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Sounds like a more likely explanation then the one given in the post previous to yours. I don't think there is 786 trillion, I am assuming you are talking about O/S. I made a guess at 22 billion one time, but 786 trillion, seems exessive, lol.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Probably shouldn't have posted that. That was pretty darn close to bashing. Sorry.
quote:Originally posted by will: No one wants to answer this question regarding why wait to publish the results of the share count?
I've answered your question and it is the true answer. This company along with their lawyers are going to bury the mm's who have been shorting this company. Be patient and you will see it happen. So go eat some raw eggs and get a grip.
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LOL. I don't think that one would qualify as bashing.
I will add that the question about why wait isn't really a valid question because nobody really knows if the audit is complete and if it is, nobody but Urban and his law firm would know the answer to that. Although I'm pretty sure most people on this board are familiar with the concept of a strategically timed PR. Just my thought. Have a good night.
Kev
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Probably shouldn't have posted that. That was pretty darn close to bashing. Sorry.
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With all due respect , pharm, I can't buy into that. Law firms usually issue a cease and disist type letter, like a shot over the bow first. To know someone is going to hang, and going out to buy new rope and practice your knots, doean't seem like a typical professional legal type move.
quote:Originally posted by pharmdman: will, I'm just guessing here. But.... if you were going to try to hang the MM's for naked shorting your company, would you release that type of info or would you let your new law firm go on the attack first? Just food for thought. I don't know if that's what is happening, but it's certainly a possibility. JMHO though.
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OK can you tell me how long they have been doing the share count, and how long you would expect it to take? Seems like information that might have been in the PR that announced a share count. I know if I hire someone to do something for me, I ask how long before the job is completed? Sorry, that should have been a reply to: I will add that the question about why wait isn't really a valid question because nobody really knows if the audit is complete and if it is, nobody but Urban and his law firm would know the answer to that. Although I'm pretty sure most people on this board are familiar with the concept of a strategically timed PR. Just my thought. Have a good night.
Kev
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quote:Originally posted by will: OK can you tell me how long they have been doing the share count, and how long you would expect it o take? Seems like information that might have been in the PR that announced a share count. I know if I hire someone to do something for, I ask how long before the job is completed?
Go find something else to do. You are beating on a dead horse. You even question a question. Get lost. No one is buying your b.s., so just move on and go where you are appreciated.
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Excuse me. I think that is a legitimate question. I am exactly where I belong. It isn't a dead horse, the question of being forthright and forthcoming goes right to the character of this company. Answer the question with some logical explanation and stop the personal attacks.
quote:Originally posted by gorforit72545: Go find something else to do. You are beating on a dead horse. You even question a question. Get lost. No one is buying your b.s., so just move on and go where you are appreciated.
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UC's a smart guy. He knew what the share count was before he hired the work done. He knows, because he issued them. He only wants to prove how much it has been shorted by the MM's. Personally I think he bought back all of the OS while they were at .0001 and is only looking for someone to testify to the truth of that.
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quote:Originally posted by will: With all due respect , pharm, I can't buy into that. Law firms usually issue a cease and disist type letter, like a shot over the bow first. To know someone is going to hang, and going out to buy new rope and practice your knots, doean't seem like a typical professional legal type move.
will, how do you know that such letters haven't been sent? Just because they haven't said so in a PR doesn't mean that it's not reality. I'm sure the MM's aren't going to announce receiving such a thing. The other scenario is that the MM's haven't been sent anything, and that the law firm is directly addressing the SEC as to why this is being allowed to continue. There could be more folks on the hook than we realize. Yet another scenario is that this is a scam. I do not believe that this is the case, but those who do should cut their losses and call it a day. You may be right, you may be wrong, but you asked and I answered what I thought.
People like to be kept in the loop, but that's not always the case. Speculation runs rampant and people believe that if it something is true, then it will be announced. The most famous example is Roswell, AZ - July 1947. Almost 58 years have passed and still nobody knows for sure.
Either way, I'm still praying for diamonds the size of my head. I'm' no John Goodman, but i have a pretty good sized head.
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"UC's a smart guy. He knew what the share count was before he hired the work done. He knows, because he issued them. He only wants to prove how much it has been shorted by the MM's. Personally I think he bought back all of the OS while they were at .0001 and is only looking for someone to testify to the truth of that."
I understand, I am referring to the amount of counterfit shares being exposed.
Pharm: I understand, but would it not benefit them more to make certain facts public and stop the speculation?
