other pink sheet has those kinds of claims, with that kind of high profile leadership and an as yet unknown relationship with Citigroup besides sponsoring the car.

The Prince Alwalleed Bin Talal Alsaud is the largest single shareholder in Citigroup.

Maheu has contacts from here to the Middle East according to his statement in the Review Journal.

Maheu was announced January 31st 2004 and Citigroup sponsored CMKX shortly thereafter.

There is something valuable on those claims of Urbans in Saskatchewan or Citigroup and Maheu would have no use for an obscure POS pink sheet stock like CMKX.

But we'll just have to wait and see. Out of all the speculative penny stocks out there, this one is the most intriquing of them all. It trades more shares daily then any other security in the history of the free world and yet the price doesn't go up.

Say what you will be the longs here who have done there research find this a fascinating set of events and feel based upon the circumstantial evidence something very very serious is involved and the shareholders will be rewarded.

You can bet your bippy that Saudi Arabian Investor Prince Alwalleed Bin Talal Alsaud knows all about what CMKX has in the way of claims.

Sorry you of are the mindset that all pink sheet stocks and all penny stocks are scams. Go buy Enron or Worldcon and get yourself a respectable company that was NYSE with audited financial statements and get out of this arena.

You do not belong down here searching for opportunities. I am not a very good pumper since the stock is in the toilette and hasnt gone anywhere from my postings.

You are a desperate loser Market Maker or Hedgefund and you have lost. You will lose. You have made poor alliances. You should have alligned yourself with a million + acres of mineral claims in a mineral rich location with DeBeers in their backyard holding a paltry 58K acres of minerals. You are going against the claims, Robert A. Maheu's connections from here to the "Middle East" and Citigroup sponsoring us and putting their logo on our little pink sheet CMKX funny car where the security trades billions and billions daily and a price that never moves.

You are a pathetic tassle loafer wearing girlie man who sucked money illegally from American small companies and individual investors and you deserve what is coming your way.

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legal, i'll hand it to ya. you guys do come up with alot of interesting factoids...

problem is? they just don't all fit together under cmk?....

IF there WAS a nekked shoit? UC sold you guys out buy selling DIRECT to the MM's....

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I OWN "CMKX"!!!!!!!! ............IM GONNA RETIRE AND GO TO DISNEY WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!............LOL.........SORRY I COULD NOT HELP MYSELF..........GOOD LUCK

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
legal, i'll hand it to ya. you guys do come up with alot of interesting factoids...

problem is? they just don't all fit together under cmk?....

IF there WAS a nekked shoit? UC sold you guys out buy selling DIRECT to the MM's....

And spend the rest of his life running from 45-70K angry shareholders? Don't thinks so.

Haven't you heard about the diamonds, gold, uranium, oil and zinc? Why would he want to spend a life on the run when he has the goods? Why would he want to throw away a loyal shareholder base of that size as he goes into full mining operations?

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legel, sorry bud but your theories hold less water then a strainer. cmkx may find a diamond mine 1 day. the controling partner in the uranium mine may 1 day mine uranium. their gold mine may install needed cash flow. out of all the cults wild ideas these may happen. but to prove a naked short there is no need to flood the market with 703 billion shares. 203 billion of which hit the market when the pps was .0001 to .0002 thus selling into the market hi & buying low is out on them. if thats what UC was doing he could have stopped at 100 billion or 50 billion & proven the same thing. what your cult is saying is that every or almost every shareholder in the general public holds naked shorted shares. the truth is i could see a company doing just what your theory states to prove that the system is corrupt. but this could be done with 100 million shares. in fact i'd love to see a CEO read your theory & put it into play. pick some unconnected SOB out of the main shareholders & let him loose, buy everything up over the course of 6 months & then walk into a court of law with the goods, not the SEC's office. maybe take it to a newly elected senator. one not corrupted by yrs in washington. i'll even be kind enough to say that naked shorting started UC down the dilution trail back in 2003 when in 6 months the o/s went from 500 million to 7.3 billion but thats where i and so many other say enough is enough. at that point UC went from being the screwee to being the screwer & dilution got way past out of control. as for running from angry shareholders??? if the SEC shuts cmkx down who will the cult blame? UC? or the system?...i'll bet it isn't UC

