I tried to catch the bottom on this one a few times and sold at a loss each time. I bought today at .0021 and think that I won't need to sell this at a loss even if it goes lower it may be allright. As long as it doesn't spin into a R/S. That would make me crazy. IMO-Debi
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quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: I tried to catch the bottom on this one a few times and sold at a loss each time.
I also attemted to catch bottom on this one and sold for a loss all but once. Unfortunately, this company has good potential but doesn't seem to care about their stock price. PR's are few and far between.
Hi Lou, I bet they care a lot. They have kind of a toxic financing deal and it has taken them down from .25 a year or so ago. The financing is tied to the stock's price. When the stock tanks the lending company can get more shares for it's loan. Very handy how the price went down so much so they (the lender's Cornell Capital) could load the boat. It happens often with Cornell Capital from what I have seen doing a google search on who they financed and following the various company's stock's price. The plus in all of this is the financing company will now want to make money. So they will see that the price goes up and up so they can sell to make some money. If you sell into that strength you should do well. I won't be in a hurry to sell at the prices we are getting them at. But if shares flood the market and you are in profit and no news that could be a good time to bail. IMO-just my opinion but I think it is pretty clear for this stock. -Debi
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quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: Hi Lou, I bet they care a lot. They have kind of a toxic financing deal and it has taken them down from .25 a year or so ago. The financing is tied to the stock's price. When the stock tanks the lending company can get more shares for it's loan. Very handy how the price went down so much so they (the lender's Cornell Capital) could load the boat. It happens often with Cornell Capital from what I have seen doing a google search on who they financed and following the various company's stock's price. The plus in all of this is the financing company will now want to make money. So they will see that the price goes up and up so they can sell to make some money. If you sell into that strength you should do well. I won't be in a hurry to sell at the prices we are getting them at. But if shares flood the market and you are in profit and no news that could be a good time to bail. IMO-just my opinion but I think it is pretty clear for this stock. -Debi
Thanx for the info Debi. I didn't realize this. Could you please cite me some examples of comanies previously involved with Cornell if you have the time. I'd greatly appreciate it.
Hi Lou, MOBL is the one that may be good enough to survive their financial 'help'. I panic sold most of my MOBL when they first announced their financing deal. I keep my eye on it and would consider buying on a dip.
I had done a search on this last spring and got names from earlier 'victims'. I said then and I will say now it may not be Cornell who shorts their clients but someone is being opportunistic in aggressively shorting them and the beneficiary appears to be the financier.
There may be other posters who can tell you customers from 1-5 years ago and where are they now price wise.
I didn't find much just now but I didn't have a lot of time. Here is a post and an article via google.
A Short Play Waiting to Happen
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MobilePro announced a $100 million equity financing agreement with New Jersey-based Cornell Capital Partners, a hedge fund prone to sell short and finance customers with their own capital.
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May 14, 2004 (AXcess News) Bethesda MD - MobilePro Corp. (OTCBB: MOBL) announced a $100 million equity financing agreement with New Jersey-based Cornell Capital Partners, a hedge fund prone to sell short and finance customers with their own capital.
Since announcing its third quarter results February 13th, MobilePro has signed no less than four Letters of Intent to acquire Internet Service Providers (ISP), recorded a loss of $637,053, or $.005 per share on no revenue and completed the acquisition of EXP Internet Services, an Internet services provider based in Beaumont, Texas.
To:Anthony@Pacific who wrote (74880) From: mmmary Saturday, Feb 2, 2002 12:14 PM View Replies (2) | Respond to of 87347
JNOT trying short squeeze with conversion tactic Can shorts just take a vacation in the Carribean, Tony? Remember GENI did this same letter to shareholders telling them to call in their shares. When they called in their shares, a whole bunch were just plain missing and a clearing house went under. Will this happen to JNOT? Supposedly it's Mark Valentine who is short but who really knows.
I do agree that they have no long term hope. They are also in another toxic convertible right now with Cornell Capital. This is one of jnot's analysts.
"1-29-2002 Dr. John Faessel ON THE MARKET
212-713-5793 firstname.lastname@example.org --------------------------------------------- I think that EENT had them May 2003, CIRT is recent, BTOI recent. I don't know if CIRT had a previous deal with them because their stock has been under a lot of selling pressure this year.