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Uhm stupid question I guess, but how do you short .0001?????????
quote:Originally posted by gorforit72545: I've answered your question and it is the true answer. This company along with their lawyers are going to bury the mm's who have been shorting this company. Be patient and you will see it happen. So go eat some raw eggs and get a grip.
quote:Originally posted by will: Pharm: I understand, but would it not benefit them more to make certain facts public and stop the speculation?
I understand your thought, but I think the more important issue is exposing the MM's redhanded as well as the SEC for doing absolutely nothing to stop it. In my opinion, that is worth more than stopping speculation. Especially if my name was UC and I was sitting on diamonds. Announcing a share count of 786 trillion or a share count of 0 would send everyone on a selling frenzy, thus allowing the MM's to buy their way out of the mess they've created; illegally, I might add. The speculation is still keeping the hope and the interest alive. Sure some are taking profits, but many are trying to get in "while it's still low", thus letting the MM's bury themselves even more.
Personally, I'm hoping for fantastic news soon and a pps to match. Then I'll buy you a beer in Vegas and we'll laugh about it.
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Look let me clear this up a bit. I am not looking to sell, but I am not looking to get my patience tested like Job either. Does it not concern "you" that the companies PR's are delibrately ambiguous? The PR about finding diamonds in the sample, very little deatial, we were led to believe by Melvin it was a huge find, later we learned from a partnered company it was two micro diamonds. The Pr regarding Edwards & Angell going to work with CMKX. Very sketchy what they were working on. Problems that have faced this company. I am only saying I think it helps their positions by making them more believable if they are forthcoming, and it also buys investor loyality. I really think this should be important to someone holding a position in CMKX.
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After much thought about the same questions, I can only tell you this. I believe that the PR's are intentionally ambiguous for a reason. They could announce 50,000 one carat diamonds per cubic foot, and as long as the naked short selling continues, the pps stays the same.
I read this sometime ago on here. The thought is not mine, but I agree with it. I also apologize in advance for not quoting who posted it, but I do not remember. I'm paraphrasing, but here goes: Releasing too much information too quickly causes large spikes in the pps as panic buyers and profit takers pounce. These spikes panic too many investors and may harm the company in the long term. Releasing small bits of information in a controlled manner reduced these spikes and lends credibility to buying this stock as a long term hold.
I'm not sure if you'd agree, but if not I'd certainly like to know why you don't. It would give me something else to add into the equation. You may present something that I haven't previously considered.
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It is a penny stock, true. They are driven by news, true. No doubt there will be price spikes, don't all the pennies? This isn't a slow growth large cap fund, it is a penny. They are played to position oneself with free shares, and daytraded, swing traded, for profits, it is how this game is played. They are not longterm investments. If it is true that the value of the company is, ( pick a number, millions, billions ???), in the end it will assigned that value through supply and demand. Value is value in the end, why be ambiguous, political, evassive when being forthcoming would get you to the desired end faster.
quote:Originally posted by pharmdman: After much thought about the same questions, I can only tell you this. I believe that the PR's are intentionally ambiguous for a reason. They could announce 50,000 one carat diamonds per cubic foot, and as long as the naked short selling continues, the pps stays the same.
I read this sometime ago on here. The thought is not mine, but I agree with it. I also apologize in advance for not quoting who posted it, but I do not remember. I'm paraphrasing, but here goes: Releasing too much information too quickly causes large spikes in the pps as panic buyers and profit takers pounce. These spikes panic too many investors and may harm the company in the long term. Releasing small bits of information in a controlled manner reduced these spikes and lends credibility to buying this stock as a long term hold.
I'm not sure if you'd agree, but if not I'd certainly like to know why you don't. It would give me something else to add into the equation. You may present something that I haven't previously considered.
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Too much bad info too fast I would aggree, but too much good info? And once again until a week and a half ago they would have been shorting .0001 pps, I think not. In order to trade 4 billion + shares in a day I am scared to predict what the O/S might amount to. If you where here back in feb. you would have seen alot of very negative information, I will look for it and try to post. One major issue is drive down to the office and check it out, at last report it was in a strip center and no one was around 4 out of 5 days. I got in and out of this stock many times riding it from .0001-.0002 but at the new levels you can get burned really hard.
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quote:Originally posted by will: ... If it is true that the value of the company is, ( pick a number, millions, billions ???), in the end it will assigned that value through supply and demand...
will, that is my point exactly. Supply vs. Demand. So, if the supply is UNLIMITED (naked short selling continues), then demand means nothing!... The share price will remain very low. Think of it as a fraction with infinity on the bottom. Whether the top number is 1 or 1,000,000,000, the result is still virtually zero.