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And he's so capable, he is managing all those diamonds (2 bit sized), gold, uranium, oil and zinc all by himself, huh? Impossible!!!! Therefore, they probably exist in quantity and value as do the tiny diamonds they led shareholders to believe were a substantial find with much more in the pipe.
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GOLD,,,,gold,,,gold,,gold, I am selling everything aand aaaaaaaa heading north on U/C'S recomendation of course.
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..scrolling down through legals novel is burning up my computer..Whats a PM ?
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PM = Private Message

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a personal message from god dusty...you'll find them in your profile section

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Hey if CMKX gets shut down can't Urban just roll the assets into one of the dividend companys? UCAD, GEMM, CIM, CMI. I believe we were supposed to get a second GEMM divi.
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legal,

That repost of abadgoodgirl was the biggest piece of crap I have ever read. All racing cars have second, third, an so on sponsors. That doen't mean crap. The logic she is giving must mean that ever second sponsor on a car must have ties with the main sponsor, using that logic then Dupont must be getting ready to sign a deal with Pepsis since both are sponsors on Jeff Gordons cars. After the first couple sentences all she went on about is how Citibank was involved with CMKX. Wrong they are involved with the funny car thats it. All you post ever do is talk about other companies and how they do this and that so cmkx must also be. Wheres the proof. THe only proof we have from UC so far is that there is 703 billion o/s and he can't answer the SEC questions so they will be shut down.

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.....does Ktrain really have CMKX?
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No he was kidding, he is smarter then that.

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.....does Ktrain really have CMKX?



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UC the clown comes out & says "i'm to lazy & incompetent to keep records so there are no financial records to report." (not a perfectionist) yet he can figure out that the way to beat the mm's is to dilute the crap out of his stock & then buy it all back. ya think just maybe you'd want all your ducks in a row when you sprung your trap? ya think maybe you'd want to be able to prove every single point like valuation, finds, maybe even where every dollar went? maybe i'm goofy but i'd have to say i'd want every step in triplicate. I'd want every penny accounted for if i was going to the SEC with some wild scheme to prove i was harmed by naked shorting. (before the comments start we can just say i'm goofy anyway...lol) i'd say the most wrong way to start such a trap is by telling the world..."opps, i forgot to keep records. silly me." so we aren't bashers any more, we are negitivity pumpers...hmmm. i'd have to say our leader in this cause is UC himself. i'm mean how much more negitivity can you spread then this last pr?

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I'll bet U/C did'nt forget where he put that roll of cash he stole from the investors.
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wallace and dwman.. I will accept PM now..also I have two stars..Well,,Thats better than what I got in the first grade....I dont want 5 stars,,I see to many 5 stars who have they're head up they're south end when they're going north!!!
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I have seen so many come in here and talk about how Urban is wasting CMKX money on racing.

First, Urban's racing activities are done under a completely separate corporation called CMKXTREME, INC.

https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=515683

CMKXTREME INC is the Primary Sponsor of the car, not the owner. The owner is CanAm Motorsports. From lasts years PR: "The Canadian native and Can-Am Motorsports have signed a primary sponsorship with a Canadian-based diamond-mining group. The team's new eye-catching Pontiac Firebird will be called the CMKX-treme Machine."

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa4078/is_200404/ai_n9384650


As a primary sponsor CMKXTREME INC., pays a sponsorship fee for the year, based on the amount of exposure it is given. Here is a typical motorsports sponsorship offering with prices:

"Level 7 Primary Major Sponsorship $100,000.00 - $250,000.00
Naming rights sponsorship (perceived “ownership” of the team), race truck and trailer painted in company colors and logos along with matching driver and crew uniforms conforming to company requirements. All self-liquidation items will bear company colors and logos. Sponsorship announcements throughout race season. Advertising on race team website and links to company homepage. Opportunity to involve sponsor’s preferred charitable organization or cause. Discount for multi-year contract. Company has merchandising rights and product endorsements. Tickets to the events including VIP passes where valid. Use of sponsor venue for launch, main event, or supporting event. More details to be worked out with truck owner."


