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Rags2BetahRags
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SMNC

I mentioned it before when I first got learning when Glassman gave me some links to look at. When I seen Michael Kelly appointed and with his extensive background in marketing to larger players and the stock at that low I figured it had some potential. I had no financial status behind my choice just a feeling and good guessing and more than a horseshoe I still think it is not done running yet but then again I dont read financials thats why I took this opp to ask you. I wish I could find out how to see them and the shares traded whether they are being dumped or bought up when huge volumes are traded. All i found was L2 for bids ask and sale at what price and time not the info that tells me when everyone is jumping ship.LOL

I have learnt this much though....If it says Reverse Split....STAY AWAY!!

Forward Split Buy it then dump is what I guess but not sure on it either

Thanks and any help you can send my way I appreciate it.I have done one buy and one sell and a second buy so far. Im UP 50%


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I bought it at .01 and .014 and got out at .03 and .034. Remember this and never forget to take a profit or at a min a break even for free shares. I know you are new so untill you are burned a few times you might not understand why I would sell. It is tough to find tops of stocks. Smnc is a special stock that might go up even more.The right news will set it on fire.I thought it would pull back on friday. But most pinks run for 2-4 days and drop just as fast. If ceo is holding as large as predicted it might stay up. I plan on buying back in at .02 if it drops some more. buys were going threw on friday at .037-.038. Most longs hate to hear you are selling they are always holding to .20 or some crazy number. I bet the chances of it hitting .20 are alot less than .02.
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On your level 2 the buys at ask show up as green. The red are at bid.On smnc some decent chuncks 25,000-50,000 blocks were going threw at bid. Most buys were 10,000 and 5,000. I have not broke it down for friday but I think there were more shares sold than bought. If I remember right the vol. was lower also. I was up 150% so I had to pull out. To much money on the table. One reason I am gun shy on it is the 30 mil. day a few weeks ago. If they were to pull profit the could cover up all these small people up and bring it right back down to .015-.016 where they bought. They were pulling some big chuncks 1-2 mill. blocks.

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UNSP
Our business is seasonal. Our sales are typically the strongest commencing in September and continuing through December. If our sales were to be substantially below seasonal norms, then our profitability would be adversely affected.
I would look for a good entry in late aug. News might be coming then. Very low vol. For such a cheap stock. I would be very afraid to go fishing for this one.
Days with no vol. For subsub penny are odd. It might be a shell by now did not look a lot at it.
I will look at
mrmn
vlvt
tfct
udcce
omog
agni
and glvp on sunday

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Lloyd:
I've took some BIG hits lately!
My own fault for taking time off of
trading the last two months. I should of sold every thing, then took time off.
I know you've got your hands full
already, but I was wondering what you think of these?

ZWLL -- ZannWell, Inc.
United Leisure Corporatio (OBB : UTDL)
AUTO-Q INTERNATIONAL INC (OBB : AUTQ)
Eagle Building Techno. (OBB : EGBT)
Quest Products Cp (OBB : QPRC)
Thanks for your time!!


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LL GREAT thread.... sorry about throwing those out without a better splanation. i pulled them off a volume screener that was running. i DD'ed the other half of the results and found NUTTN too. been finding a lot of that lately.
keep up the good work...
check out DMGS....

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Double L, Would you mind looking at PRRM, and ENDE,DFRC,& DRKD I have been watching these and can't make up my mind. Thanks a million! If there is anything this greenhorn can do for you let me know.
Mike
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Originally posted by DOUBLE L:
UNSP
Our business is seasonal. Our sales are typically the strongest commencing in September and continuing through December. If our sales were to be substantially below seasonal norms, then our profitability would be adversely affected.
I would look for a good entry in late aug. News might be coming then. Very low vol. For such a cheap stock. I would be very afraid to go fishing for this one.
Days with no vol. For subsub penny are odd. It might be a shell by now did not look a lot at it.
I will look at
mrmn
vlvt
tfct
udcce
omog
agni
and glvp on sunday


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joeyisthebest
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Double L how about PCCL
thanks

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Poor DoubleL! I feel bad now that his 48 hour weekend just shrunk into 10 hours.