True. Penny stocks are traded just like you say. But companies don't aspire to be penny stocks, they aspire to be long-term, highly-valued companies. That's where the long term aspects apply. You don't develop your business plan to appease day-traders. So why would UC?
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Oilman, to answer your question... yes, too much good information too quickly can be harmful; causes spikey charts. Spikey charts will frighten many investors.
Would you rather invest in this chart
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Swing traders will prefer #1, but most investors want #2 so they can watch their money grow.
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I only ask because I see the ambiguity and speculation as a distraction. When someone purposely tries to distract me, I have to ask, WHY, what is really going on, what happened, what will happen? That answer could be good or bad. I only ask to make people think just whatelse might be happening here. It might be a product of my impatience, my inexperience with this type of situation, my need for instant grtification ??? On the other hand if people do think, and offer possibilities of what might be happening I am usually the first one to think it's nonsense, lol. Maybe I want too much to fast.
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will, totally understandable... from one impatient person to another. On one hand I'm totally p\ssed that I haven't retired from CMKX yet, and on the other hand.. oh who am I kidding, I'm p\ssed there too...LOL
It's taken me a while to be able to deal with the ambiguity of it all, but hang in there. See what the next PR brings. My guess is we'll all be disappointed and will have wanted more, but that's the way it goes. I'm not selling until they say, "oops, sorry... we meant NO diamonds in all those PR's".. then I'm headed to Canada with a gun.
I, too, want this to happen overnight, but it just won't play out that way. That's ok, if I have to wait, I'll wait.
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No, no, pharm, I believe there is diamonds, I hope a lot of them. My thoghts are who is and how are the cards being shuffled? Will I have a seat when the music stops? Does Urban care about anyone but Urban, how/what is he doing to feather his bed and let me sleep on the ground? Maybe he truly does care about investors, however, it is my first reaction to think he says, hurray for Urban, and f*ck you.
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quote:Originally posted by will: No, no, pharm, I believe there is diamonds, I hope a lot of them. My thoghts are who is and how are the cards being shuffled? Will I have a seat when the music stops? Does Urban care about anyone but Urban, how/what is he doing to feather his bed and let me sleep on the ground? Maybe he truly does care about investors, however, it is my first reaction to think he says, hurray for Urban, and f*ck you.
will, I'm with you on this point. I think it's UC first, investors second. I have no doubt about human nature. But. once the naked shorting thing is exposed/stopped, if he profits, we profit. Level playing field then. That's what I'm waiting for.
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I have some thoughts before I retire for tonight. I have owned this stock since last August. I have not wavered a bit. This has been a fun ride and I would not trade it for anything. I have turned a $400 investment that I only did for fun into $5600 plus whatever the CMI shares might be worth someday if anything........
If CMKM does not get on the OTC Board or better by the 23rd I wonder what might happen. There has much speculation on this possibility and without that happening, we could see a possible collapse......
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A merger to the OTC seems logical. How would that play out? You can tell me tomorrow, because I am going to bed, good night.
quote:Originally posted by Power106: I have some thoughts before I retire for tonight. I have owned this stock since last August. I have not wavered a bit. This has been a fun ride and I would not trade it for anything. I have turned a $400 investment that I only did for fun into $5600 plus whatever the CMI shares might be worth someday if anything........
If CMKM does not get on the OTC Board or better by the 23rd I wonder what might happen. There has much speculation on this possibility and without that happening, we could see a possible collapse......
quote:Originally posted by OilMan: Uhm stupid question I guess, but how do you short .0001?????????
Back when the PPS was flat lined @ .0001 you could not sell @ .0001 you could only buy. some one in the thread befor this did a dumy sell for 240,000 or was it 400,000 shares @ Market and it went through @ .00005 this was a test back then when GTC orders were @ .0001 and never being filled..*!* So the MM's were doubleing there money every time!
quote:Originally posted by will: Excuse me. I think that is a legitimate question. I am exactly where I belong. It isn't a dead horse, the question of being forthright and forthcoming goes right to the character of this company. Answer the question with some logical explanation and stop the personal attacks.
Like I said get lost. We don't need your negativity on this board and that is all you are. Mr negative.
