quote:Originally posted by mizzou7: I have a buy order in at .0002
Without something big... soon, we will re-visit .0001 /.0002
I agree. I think this news is what a lot of folks were holding out for today and did not tell us anything that we didn’t already know. This will probably pull back some tomorrow as a result. I would consider getting back in at .0001/.0002 … maybe .0003. I need some more solid evidence that they have diamonds that can be mined to get in any higher.
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Well, from Doji, to you we have a wide gap of the value of the value PR. I think Upside got it right alluding to it being ambiguous. So, either you and/or Doji can be right. lol That seems to be the nature of their PR's. I have read other OR's concerning findings of drill samples, and they were much more detailed then CMKX's. It almost makes me believe it is done purposely, then if anything goes wrong they can put Marvin on that radio station to stutter and stammer dwnials.
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If you really read this thing, where is the mention of working towards the goal of an OTCBB listing? It's not there. It states that they are working towards "complying fully with all restrictions on it". And what would those requirements be? They're a pink sheet company for crying out loud! They have no requirements! Then it states that they are working towards resolving the problems the company has been facing and devoting "significant efforts immediately towards that goal". What problems would those be? Bankruptcy? Leaving the country before all of the class action lawsuits hit? This is a horrible p/r but you know what? It will probably send the pps up tomorrow. Unbelievable.
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Edwards & Angell has nothing to do with "more solid evidence that they have diamonds that can be mined". I think they will be working on share structure, naked shorting, and becoming a repoerting company. We have two issues here, the legitimizing of the company, and the diamond finds. The former can raise the PPS some, but the latter is the rocket fuel here.
quote:Originally posted by booboo: I agree. I think this news is what a lot of folks were holding out for today and did not tell us anything that we didn’t already know. This will probably pull back some tomorrow as a result. I would consider getting back in at .0001/.0002 … maybe .0003. I need some more solid evidence that they have diamonds that can be mined to get in any higher.
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Well, I have a positive take on the PR-surprise, surprise. I would say the main problem the company has been facing is the Naked short issue. We know they want to be areporting company and change transfer agents. I think the PR is deliberately ambiguous and when they are ready to file their papers which they are immediately giving their attention to we will have answers to many of our questions. How many shares outstanding? What is the Naked Short Share position? What is the value of the kimberlite pipes we have lab samples returned on? What does the lab report say? Who is partnering with us, what percentages? And hopefully more. I think if there is a Mount Saint Helens PR it will be the follow up when we are going on a new exchange. I did get some more today at .0005. I wish I bought more. I don't see this going down on this PR. GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi
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quote:Originally posted by will: Edwards & Angell has nothing to do with "more solid evidence that they have diamonds that can be mined". I think they will be working on share structure, naked shorting, and becoming a repoerting company. We have two issues here, the legitimizing of the company, and the diamond finds. The former can raise the PPS some, but the latter is the rocket fuel here.
I agree 100% with that. However, cmkx purpose is to find diamonds that can be mined for profit. Until this happens the pps is not going to rocket up like everyone is hoping. Until that pr is out it will just move between .0001 - .001 on vague pr and hype.
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UpMan: How am I ever going to teach you to be fair and balanced. Don't you think you are taking the glass is EMPTY view of that PR? I will admit ambiguity, but leaving the country, lol, c'mon now, man.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: If you really read this thing, where is the mention of working towards the goal of an OTCBB listing? It's not there. It states that they are working towards "complying fully with all restrictions on it". And what would those requirements be? They're a pink sheet company for crying out loud! They have no requirements! Then it states that they are working towards resolving the problems the company has been facing and devoting "significant efforts immediately towards that goal". What problems would those be? Bankruptcy? Leaving the country before all of the class action lawsuits hit? This is a horrible p/r but you know what? It will probably send the pps up tomorrow. Unbelievable.
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Deb, I respect your optimism, but I think that's twice now I read you saying "delibrately ambiguous" Why should they HAVE to ambiguous? Why not be forthright, and forthcoming with accurate detailed news? Do you really think every PR is a play in a poker hand here?