We appreciate all the work your doing this weekend and at least you get to see & hear about all different types of stocks.


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Double,
What about ZKID? made 600 bucks in 1 day, and I going in again at the dip.

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Todays list
mrmn its got to go s-8 sorry will
vlvt
tfct
udcce
omog
agni
glvp
zkid
pccl
drkd
dfrc
ende
prrm
zwll
utdl
autq
egbt
qrrc
dmgs

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great thread DoubleL. learned some stuff here. thx for your hard work.
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quote:
Originally posted by Just Looking:
MLON is my best bet so far.

I agree! As far as getting in before momentum kicks in MLON is a good pick. All the signs are there, accumulation with little move in stock price. Might have to wait on it but it's worth it when you catch it before the move.

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LL wrote:
"mrmn its got to go s-8 sorry will"

Is ok, I saw it too, but hope there was some redeeming indicators somewhere.
Thanks LL, I appreciate it.


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CHARTS AGAIN
VLVT I like the chart on this one 100% could happen with the right news 50% should be in the near future. I will keep it for now.
TFCT I like the chart on this one also.
UDCCE Just no vol. For subpenny stock. I plan on buying $2,000 of a stock I could never get it out if it went up 100%
OMOG I never buy at a high. I know it could break out. If it ever hits .003 I would load up. Looks like support at that area. I see more downside than up right now.
AGNI Is on the downhill slide with some nice pops. I will look into it some more.
GLVP Low vol. But it bounces of .03 often. Huge spread it sits at .05 now. Has to stay on the list.
ZKID I like the chart dropping and a nice rebound with news I assume.
PCCL Somebody will make or lose money on this is they catch it at the bottom. Has to be a ton of shares out trading 200-400 mil. A day. With a ton of shares I would look out for the R/S.
DRKD Chart looks o.k. to make some money. I will look into the company. Subpenny are hard to find bottoms. They are like a lottery ticket I will dd company.
DFRC Same as above.
ENDE I like the chart comes of bottom at .05 and runs to .10 It a keeper for now.
PRRM Another subpenny that has some action. I can not play a lot during the day. The large share count brings concerns of R/S. People make a ton of money on these but they also lose a lot.
ZWLL I hate S-8 for any reason. If the company thinks they are good management does not need 50 mil. Shares EVERY YEAR to stay around.
On June 15, 2004, we filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) a Registration Statement No. 333-116498 on Form S-8, pertaining to our 2004 Employee Stock Incentive Plan and our 2004 Non-Employee Directors and Consultants Retainer Stock Plan. This Post-Effective Amendment No. 1 to our Form S-8 No. 333-116498 is being filed to register the issuance of additional shares pursuant to an increase in the number of shares of common stock available for issuance pursuant to options granted under our 2004 Employee Stock Incentive Plan from 6,000,000 to 186,000,000 and to register the issuance of additional shares pursuant to an increase in the number of shares of common stock and options to purchase common stock available for issuance under our 2004 Non-Employee Directors and Consultants Retainer Stock Plan from 1,500,000 to 21,500,000

UTDL No vol. You might make a little money on it but with very low vol. You might be holding for a while.

AUTQ
On July 30, 2004, the Registrant's board of directors determined that, in view of the Registrant's poor cash position and no immediate prospect of raising adequate financing to sustain operations, that the Registrant's wholly owned UK subsidiary, Auto-Q Solutions Ltd., would cease operations immediately and its assets voluntarily liquidated according to UK law. The creditors of this subsidiary are owed approximately $1,750,000.
Given the decision to discontinue operations of Auto-Q Solutions, Ltd., the Registrant plans to seek out a possible merger candidate. Until such time as such a candidate is located and a merger completed, the Registrant's consolidated group will not generate any revenues.
Effective August 3, 2004, David Hope resigned as Chief Financial Officer and a director of the Registrant.

