Yeah it means that they aren't included in the 2032. But thats all it means. So it says there is more then 2032 stockholders. 2032 registered plus the ones being held under street name. But that doesn't change o/s or mean there is shorting. It means that they don't know exactly how many stockholders on record because some are under street name by the brokers. Plain and simple. Gawd get a life. Nothing will save this now.
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LOL I had enough of this nonsense for the day. Tune in tomorrow for more unbelivable, outlandish, unfounded, distorted, twisted, fanstatic, adventures and theories from the CMKX faithful.
NONSENSE !!!
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Dwman, In addition to myself, Doc, Bill, Ed, Wallace, and Will are going to be heading your way soon. Again, if you'd like me to bring some Wisconsin corn fed beef, please let me know as we will be the ones eating it. I'll bring some tenderizer for your crow as well.
Also, if I've forgotten anyone (I'm sure I have) please call 1-800-BLK-BIRD and DW will reserve a spot at his table for you. Nothing like a friendly shareholder get-together! Who's bringing the lemonade?
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Just think about this all that believe in naked shorting. How many billion shares a day would you need to dilute to get to a o/s of 703 billion? How can there be shorting when if only 1 billion a day was added it would only be 250 billion shares in a year excluding holidays and weekends. Double it to 500 billion because they gave themselves 1 share for each share dilute to maintain a majority. How in the world can you claim shorting when dilution made up half the avg. volume a day. So basically if 2 billion shares were added a day its only 500 billion shares a year so it would take a year and a half to dilute that many shares at 2 billion a day. 1 billion to float and 1 billion to owner. Remember if a MM was selling for CMKX then they would sell at discount to other mm and people would buy so there would be a buy an sell for the shares.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by Will:
quote:Can anyone explain that pig slop this Long Strong Jim wrote?
Sure, I can. He's saying that the 2000 or so shareholders are the "real" shareholders, or, the registered certificate holders. Everything else is naked shorted. But, take a look at what CMKX is under investigation for.Among other things, stock issuances and Rule 144 distributions. If he/she is right and the 703 billion are the only registered shares my guess would be that Urban issued restricted and/or unregistered shares well in excess of the 800 billion authorized, just like in Canada where they've been halted for the same thing.
Wow... after re-re-reading the SEC PR what you posted makes a lot of sense as I couldn't understand what restricted shares the PR was talking about from the SEC. Wow I hope he goes to jail for that or gets a severe beat down at the next races
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HAHAH FOX's new hit reality show: When Pumpers wake up!!
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Gender: Male Billabong show me where the company has released one PR about retiring shares since 2003? Also, did you not see Posts: 788 the A/S raised last summer to 800B? You have had plenty of time to sell and get out....it is your fault.
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Now paltalknews,,, the poor sap that would log in and report the nonsense in sterlings, has woken to reality and is preaching on how dissappointed he is is getting an ear full from the same people he pumped.. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by will: Hey poorman, ltns, hope you're well.
I don't think your request to give it a rest will be granted nor should it be.
People that rabidly supported this stock and the means they used to do it should be openly discussed, so others can be on guard from their tactics.
Hey back Will Never was in this one, looked at it 10 months ago and just laughed. I glanced in at the thread once in a while and saw you and Wallace beating the pumpers up. I'm just tired of seeing this one at the top of my screen Hope your pic's are doing well. How did it ever work out on the 50 week low angle you were trying? Oh well talk to You again when we are in the same stock.
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well just caught up on the last 2 pgs...left at 10 last nite..i had to stop laughing...Upside, ..DW is 1 of those i feel for so lets be nice. when we feed him the crow lets pluck the feathers first ok? maybe remove the talons too
ya know there could be naked shares out there but with 703 billion real shares covering would be easy. just think of the sell off when it starts trading again. i'm sure there are normal ppl like DW that own cmkx & will try and salvage at least a few hundred bucks. all the mm's would have to do is buy everything sold at .0001. you watch the volume when it reopens, i'll bet it doubles for a bunch of days. the pps will never move past .0002 & 75% of the trades will be at .0001. the faithful will of course be buying more at .0002 but that wont be enough to offset the selling. there could be 500 bilion naked but you'd need NASA computers to figure it all out with 703 billion real shares in the mix.
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700 billion at .0001 = market cap of 70 billion. Our gold in equador will equal or exceed that.
Any significant diamond or gold discovery will make us rise considerably.
Remember the basics of stock valuation, forget day trading. Forget the hype. Go back to value.