quote:Originally posted by WWJD-thru-me: Well, I have a positive take on the PR-surprise, surprise. I would say the main problem the company has been facing is the Naked short issue. We know they want to be areporting company and change transfer agents. I think the PR is deliberately ambiguous and when they are ready to file their papers which they are immediately giving their attention to we will have answers to many of our questions. How many shares outstanding? What is the Naked Short Share position? What is the value of the kimberlite pipes we have lab samples returned on? What does the lab report say? Who is partnering with us, what percentages? And hopefully more. I think if there is a Mount Saint Helens PR it will be the follow up when we are going on a new exchange. I did get some more today at .0005. I wish I bought more. I don't see this going down on this PR. GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi
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You know, another thing while I'm ranting here, I listened to the transcript of Sterling on IBC radio last night. This is the guy that everyone seems to be pinning their hopes on with his "perfect storm" theory. Will, you thought Melvin sounded bad, listen to this piece of work! At one point he claimed CMKX's mineral claims might be worth 2 trillion dollars but people would view that as wild "spekalation" (his word, not mine) so he backed it off to a conservative 100 billion or so. I contend that they are worth nothing or next to nothing. This is land where the mineral rights have been bought up at a feverish pitch since the mid 1990's. Why is it then that CMKX can roll in half a decade to a decade later and buy up all of this pristine diamond filled land that everyone else ignored? Because there's nothing there! They claim to surround all of the diamond producing pipes. Great! what are they going to do, tap into someone else's pipes? You know, where I live there is a quartz quarry note too far away. You know what surrounds it? DIRT! Guess what surrounds all of the valuable claims in the FALC area? DIRT! This company stated that they were drilling on their highest priority target first and what did they find? Two diamonds not much wider than a hair follicle. Can't wait to see the results from some of the lower priority targets. The only remaining hope here is the naked short theory and that somehow this company pulls a rabbit out of its hat and somehow creates a sustained rise in the pps forcing all of those nasty MMs to cover those trillion or more shorted shares but more and more, even that is looking like nothing more than desperate hope.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Deb, I respect your optimism, but I think that's twice now I read you saying "delibrately ambiguous" Why should they HAVE to ambiguous? Why not be forthright, and forthcoming with accurate detailed news? Do you really think every PR is a play in a poker hand here?
Will,
Why would they give specific details? If something illegal is brewing and the law firm is going after it, would it make sense to get into specifics and put those specifics out so the world can see?
My two cents says Upside is 100% right on this. That release said absolutely nothing. They didn't even try to settle all the rumors floating around. Doji just started a new one as well..."the lawyers have been paid". Now, Doji, how would you know that? Read my lips: THAT RELEASE SAID NOTHING!!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: All right you guys........
My two cents says Upside is 100% right on this. That release said absolutely nothing. They didn't even try to settle all the rumors floating around. Doji just started a new one as well..."the lawyers have been paid". Now, Doji, how would you know that? Read my lips: THAT RELEASE SAID NOTHING!!!!!
I'm sorry to say this but some of people are not looking at what is in front of you. The PR said that they are GOING TO WORK. I wouldnt say that is nothing. Obviously, SOMETHING is going on, and the law firm is working on it. Whether it be shorting or making sure that we can comply with SEC requirments, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. All you people are looking for too much at one time. All you want is a quick buck. I suggest you get out if you have no patience, or this stock will drive you crazy.
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has anyone noticed on cbsmarketwatch they list the the o/s and a question what does it mean they handle forward looking statements with litigation this was on bottom of pr?
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Sterling is a guy on another message board who has come up with all kinds of wild speculation about how CMKX could be worth up to $16.00 per share and then he backed it off to I believe $1.50 or so. He has his own theory self titled "CMKX, The Perfect Storm" or something like that where based on wild land values, a CMKX dividend, a ton of naked shorted shares, and probably some other things I'm forgetting, CMKX has a value far surpassing anyones wildest dreams. It's been posted here before in the old thread somewhere. Look it up, it's pretty entertaining.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: All right you guys........
My two cents says Upside is 100% right on this. That release said absolutely nothing. They didn't even try to settle all the rumors floating around. Doji just started a new one as well..."the lawyers have been paid". Now, Doji, how would you know that? Read my lips: THAT RELEASE SAID NOTHING!!!!!
I'm sorry to say this but some of people are not looking at what is in front of you. The PR said that they are GOING TO WORK. I wouldnt say that is nothing. Obviously, SOMETHING is going on, and the law firm is working on it. Whether it be shorting or making sure that we can comply with SEC requirments, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. All you people are looking for too much at one time. All you want is a quick buck. I suggest you get out if you have no patience, or this stock will drive you crazy.
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Illegal? Naked Shorting might not be legal according to the written law, but it sure appears to be an accepted business/trading practice blessed by the SEC. In instances like that I wouldn't think it be out of the question to put the offenders on notice with a cease and desist statement.
quote:Originally posted by stk2301: Will,
Why would they give specific details? If something illegal is brewing and the law firm is going after it, would it make sense to get into specifics and put those specifics out so the world can see?
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I can't totally agree with Upside or Debi. If the PR is going to do bad to the pps why would they release it? Does Urban think that PR is good to pps and it will not do good to pps? Do they want the pps go down and deliberately released an ambiguous pr? Or like Debi said is this a indirect warning to MMs? Man.. this CMKX is always fishy. I am holding tho. GLTA
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quote:I'm sorry to say this but some of people are not looking at what is in front of you. The PR said that they are GOING TO WORK. I wouldnt say that is nothing. Obviously, SOMETHING is going on, and the law firm is working on it. Whether it be shorting or making sure that we can comply with SEC requirments, SOMETHING IS HAPPENING. All you people are looking for too much at one time. All you want is a quick buck. I suggest you get out if you have no patience, or this stock will drive you crazy.
quote:Originally posted by will: Illegal? Naked Shorting might not be legal according to the written law, but it sure appears to be an accepted business/trading practice blessed by the SEC. In instances like that I wouldn't think it be out of the question to put the offenders on notice with a cease and desist statement.
I dont see a reason to spill the beans in the beginning. Confidentiality is important with matters such as these.