EGBT No news no vol. Shell play maybe.
QPRC No vol. Or news They have to tell us something. Even bs the ceo lost their car keys. Anything.
DMGS Where is PG WHEN YOU NEED HER. I am going to lunch will look after I get some food in the gut.
This prospectus relates to the sale of up to 10,000,000 shares of Distribution Management Services, Inc.'s ("DMS") common stock by certain persons who are stockholders of DMS and Cornell Capital Partners, L.P. ("Cornell Capital Partners") who is beneficially a stockholder of DMS. Please refer to "Selling Stockholders" beginning on page 13. DMS is not selling any shares of common stock in this offering and therefore will not receive any proceeds from this offering. DMS will, however, receive proceeds from the sale of common stock under the Standby Equity Distribution Agreement which was entered into between DMS and Cornell Capital Partners in February 2004, and no other stockholders. All costs associated with this registration will be borne by DMS. DMS has agreed to allow Cornell Capital Partners to retain 5% of the proceeds raised under the Standby Equity Distribution Agreement as more fully described below.
The shares of common stock are being offered for sale by the selling stockholders at prices established on the Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board during the term of this offering. On June 21, 2004, the last reported sale price of our common stock was $0.03 per share. Our common stock is quoted on the Over- the-Counter Bulletin Board under the symbol "DMGS." These prices will fluctuate based on the demand for the shares of common stock.
The selling stockholders consists of Cornell Capital Partners, who intends to sell up to 9,036,542 shares of common stock under the Standby Equity Distribution Agreement and 757,576 under a convertible debenture (excluding accrued interest), TN Capital Equities, Ltd., who intends to sell up to 117,647 shares of common stock and Butler Gonzalez LP who intends to sell up to 88,235 shares of common stock.
Cornell Capital Partners is an "underwriter" within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 in connection with the sale of common stock under the Standby Equity Distribution Agreement. Cornell Capital Partners will pay DMS 97% of, or a 3% discount to, the lowest closing bid price of the common stock during the five consecutive trading day period immediately following the notice date. In addition, Cornell Capital Partners will retain 5% of each advance under the Standby Equity Distribution Agreement. Cornell Capital Partners is entitled to a one-time commitment fee of $190,000 which is payable by DMS on the third anniversary of the 5% Convertible Debenture for $190,000 dated February 12, 2004 (the "Convertible Debenture") unless previously paid by DMS. Up to $50,000 of principal and accrued interest is convertible by Cornell Capital Partners in its discretion under certain circumstances as more fully described below. The 3% discount, the 5% retainage fee and the one-time commitment fee of $190,000 are underwriting discounts payable to Cornell Capital Partner



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Hi LL, Great List, For the record I run the other way when I see Cornell Capital Partners involved in financing a company. I look back at the companies they have been involved with and it is a who's who of stock that tanked big. They may be OK for a quick day trade. But I wouldn't want to keep my money in one of their financed stocks overnight. That is just my opinion but it is shared by many. -Debi



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The list is narrowed alot so far I have
vlvt
tfct
agni
glvp
zkid
ende
I will look at filings and check out ceo's