I would say that for a year long advertising program, that is a pretty reasonable rate, considering exposure from the track, programs, television and radio coverage. Heck, just the amount of exposure they have been given on this thread over the year, from the "negativity pumpers" was worth that much.

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yeah right legal...except the "sponsorship" was unarguably designed to market the only product cmk? sells...wasn't it? LOL shares of stock

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bill, you stated, "but this could be done with 100 million shares". How would you financially squeeze the DTCC and MMs with $10,000 worth of shares? Doesn't 800 billion @ $80,000,000.00 make more sense, not to mention profit. If CMKX was going to break the backs of the NS it had to be something collosal, something they would never forget, something they couldn't say: "Oh, that was just an entry error.
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quote:
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yeah right legal...except the "sponsorship" was unarguably designed to market the only product cmk? sells...wasn't it? LOL shares of stock

Sure glass, that was exactly what it was designed to do: SELL SHARES.

That is how a diamond exploration company derives it's financing to perform it's exploration activities. They aren't selling a product, yet, they are asking for financing of the exploration activities. Frankly, I am glad they went to a large population of potential investors to achieve that financing. It gave them the working capital they needed to not only "explore", but fend off the attack by the MM's with a major financial trap.

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quote:
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quote:
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yeah right legal...except the "sponsorship" was unarguably designed to market the only product cmk? sells...wasn't it? LOL shares of stock

Sure glass, that was exactly what it was designed to do: SELL SHARES.

That is how a diamond exploration company derives it's financing to perform it's exploration activities. They aren't selling a product, yet, they are asking for financing of the exploration activities. Frankly, I am glad they went to a large population of potential investors to achieve that financing. It gave them the working capital they needed to not only "explore", but fend off the attack by the MM's with a major financial trap.

so, where's the diamonds? you know, i've followed this since summer of '03, and i ALMOST bought 300$ worth then....somebody was posting RIGHT HERE that they had a friend on site up there and that daimonds were already being brought up out of the ground...

since then?

the 300$ would have become 100$ and my "peice" of the pie?
would have become astronomically less....the numbers are astounding....i'm not even gonna try to figure out the exzakt proportion of 1msh of500million to 1 mill sh in 700billion...my cacklacker don't even go above 100 millions....
i don't know how you guys can keep making excuses...

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the only financial trap i see here is the poor investors who have to take 50% LOSS to get back out

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Glass, it would be extremely illogical to announce major mineral finds into a share structure this large, and a market this manipulated. That is why they are fixing that problem first.
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quote:
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Glass, it would be extremely illogical to announce major mineral finds into a share structure this large, and a market this manipulated. That is why they are fixing that problem first.

come on legal...

this would be a two year old "secret"...( hint: they don't exist)...

you think i'm posting this out of some sadistic pleasure?.. i'm not....this is going backwards and has been since summer "03.....

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legel..many of the naked short theories install the great care UC has for not destroying the market as a whole, thus further ruining your 703 billion reason. second as i pointed out you would want exact records, not "we can't find some" records. the point is to prove there are more shares in the market then in the o/s. the fact is this can be done with 1 share, you want to squeeze'em ok 100 billion shares. the only squeeze 703 billion causes is the r/s squeeze the investors will have to endure IF the SEC says ok stay on the pinks but REPORT EVERYTHING.

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hey glass, would that be the summer the o/s went from 500 million to 7.3 billion???...lol

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Glass,

I don't know whether to laugh at the CMKX faithful because it is so damn comical or cry because it is so pathetic.

No matter how one looks at it, it has been a trip!

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Not sure I would cry but I know the feeling. I am just amazed myself after the last PR how anyone could still believe. So I would say stunned, bewildered, amazed, shocked, baffled, dumbfounded, astonished, disturbed, not sure what word to use because they are so pathetic which makes it so comical.


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Glass,

I don't know whether to laugh at the CMKX faithful because it is so damn comical or cry because it is so pathetic.

No matter how one looks at it, it has been a trip!



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Well, Ric, I guess I am just much more empathetic than you. LOL Saw your comment to SH21. What makes you think bashers distort the truth?
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That doesn't include cmkx bashers lol. They are another breed in of themselves. Just like there koolaid counterparts. roflmao

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I feel 100% better now that we are set apart from regular bashers! LOL
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