First post, Rob in Long Island. I call into IBC RADIO from time to time, Professional Investor etc etc etc Hello All! Gonna try and keep this short and to the point as much as possible. Im gonna cover some ground you don’t want to hear which is the day in general and some stuff on CMKX, keep in mind we hung out with them for most of the day having a great time , great great people! I was at Englishtown NJ ALL DAY left my house 5:30am. Went with a buddy of mine who knows racing, put the top down and had some fun! Ok Jeff made it into today raced well this weekend, Lost today to John Force. Great guy got some pictures with Jeff our driver, Ron Casavant who is Urbans brother, He takes care of the drilling end of things, Connie Cohen who will be racing/driving Our newest addition a Pro Stock Suzuki Bike! And the whole CMKX team. I met up with Fatboy from the official CMKX message boards, smart fun investor enjoyed his company, and the very pretty Ines, yes Ines from the official CMKX message boards. She was a trip, lots a laughs! Ron gave us some free hats , free drinks and free food. I will try and post some pictures for all to see, got some good ones! Had a great great time with them all! Had to cover the above ground and show thanks to them and give them the same respect they gave me! They are caring people, they are tough people, they DO visit hospitals and children in every city they go too!
Urban was away on business, I think this might be standard thing right now, keeping a lower profile maybe since lawyer came on board and things are now at critical mass lets say. Let me clear up one rumor, we do have claims that Debeers tried to re claim but we beat them to it! How it’s a long story call the company for details talk to anyone they all Were involved, tough bunch a savvy people we have let me tell you! So we have some PREMO claims, that actually do surround and butt up against Debeers, our next drill site is gonna be interesting, lets just say will be working very close very close to our competition. We do have valuable ZINC deposits worth MONEY! We do have multiple Parties financially backing CMKX, we are going to be a listed company very shortly, very soon. On the otcbb on the amex on the naz I’m not sure which one, Are we involved in a MERGER? I got a smile and a I cant comment on that. Share structure is coming our way very very soon, and like I said dilution has NOT occurred because of the financial backing we have from various parties. Does CMKX think there is a NAKED SHORT problem yes they do, are shorts covering and will they have to keep covering yes they will! Ariel survey done! Non magnetic pipes found which could not have been found with previous technology YES! Are they substantial size yes. Do they have plains on mining yep, open pit type, Are the y going to the next step in sampling yep, bulk sampling, would a value be put on the claim after bulk sampling yes. Some of our claims Sit on top of the same pipes as Debeers, is it possible were on a better portion of the pipe then Debeers YEP like I said we have some premo claims that we work our butts off to get. Gotta here Ron tell ya about what you could have to go thru to get your hands on some of these claims, amazing! Did the Geologist find our core samples to be the best, or Some of the best he has ever seen, YEP, do we have the results back from those particular samples back yet NOPE. :?) Are they confident you bet they are, how did CMKX get their hands on so many claims cover much more then the 1.4 million acres We hear about, by hard time consuming work and patience over a long period of time. Is the next drill site a joint venture I don’t think so I think 100% ours, it is expected to be a very lucrative spot, for various reasons as we will find out. :?) Is our Lawyer on board To help with various things that are positive YEP! IS their a negative reason the Lawyer Has been brought on like some speculated, no. Could something arise maybe, If you’re a growing company in a multi billion dollar industry things could come up, SO WHY NOT HIRE THE BEST! Do I think Urban sold claims next to DeBeers to raise money NOPE. Urban what’s those strategic claims which imho have huge value. Could he have some other kind of claims sold or other agreements in place for raising capital INSTEAD of dilution YES, Dilution is important topic here so I will stress I don’t think there was any dilution guys, If that is correct were in for a hell of a ride, NAKED SHORT CITY. Just Way way to much VOLUME traded it was OBVIOUS to the company they were trying To be run into the ground, Do I believe someone could have tried or wanted to try a hostile takeover sure of course, why not, buy the company hold the claims keeps the competition away. It seems CMKX has to have money coming from multiple sources, Large investor group on board, funding operations prior to drilling going back to Buy back etc etc. Trying to put some pieces together for you here, Its sometimes Awkward trying to fill in the big picture, But its all coming together imho and the PR’s Will put all the pieces together for us :?)
Now all of the above is IMHO you can ADD IMHO after or inside EVERY SENTENCE. Some things I danced around some things I touched on some things I lead the defendant LOL. You know what I mean.
What do I think, EXCITING TIMES RIGHT NOW for CMKX. These are what I see as PR’s we will see not over the coming months but over The coming WEEKS, IMHO.