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I think VLVT is a long term hold. I'm buying and holding for at least a year!!!
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Hey how do you feel about tfct as a one to two year hold do you see this thing breaking out to maybe $5 in 2 years?
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TFCT
CITY OF INDUSTRY, Calif., Jul 13, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Veltex Corporation (OTC: VLVT), a vertical manufacturing, import and distribution company in the apparel industry that is headquartered with sales and marketing offices in City of Industry, Calif., with factories in Bangladesh, announced today that net sales in the first quarter of 2004 totaled $10.9 million. Net income in the first quarter totaled $857,306.
"We are very encouraged by these profitable results and continue to project that total sales in 2004 will exceed $25 million," said Javeed Matin, Chairman and CEO. Veltex sales in 2003 totaled $19.99 million, Company sales in 2002 totaled $13.9 million, and sales in 2001 were $8.7 million.
Veltex' net income in 2003 was $1.528 million, in 2002 totaled $1.65 million and was $1.3 million in 2001. "Sales have grown from $5.5 million in 1999 to almost $20 million in 2003 under current management," Mr. Matin said.
Veltex Corporation is a vertical manufacturing, import and distribution company composed of three divisions: Veltex Apparel, specializing in caps, apparel and apparel accessories for the Promotional Products Industry; Velvet Textile Mills, specializing in the manufacture of high quality fabrics including velvets, 100% cotton twill, denim, sheeting for consumer and industrial products; and KCA Garment Industries, specializing in the manufacture of garments.
Interesting article from 02 on stock prowler http://www.************.com/previous_picks/9-15-02.html
TFCT a lot of stuff to look at I will spend some time on it latter.
AGNI a lot of stuff to look at.
GLVP
RINGGOLD, Ga., July 15 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Gluv Corp. (OTC Pink Sheets: GLVP - News), a leading leather goods manufacturer and distributor, is pleased to announce the completion of a transaction with Knight Johnson Technologies, Inc. in which Knight Johnson has been granted a license to certain of Gluv Corp.'s technology. As a part of the transaction, Gluv Corp. is reacquiring 36 million shares of its common stock from Knight Johnson. Additionally, Knight Johnson has agreed to assume certain corporate debt/obligations.
According to Lanier M. Davenport, Sr., who replaces Jonathan P. Hoover as the Chairman and President, "I am excited about the opportunity to lead this company in the coming years. Our management team has one simple goal: to build shareholder value. The result of this transaction is a substantial reduction in total shares outstanding from approximately 92 million to 56 million and a reduction in outstanding debt of more than $400,000. Within 30 days, we anticipate relocating our corporate offices to the Atlanta, Georgia metro area. The new management team views the ongoing relationship with Knight Johnson as a key element to our future success in marketing specialty sports products. They are expert manufacturers and our agreement with them allows us the opportunity to market these products without the traditional financial burden associated with manufacturing and warehousing these types of inventory."
About Gluv Corp. and its subsidiaries

ZKID
Insiders are living of this thing and have been for a while bought at .015 and have cashed out all the way down. To many form 4’s. Do they not get paid if not why to do they keep selling shares. They had to have raised share count ceo has 68 mil. And sells a lot. Take out the run to .08 and you have nothing. The ceo sold at .03. I love the idea but why does he not believe in the company? Late filings. I wish I could short pinks.

Ende

The Company is currently in default of a note payable in the amount of $281,458 as of March 31, 2004. The Company is currently exploring its options to work out a settlement with this creditor. Interest is being accrued at the rate of 9%.
The Company also signed a note in September 2003 in the amount of $500,000 with Pine Curtain Production Company that matures June 28, 2004 and accrues interest at the rate of 10% per annum beginning April 28, 2004. The promissory note calls for payment from the pledged saving account once it is released by the letter of credit with Occidental Petroleum.
The aggregate market value of common stock held by non-affiliates of the registrant at March 31, 2004, based upon the last
closing price on the OTCBB on March 31, 2004, was $ 4,500,000. As of March 31, 2004, there were 150,000,000 shares of common stock and
4,393,741 shares of Preferred stock outstanding. The total number of Common shares authorized for the Corporation is
500,000,000. The total number of Preferred shares authorized for the Corporation is 5,000,000.
Transitional Small Business Disclosure Format:
Current Assets Cash
$ 479
500 MIL. IN SHARES AND $479 IN THE BANK. No it’s not in thousands.


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If I thought tfct was going to $5.00 in two years I would sell everything I own buy it and live on the beach collecting shells for two years. Then come back and buy me a pink sheet stock and play games with you guys.
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what do you think about hpon and gamx

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osubucks30: vlvt
I would try to build free shares by buying at .01 and selling .014(news). Save some cash to ave. down if you need to. They have put out good news for a few years and investors do not like them alot (share price). If you could play the 40% a few times and then hit them for 100% on the free shares. I have never liked the idea of long term investing on pinks. I just use them not marry them. Even though I have started playing more money on each and it seems like I am long term with a few I like that have a bottom to them.