As a diamond exploration company we are a good value. =========================================
have you been drinking the kool-aide all nite to come up with that?? Johnnyrotten??? should be brainisrotten. do you understand how the market works at all??? for a pps to go up the mm's need to start running out of shares. for that to happen with a 703 billion o/s every person in the U.S. & canada from newborne to laying on the death bed would have to start buying up shares. lets just say the pps did hit .01. thats $10K per million shares. you would need to have ppl willing to buy at least 20% of the o/s to move it to .011 or 140 billion shares or $140 million. we wont even start on figuring the money needed to get it to .01. ya really think the faithful has that kind of cash in the bank to buy that many shares??? nobody else will be buying because no sane person buys a stock with a 703 billion o/s take your cult crap elsewhere pal..its not wanted around here.
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It's always something, bill. Now we know there's over a 100 shares per living person in the world, it's never mind the O/S, look at the value. OK "Remember the basics of stock valuation", value my ass! They're gone crazy. I guess losing your life savings or a good portion of it will make you think all kinds of weird sh*t.
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Posted by: cajun-la In reply to: None Date:3/4/2005 10:22:36 PM Post #of 144135
My e-mail was answered from andy, hope he doesn't mind me relaying his answer as it clarifies the pr. My e-mail follows his response, please excuse as it was written in anger
No that is not what it says at all. There is 703 bill. outstanding. There are 2032 shareholders who hold shares in cert form but the number of shares held by these people has not been divulged at this time, but it is part of the 703 bill. The remaining shares which has also not been divulged at this time are held by all other shareholders in street name, ie broker accounts, but again it is all part of the total 703 bill. Of course the total number of shareholders fluctuates on a daily basis. Of the total 800 bill authorized there is 97 bill which is unissued. Thank you.
mike@bellsouth.net wrote: can't you guys get it thru your heads that this is not a time to be vague in your pr's. what do you mean, all people not holding certs makes up 95bill. shares. once again the shareholders are clueles. A year and a half has made me tired of speculating on what you guys are thinking, this is not a game
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Why didn't they give us the float?They never give a clear PR!It's always...We'll give you this much information,on this one part of it, and you have to figure the rest out for yourself.Pumpers and bashers,you may have at it now... It's that kinda deal every time!
It's been fun for me though,but I'll never look at the NHRA the same way again.Or any race car for that matter.LOL
I've seen alot of people freak out talking about CMKX.I think it has even driven some to go mad.LOL
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"I think it has even driven some to go mad"
Go mad? These guy have been stark raving lunatics for a long time now.
"They never give clear PR!"
....and that was all I ever asked about. Why not be forthright and forthciming in your PR's? When clarity was avoided and ambiguity was embraced it only led me to believe the reason for not being clear was the truth was bad news.
Just asking the question, why the uncertaintity in their PR's earned you dismissal and labeled an idiot without capacity to understand this complicated situation. "The Master Plan", "Secrets from Compitetors", Secrets from the MM's", "Negotiations with the Regulartory Agencies", these are complicated things the average investor can't understand, only the chosen that bought over their brilliant heads.
Boy they sure had this figured out! LOL
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i too would like more info highway...like how many shares were given to roger the dodger. my guess is that most of that 279 billion increase just before the dividend own by date went to him. as always those shares get sold directly to the market & fast. my guess is he held them till he got all the dividends & to the market he went. being the lawyer for USCA he probably got his restriction waved & those have been sold too. notice the steady drop in both GEMM & USCA's pps in the last 2 months. gemm had 1 run in there. look at almost all OTC & pink sheets, thats how they pay council as the filings call it. & what did CMKX get in return??? not 1 filing, not 1 report. but of course he did so much we never saw.
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You guys/gals aren't looking at this realistically. All you are doing is focusing on the huge OS number instead of the dollar value that comes to.
Someone could buy a billion shares and the dollar value would be a relatively small investment for some institution or big investor. Ten thousand isn't a huge investment.
So, the dollar value needed to drive the price up is not as daunting that you are using the OS number to make it seem.
Let's say they had an 703 to 1 reverse split bringing OS under to billion, and you owned 30 million shares, you would be left with,
42,674 shares.
If a diamond discovery of 5 billion dollars it would book at 5.00 share, and stocks trade at 2 to 3 times book.
10/share X 42,000 = 420 thousand dollars.
I think anyone who would give up such a return is a total retard.
It all depends on finding the goods.
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Oh I've noticed Bill, but also noticed USCA has been on and off the Regulation SHO Threshold Security List.Mostly on,they're on there now. http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
That's one thing that is kind of fueling some wild ideas, IMO. Some peoples thoughts have been on NSS because they do seem to have a good case,but no proof for CMKX yet.But,all signs point to yes,IMO. How much or how little, who knows?