In February Bio One, Can Argo, KLIV got Cornell Capital equity financing and NEOM back in March announced a deal and ROBO 12/2003. A further search would let you know if this is their first deal with the company and how it affected their price. I haven't been following this the way I should have. I just kind of steer clear of them usually. But it important to distinguish between companies who use the credit to buy cash producing companies. MOBL fits that kind of scenario and they will most probably survive. IMO-Debi
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Business Editors NEW YORK--(BUSINESS WIRE)--BIBO-- Incode Corporation today announced its execution of an agreement to acquire KissyKat, a special interest online dating service devoted to pet and animal lovers and their community. Incode expects to close the acquisition of KissyKat in line with the completion of Incode's proposed acquisition by BIB Holdings, Ltd. ("BIB") (OTCBB:BIBO). As online dating increases in popularity, KissyKat offers an exciting new breed of service that sets itself apart from generic matchmaking sites by providing pet and animal lovers with a stimulating interactive experience on a fun and easy-to-use online platform based on the best of today's internet technologies. KissyKat's mission is to bring the enabling power of successful eBusiness to the overall pet community -- to the mutual benefit of pet-owners and pets at the same time. 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The American Pet Products Manufacturers Association reported in April 2004 that pet spending has nearly doubled in the past decade, from $17 billion in 1994 to $32.4 billion in 2003 and a projected $34.3 billion in 2004. Incode's plan is to expand on KissyKat's current model and subscriber base. Incode is targeting KissyKat to make a significant revenue contribution to Incode's overall portfolio of subscription-based eBusinesses, including Incode's previously announced planned industrial and financial services portals. The Online Personals Industry In November 2003, Jupiter Research estimated that 2003 revenues for the U.S. online personals industry would be $313 million, growing to $642 million in 2008. "21% of Internet users browsed online personals in the last year and 13% posted their own profiles" (Nov. 2003). Similarly, Hitwise, in February 2004, reported the market share of visits to online dating web sites in the U.S. has grown over 52% from January 2003 to January 2004, making online dating one of the fastest growing categories on the web. About KissyKat Corporation KissyKat is an online personal service with a focus on a major niche market: the pet products industry. KissyKat helps people who love their pets find love. KissyKat's strategy is premised on the creation of a unique, upscale and innovative environment where like-minded people can socialize and start relationships. KissyKat's founding ideal is to bring the enabling power of the internet to the pet and animal welfare community for the mutual benefit of singles and pets. KissyKat sponsors pet and animal welfare organizations through its unique charitable donation program. Additional information is available online at www.kissykat.com. About Incode Corporation Incode was founded in 2004 to acquire, develop and commercialize innovative and profitable subscription-based eBusinesses in the online dating, information, retail, industrial, and financial services sectors. Additional information is available online at www.incodetech.com. About BIB Holdings Ltd. BIB Holdings Ltd. (OTCBB:BIBO) designs, manufactures, imports, sells and markets branded and non-branded apparel. The company has a showroom in New York, a distribution center in Pennsylvania and a distribution center in Las Vegas, within a Foreign Trade Zone. The company designs, sources and markets a brand of high quality apparel under the m.Sasson, Elk Canyon and New Terrain labels as well as private label. Product lines have included underwear, loungewear and outerwear, as well as accessories such as ties, hats, scarves, gloves, jewelry, backpacks and small leather goods as well as apparel. BIB Holdings Ltd. distributes its clothing via leading retailers throughout the United States and abroad. Additional information is available online at www.msasson.com. Safe Harbor Statement This press release contains statements, which may constitute "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended by the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Those statements include statements regarding the intent, belief or current expectations of BIB Holdings Ltd., and members of their management as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Prospective investors are cautioned that any such forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve risks and uncertainties, and that actual results may differ materially from those contemplated by such forward-looking statements. Important factors currently known to management that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in forward-statements include fluctuation of operating results, the ability to compete successfully and the ability to complete before-mentioned transactions. The company undertakes no obligation to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect changed assumptions, the occurrence of unanticipated events or changes to future operating results. KEYWORD: NEW YORK INDUSTRY KEYWORD: E-COMMERCE INTERNET MERGERS/ACQ SOURCE: Incode CONTACT INFORMATION: BIB Holdings Ltd. Jeff Kaplan, 845-365-0855