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HPON
I like this if it happens.
IRVINE, Calif., Jun 23, 2004 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Hop-on, Inc. (OTC: HPON), the leading developer of disposable and fully recyclable cell phones and wireless accessories, today announced that it intends to release audited financials for the fiscal year ended December 31, 2003, when it holds its annual shareholders' meeting the week of September 20, 2004. In addition, the Company plans to file audited financials with the Securities and Exchange Commission for 2004.
Dan Gannon, Chief Executive Officer of Hop-on, commented, "We look forward to meeting with our shareholders in person and updating them on the company's business plan, innovative new phones and accessories, global sales initiatives, and prospects for continued growth. The significant progress in our business, combined with the high level of interest we continue to see and analyst estimates, validates our belief that low priced handsets represent a very large market opportunity worldwide. Consumers are now comfortable with the pre-pay model and Hop-on is positioned to benefit from expected growth going forward."

Chart looks downhill you might look for added vol. A week or two before sept. 30 for leaks in financials. I would think a friendly reminder is in order on sept.6th and the 13th. I might put a .01 order in on mon. GTC JUST TO REMIND ME.

GAMX I like a charts that waves at me I would try to buy at .015 -.018 and play the standard 30% on news If you are holding when big news hits go for more.


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The final list
TFCT
VLVT
AGNI
GLVP

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Here is my plan. Do more dd on these 3 and put a buy in at the listed price on mon.
VLVT .009 TRY TO SELL .013
GLVP Try for .03 might sit for a while sell .05
hpon .01 small amount and then watch vol. in sept. wait for financials and decide on sell.
Thanks for all the help from everyone. Just because I do not like it does not mean it will not blow the doors of my picks. Just don't rub it in. Two other stocks I like are tpbv and ktel. I have alot of these and am buying more.

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Lloyd:
Thank You for taking the time to do this
for us!!

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DoubleL; I e-mailed ENDE's ceo Dick Boyce about the info you provided and was supplied with a very good answer.Please tell me what you think of this.

Mike:

When we took control of the Company two years ago, former management had not paid bills, had signed various leases and defaulted on them, had stiffed employees for salaries, and had not paid IRS employment withholding taxes--- and left about $900 in the bank account that they obviously did not know was there or they would have stolen that too.

During the first year of our involvement (2002-2003), most of our time was spent in answering irate telephone calls, nasty letters from various lawyers, angry shareholders and dealing with court judgments that various creditors had won against the company who had been avoiding various creditors for years. There was over $5 million in debt levied against the company and there were no real assets. John Adair even tried to force the company into involuntary bankruptcy claiming that he was the largest unsecured creditor of the Company due to non paid salary--after we fired him for his fraudulent mismanagement of the company. Enough whining!

Bottom line is that we have spent considerable time in negotiating with several of the largest creditors who hold judgements against the company and all have settled for about .50 on the dollar. The first of those is in the amount of $281,458 which is to be paid to a power engineering consultant in Virginia that sued and won a judgment against the company for an unpaid consulting bill of over $450,000. This was for work commissioned by John W. Adair that never led to any useful end for the company. We keep in close contact with that lawyer and they will be paid as soon as we get our stock price up, reverse split, register common shares for sale with an S-3 registration statement with the SEC--then we can sell common stock to raise the necessary funds to pay this debt. The company as a whole carries about $1 million in debt that is all in about the same state. Pending our ability to finally sell stock again, we will get these people paid off by selling some stock after the reverse split (see discussion below).