That's another thing I like more info. on. Instead of only putting the list of company names on there,if they would put what all, or who all put companies on that list,I think that the SHO List would much better serve it's purpose that way.
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You can fiddle with the OS numbers to restructure everything,
you cannot fiddle with current market cap, it is what it is.
you cannot fiddle with the value of a diamond pipe, it is what it is.
When you look at it this is a good speculative investment. I don't think every investment should be this risky, but it is a good one if you want to use part of your portfolio that way.
It is better than investing in gay porno, which could cost us our souls. In that respect qbid is the riskier of the two in my book.
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No I wouldn't, but the biggest scammers in history have been the clean cut enrons.
I am glad the OS came out and it confirms what we have known for a long time.
People here are acting like this is new info, you and I both know that most believed in a high OS because of the divvys, I held because of valuation. That was a choice made from a business market cap model.
Some held hoping there was some reason the OS was lower, I hoped it was but made my decision based on a 779 billion OS. It is very simple.
Prospective valuation / market cap gives you potential return.
5 billion / 70 million = 71.42
With one diamond discovery the size of shore gold's you get a pop of 71 times todays market cap if figured at straight book value.
The only risk is bankruptcy or going to no bid. The pps cannot go lower right now.
People need to drop the hundreds of billions OS crap and start figuring that in dollar value, it will give you a more accurate perspective.
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i agree ric, still the idea of shorting is doing it to a company that is going under...hmmmmm ya think cmkx fits that mold???
as for rottenjohnny, you really need help. i'm a gambler in many ways but to get 30 million shares so the the coming r/s would leave me with enough shares to have some left after the r/s is foolish. first the mm's wont sell at .0001 often only .0002. they make money on the differance between sells & buys. since they aint buyin at .0002 they aint sellin at .0001. plus if you have 1 million shares & the r/s is 100K to 1 you end up with 10 shares. they better have serious results then or the pps will drop. as for not having an r/s & institutions buying 1 billion worth???...please to even suggest that insults every brain functioning person that reads it. no major company is going to buy a stock with a 703 billion o/s. i dont care how many diamonds or pounds of gold they mine. just having claims worth 350 billion to see a paper value of .50 is meaningless. you have to get those diamonds or the gold out of the ground & sold. if cmkx had a o/s of 500 million it would be a big risk but 703 billion!!!??? i don't think the english language has a word for how f'in stupid that is.
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What in hell are you thinking? There is no value! The claims are probably worthless and, at best, overvalued by insiders. There is no income to speak of. It appears that they have been getting funds by selling authorized shares out from under shareholders' noses. UC is the sole officer? UC and Maheu are the only directors? Conflicts of interest abound. UC has a questionable past record. CMKX is a Nevada registered company. Sneaky moves such as increasing the authorized. On and on and on.
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Some hardly any or no volume, but are on the SHO list.Looks like they can find a way to short 'em if they want to some how.But with a company getting shorted, it's not going to be all out in the open,and work out to be perfect math is it.I thought that's how a company gets on the list on the first place...when the math don't work out.LOL
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now i do know a product cmkx could sell to make a 703 billion o/s have some value...the drugs these cult crazies are taking. can you imagine the numb feeling it has to give?? to have your brain shut down that far? it could cure war. who would fight? just dump huge amounts in the drinking water the world over. then send out a pr about cmkx causing world peace. ppl would be lining up for more drugs & cmkx shares the world over. we would see a $1 pps over night. to da moon!!!!
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That might be true for those stocks. I mean if they had buyers and no seller of course they will short especially on low volume. But if the MM's have 1 1/2 billion share to try and get rid of each day then were is the incentive to short even if it was possible. Shorting just doesn't look possible here.
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highway...notice how many have a Q at the end of the symbol? again the whole idea is to short a company going under & give it that final push over the bye bye brink. notice both USCA & GEMM on that list?? GEMM's parent company Diagmon or whatever says it has nothing going on with the GEMM claims except 1 with some diamonds. they aren't mining those diamonds just said they are there.
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i guess digmon or whatever isnt a parent company for GEMM, they just own the controling interest in everything GEMM owns, claim & mine wize
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Still doesn't matter now. Since everyone knows the o/s is this huge then who will buy this and not need a labotomy. And even if there was some shorting which I can't see, when the stock starts trading there is going to be the largest dumping of shares the world has ever seen. And most will never get their sells to go through.
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gless can you imagine the sales slogon?.... "Got terrorists? 1 glass of CMKX Kool-aide & they will forget what they are killing ppl for." Apply 2 glasses internally & they might blow themselves up.
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sure they will RIC..if buy chance it is naked shorted & mm's are wooried just buy the dump at .0001 & its covered.
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