Share structure. Core samples. Listed company. Short squeeze. More drilling. Ariel Survey. Merger. More funding. More Equipment, more employees.
DID I DRILL THEM WITH QUESTIONS YEP! Could I go on YEP. Did they mind NOT AT ALL, gave me and my friends a ride out to gate On a golf type Cart end of the night, They are as EXCITED as we are! These people are savvy passionate hard working genuine smart kind hearted. Like everyone has said ya fall in love with these people. They got what it takes Imho to be very successful, they got the goods, Certain people just have success Written on them when ya meet them and I think The CMKX FAMILY has it!
I’m not gonna bull****t ya, does it take 1 to 2 years to start mining , yes it does, Can you make fortune way before any mine is mined YES YOU CAN and I think I will , see those potential PR’s I talked about over the coming WEEKS, THAT’S MONEY PEOPLE! Can things go wrong yes they can, I’m not living in a fantasy, There Is big money at stake and it’s a dog eat dog industry, do I know all of the hurdles no Im not a expert in the mining business, but Im still 100% invested in CMKX and think I go tmy money in the right place at the right time.
SO I tried to be very fair and balanced mentioning some of the risks as well as the positives, because people say if it was so great why .0006 so I gave some reasons as to why people are sitting on the sidelines and what’s to come and ya know IMHO when everything plays out like I think it will IT WILL be to LATE TO JUMP in, It will cost you a whole lot more money per share!
There is just so much we covered I’m sure I missed some stuff look for info posted from other people that were there over the weekend.
Did I give you a lot of new INFO NOPE, did I confirm a lot of rumors running around yes I think I received sufficient information to believe what I posted above. Was this written well no, do I use “gonna” to often instead of “going to” yes I realize that. LOL Hope ya (you) can get thru this long winding road. :?) Sincerely, Rob Guys a few more things,
Does CMKX believe we will see a appreciation in PRICE in the near term, YES. Rumor .61 by sept..............................nobody knows but is it possible. YES Joel , also imho could be a member of this what I will call Large Investor Group with funding money. Do I know anything about Uranium or Gold involvment and CMKX mining it or partners mining it no sorry could only think of so much at the time, is it possible , sure is! Do I think some of the stories are hype on the boards, NOPE. Do I think Sterling is a dreamer. NOPE. Do I think CMKX put all this together themselves YES, VERY SMART PEOPLE. Down to Earth Smart People. Am I as excited as I was before about short term prospects. YEP. Long term price projections LOL , I suggest YES if you need to take some profits on major run ups in the near term YOU BETTER HOLD SOME ALSO FOR THE LONG HAULE, Its almost inevitable imho from what I can tell, we are well on our way to multiple MULTIPLE MINING DIGS, OPEN PIT MINING. Do I think we have aopen pit mine now. No Would they tell me if they did, not sure but I would think if they did yes they would have told us.
Can you post these two emails on the FMDAY message board and other boards sure go ahead, Its all of what I got out of our conversations and is all IMHO.
Keep in mind their will always be pumpers and bashers on all stocks, is CMKX a legit play long, med and short term yep! So dont get distracted have aplan layed out, a timeframe, maybe a series of events, take some profits at some point where your comfortable and keep a portionor large portion for some serious paydays!
Stay focused on short term expected events, one day at a time, and lets see hwo this unfolds, Seems like if all there indicating to us is true, we should see some serious price appreciation no doubt about it. Like I mentioned this is a WAR, CMKX feels there is a large short position that the MM;s WILL BE FORCED TO COVER very very soon and there is no way out, there gonna have to move the share price up! LETS HOPE SO, that would be special imho! :?)
Sincerely,
"Million Dollar Man".............LOL. Im still thinking with the amount of shares Im holding a little patience will reward me with a 7 figure return on Investment. Sounds crazy I know, but it happens, maybe Im next in line. ;?)
quote:Originally posted by pharmdman: I believe that the PR's are intentionally ambiguous for a reason. They could announce 50,000 one carat diamonds per cubic foot, and as long as the naked short selling continues, the pps stays the same.
Yeah, what pharm said.
OK, how about this:
Timing is everything. CMKX isn't ready to shout from the highest mountain the news about their find of the century. They are still getting their ducks in a row.
They released the "Diamondiferous" PR, which unexpectedly halted their partners' stock. The partners needed a similiar PR in Canada, so they could resume trading. So CMKX said, "Fine, tell 'em about the sample with the 2 micros in it. That'll at least be good enough to get you guys trading again."
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