The promissory note to Pine Curtain was for the option to participate in the Eugene Island 294 project in the Gulf of Mexico. We have already paid off this note using the funds which were held in escrow by our former partner in Yemen Block 20--Occidental Petroleum. Those funds (approximately $700,000) were returned as a result of our settlement conditions with Occidental, once we had lost our interest in Block 20 as a result of an international arbitration in Paris. This settlement with Occidental also allowed us to remove over $4,000,000 in debt owed to Occidental due to the default by former managment of that project. Eugene Island 294 is a very sound low risk drilling venture and we are very close to raising sufficent capital through a private placement of our restricted stock to participate in drilling some new wells on that platform, which if successful, will provide near term cash flow. We hope that drilling can commence this fall.

When we gained control of the Company back in 2002, former management had issued all authorized common shares of stock (150 million shares) and had left nothing but debt to show for the sale of all of this stock. This of course is the basis for the proxy battle run by the SCORE Group, Inc.

In order for the Company to ever have a chance to move forward, it was necessary to have the shareholders authorize additional shares of common stock that could ultimately be issued by the Company treasury. That number was authorized at 500 million shares at last year's Annual Meeting. However, our total outstanding shares of common stock today is about 180 million (not 500 million) as you might have thought from this disclosure statement.

Again, since all authorized common stock of the company was already issued, our managment team did not have any money, any assets, any common stock to sell in order to raise capital to run the company. The only capital asset left in the company was 5 million shares of prefered stock. The Board of Directors authorized that this stock be set with a value of $1.00 per share and with voting and conversion rights into common stock of 1:1,000 (one pref share converts into 1000 common shares and gets 1000 votes in a shareholders election). At the time this decision was made our common stock was selling for $0.01 --thus the conversion rate of 1000:1 into common stock.

Since that time, the Company has issued approximately 4.8 million of those pref shares to various employees and closely held business partners in order to secure the various projects that the Company is now working on. At some time in the future those shares (at the option of the holder) can be converted into common stock--but only at such time as sufficent common shares are actually available for the conversion. If you do your math, you will notice that the 4.8 million pref shares convert into 4.8 billion common shares. This of course is well above the 500 million common shares authorized by the shareholders of the company. So you might ask--what the hell is all of this about and what does it mean to a shareholder?

Essentially this brings us to the need to conduct a reverse split of ENDE stock. If you read over the discussion of the reverse split in last years proxy statement, you will note that all shares, both common and preferred will reverse split on the same ratio. If we make an assumption that we reverse split the stock at a price of $0.25/share the reverse split ratio becomes 28:1 (twenty eight old shares becomes one new share). Divide $7.00 by $0.25 and get a ratio of 28:1.

This means that post reverse split:
180,000,000 old common shares (outstanding) becomes 6,428,571 new common shares. [ Divide 180,000,000 by 28.]
4.8 million old pref shares (converting to 4.8 billion common shares) becomes 171,428,571 new common shares. [ Divide 4,800,000,000 by 28.]

This means the new total outstanding amount of stock in the corporation is 177,857,142 common shares (assuming all pref shares have converted into common shares) which can be then multiplied by $7.00/share to derive a market capitalization measure of $1,245,000,000. Yes, that is $1.245 billion dollars in market capitalization.

This means that existing common shareholders will retain about 3.6% of the company while the current preferred shareholders will own 96.4% of the company. The current preferred shareholders are a very small group of people, including myself, who have invested the sweat, brains and will power to bring us all to this point. They have all been in this business venture for the long haul and have no intention of cashing in to make the quick buck after the reverse split.

Some will say that this represents massive dilution of the shareholders. However, the alternative was to declare bankruptcy which would have wiped out all existing shareholder value. We think this actually represents a rare opportunity for an investor such as yourself.