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The release did say clearly that they have one or more problems. A subject i mentioned and no one took me up on is DEBEERS. They could be a real source of trouble especially if UC out-manevered(rumor) them on claims. VAN
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quote:I can't totally agree with Upside or Debi. If the PR is going to do bad to the pps why would they release it? Does Urban think that PR is good to pps and it will not do good to pps? Do they want the pps go down and deliberately released an ambiguous pr? Or like Debi said is this a indirect warning to MMs? Man.. this CMKX is always fishy. I am holding tho. GLTA
In my opinion they are trying to create the next wave of rumors and looking at some of the posts here, it's starting to work. Pps goes up tomorrow.
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OK. I thought that's what he was. I think I read one of his essays "Thinking Outside of the Box", struck me as a bunch of double speak. He doesn't know anymore than the rest of the people here.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by will: Sterling is a guy on another message board who has come up with all kinds of wild speculation about how CMKX could be worth up to $16.00 per share and then he backed it off to I believe $1.50 or so. He has his own theory self titled "CMKX, The Perfect Storm" or something like that where based on wild land values, a CMKX dividend, a ton of naked shorted shares, and probably some other things I'm forgetting, CMKX has a value far surpassing anyones wildest dreams. It's been posted here before in the old thread somewhere. Look it up, it's pretty entertaining.
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Upside, finally! Someone else who thinks Sterling is full of crap. I posted that opinion when "The Perfect Storm" was posted here and was pretty much ignored. I think people here would rather hear the BS then look at this thing realisticly.
I think there is probably value in the mineral claims but it remains to be seen how much, if it's worth mining, and if they can raise the money to mine.
I don't know how long you have been in the business world, but a whole lot of people "GO TO WORK" and do absolutely nothing.
Further, in the past (the far past), I have received 1000s of public releases (and well before the public got them). I saw their impact(s) thousands of times...and that's hands on experience. Do you have comparable credentials? I tell you again, THAT RELEASE SAID NOTHING !!!!
quote:Originally posted by hammer1home: has anyone noticed on cbsmarketwatch they list the the o/s and a question what does it mean they handle forward looking statements with litigation this was on bottom of pr?
is this o/s old and does any one know what the statement means in english
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UPSIDE Before I was rudely interrupted by a "server" My thoughts were to stage posts daily weekly or nn pages etc. but first have people "glean the valuable real data which would have an indefinate shelf life for research. NO L2s, or copied pastes from else where unless relevant and then moderator can pare it down. Also a nice poll segement that would be overseen by moderator to capture boards positions/who buys sells etc. The main thrust is to provide a goto thread for busy people & newbies. I have emailed BOB with ideas and think he might put out a thread to solicit more ideas> VAN
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Upside-first I want to address the finding 2 diamonds comment. I wasn't impressed until I found out that was from an 88 pound sample. Figure out how many would be in a ton. Also that was just the beginning. --------------------------------------------- As far as being deliberately ambiguous goes. The MM's know they are short. We know they are short. What they don't know is the outstanding share count and neither do we. For all we know there may be an open and shut winnable case here that will change the way business is done on the OTCBB and pinks. I sure hope so and not just so this stock will be a huge win for me. But the naked shorting is taking all the fun out of the market for me. It negates the law of supply and demand. It makes all the DD you do basically worthless. So I like to think of myself as a smart person. I read reports, visit the SEC sites, read the financials, old press releases, message boards, call the transfer agents, visit IR and then some criminals with while collars spin shares out of thin air and sell them to tank the price on good news. I want them held accountable and hope our law firm are the people to do it. If UC, the partners and a group of longs has bought all the OS and the MM's are spinning air-it will be fun to watch it unfold. I would pay thousands to watch. Oh, I did, it is my 21+ Million shares. They will need to buy them back from me and the price is going up. --------------------------------------------- This is my opinion and I am sticking with it. Good luck to all-I hope you do well whether you are in or out. If your out you won't get hurt if I am wrong. You may get jealous if I am right-but it won't hurt. --------------------------------------------- IMO-DD-Debi
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"As far as being deliberately ambiguous goes. The MM's know they are short. We know they are short. What they don't know is the outstanding share count and neither do we. For all we know there may be an open and shut winnable case here that will change the way business is done on the OTCBB and pinks."
Respectfully Deb, I don't think that answers the question of them being delibrately ambiguous, unless a am not smart enough to see the linkage. I'm one of those guys that need it broken down to me like I am a three year old.
quote:Originally posted by tutono: I have played with CMKX when they were CMKM, which was two symbol changes before. Does that tell you anything?! Actually, I should say they played with me. All those who are holding shares and all those looking to buy shares should keep just one thing in mind ... the money you have paid or are looking to pay had better be money you are perfectly ready and willing to lose!!! Just ask anyone else who has watched them for 2 years. And for those on here who have please stand up state how much you have lost or how often they used these following phrases in their PR's: Getting ready, delayed, purchasing equipment, ready to start drilling, drilling to prodeed on, yada yada yada. And then followed those PR's with reverse split, or symbol change with no value to previous stocks.
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