Think of it this way. After the reverse split, there wil be 177 million shares issued and outstanding (in a company with the project portfolio that you have already seen in our brochure--which is still confidential by the way.) However 171 million of those shares are held by the insiders of the company and will not be traded or sold in the open market. The actual float of shares available for trading in the open market will only be the 6.4 million shares currently held by our common stock shareholders. Our stock price is a function of the supply and demand for the stock in the open market. There will be a very limited supply and it is up to company managment to create the demand for the stock by providing good news about our projects, financing for those projects and finding oil and gas to add to our balance sheet. We are very close to reporting success on all of those fronts. It is our control over how much new stock is in the market combined with the types of real projects that the company is engaging in that will support our stock price to move north from $7.00 to something that is representative of a company with a market capitalization like ENDE will have at that time. The real added value will of course take some time--projects will have to have some success and our balance sheet will have to be showing proper fundamentals for a period of time (1-2 years?) before the market will truly believe that we are a real company.

After the reverse split, we will qualify to move to the NASDAQ National Marketing System. Since the stock price will be about $7.00 at that time, ENDE stock will be handled by reputable market makers and the large brokerage houses like Merrill Lynch, Solomon Smith Barney and the like will be able to represent this stock to their customers. The stock can then be margined and is then something that can be found in institutional portfolios. This will bring a certain level of stability to our stock price that is impossible as long as we remain on the Bulletin Board and subject to the lax rules in that environment.

I just got your message about the price per share in the short term. Our plan there is to begin announcing financing and projects during September. We are going to have to rely on sustained buying during that time to dry up the availability of shares in the open market which will cause the price in the open market to raise up.

I'll try to call you this week and we can discuss how that might happen.

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Best advice: Put your money into a money market account. Do not buy any stocks for the next few months. The market is turning very very sour. I would only do paper trades (pretend trades) Best of luck . Just thanks me later.

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Lumik ask him if you can buy preferd shares. They cost 1.00 and at a share price of .05 worth 1,000 reg shares. They should cost 50.00. I will do some more reading this afternoon on this one. I still have not had my first cup of coffee.

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This means that existing common shareholders will retain about 3.6% of the company while the current preferred shareholders will own 96.4% of the company. The current preferred shareholders are a very small group of people, including myself, who have invested the sweat, brains and will power to bring us all to this point. They have all been in this business venture for the long haul and have no intention of cashing in to make the quick buck after the reverse split.

Some will say that this represents massive dilution of the shareholders. However, the alternative was to declare bankruptcy which would have wiped out all existing shareholder value. We think this actually represents a rare opportunity for an investor such as yourself.


I just got your message about the price per share in the short term. Our plan there is to begin announcing financing and projects during September. We are going to have to rely on sustained buying during that time to dry up the availability of shares in the open market which will cause the price in the open market to raise up.

This means that existing common shareholders will retain about 3.6% of the company while the current preferred shareholders will own 96.4% of the company. The 180 mil. shares are worth 3% of the company. Do you see how you are supporting the company untill they r/s and then they own 97%. And all this depends on your are faithfull supports to buy more shares.
We are going to have to rely on sustained buying during that time to dry up the availability of shares in the open market which will cause the price in the open market to raise up.
What happens if the price stays at .05 or lower is the planned r/s a 100 to 1. Or do we do a 1,000 for 1 because it is .03.
Do WHAT YOU THINK YOU NEED TO DO. The ceo says to me help us and you get 3%


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DoubleL; just waiting for a reply about the prefered shares. Could you take a good look at V.NAU this junior gold company looks to have it all,and is supposed to move on the next/first drill report from Sweden.

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Lumik ask him if you can buy preferd shares. They cost 1.00 and at a share price of .05 worth 1,000 reg shares. They should cost 50.00. I will do some more reading this afternoon on this one. I still have not had my first cup of coffee.

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That's the best advice I've seen for awhile! Just wish I'd seen it earlier. LOL
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Best advice: Put your money into a money market account. Do not buy any stocks for the next few months. The market is turning very very sour. I would only do paper trades (pretend trades) Best of luck . Just thanks me later.

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Just looking; You would become bored!
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That's the best advice I've seen for awhile! Just wish I'd seen it earlier. LOL


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Dammit! You're right! LOL

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Just looking; You would become bored!


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