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quote:
Originally posted by will:
...I have one question, I remember seeing they had a PO from Circuit City, did they ever deliver any units? Did the certificatio issue come up before or after they shipped to CC ?

From iBIZ PR dated 2/12: "We are pleased to accept a purchase order for $536,910 for six different PDA products including 3,000 Virtual Keyboards, 9,000 travel kits, 3,000 CF Pocket Radios and 3,000 SD Pocket Radios for delivery on March 15th, 2004," said Ken Schilling, President and Chief Executive Officer. "

If you go to Circuitcity.com and do a search for iBIZ, you'll notice that 5 out of 6 products were delivered. They're also available at CC retail stores. VKB not yet delivered pending FCC certification.


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Replay, thanks.
So, the keyboard is what spurred all the interest in this one, and has failed to come to market, got it. Wonder if Qbidders are paying attention to the development of ocurrances here. I know I am.

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quote:
Originally posted by will:
poorman, Hi:

Do me a favor and give me the history of this stock in a nutshell, please.


I'll try Will but to do it right it would take forever. Company has been around for a long time. At 1 point during the tech run I think it was up at 60.00 a share. They make several product that are in the stores now ( PDA'S ECT ) and have a licence to sell the vkb in the U.S though they did not develop it at least that is my understanding. PPS ran to .08 a couple of month ago but has droped ever since with a small run up from .032 to .052 in between I personaly only hold a small amount of it so have never gotten very deep into the DD. I do believe that when the keyboard hits the stores there will be a run but not sure that it will go as high as some people on this board think ( I have been wrong about this before )In the next couple of weeks I think everyone holding this will make money, I happen to like it when people start bashing a stock as it often means that it is about to run. Hope this helped.


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Thanks poorman:
If it dips again I just might take three swings at it ??? You're right, if there's a 50/50 chance they will resolve this certification problem, and that is the only thing holding it up, it could make you some $.

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quote:
Originally posted by will:
Thanks poorman:
If it dips again I just might take three swings at it ??? You're right, if there's a 50/50 chance they will resolve this certification problem, and that is the only thing holding it up, it could make you some $.

I have no doubt that they will resolve it sooner or later, most of the bashing comes from people that expected to make a killing in the short term on this. I admit it's taking much longer than I thought myself, i've been holding this for months.


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quote:
Originally posted by Replay2x:
Do all FCC approved products need to have their FCC ID # labeled on them?

I don't think the VKB's that iBIZ produced (ready-to-ship/stock in AZ) so far have the FCC ID # on them...More delays, but it's all good as long as we get certification, right?


Same question that I posted at AtomicBob and this is the response I got from aiken_walker...Just FYI.

"It is most likely that the VKB will be VERIFIED and not CERTIFIED. Verified devices do not have FCC ID numbers. Certified devices do. Not having an FCC ID number also means the VKB will not be in the FCC database. The FCC Verification Compliance label is generic and is as shown below:


CERTIFICATION of the VKB (which is less likely because of time and cost) would give it an FCC ID number and therefore would be in the database.

Per the FCC:

"After completing the above instructions, the device may now be marketed. There is no filing with the FCC required for verified equipment."

"Verification is a self-approval process. The verification procedure requires that tests be performed on the device to be authorized. The manufacturer (or importer for an imported device) is required to ensure that the measurements necessary to determine compliance with the technical standards are performed. A copy of the measurement report showing compliance with FCC standards must be retained by the manufacturer and, if requested, submitted to the Commission. Devices subject to verification include: business computer equipment (Class A); TV and FM receivers; and, non-consumer Industrial, Scientific and Medical Equipment.

Once the report is on file, a compliance label must be affixed to the device. Also, an information statement regarding the interference potential of the device and information about any special accessories need to ensure FCC compliance must be included in the instruction manual. The manufacturer (or importer) is responsible for having the compliance label produced, and for having it affixed to each device that is marketed or imported. The wording for the compliance label and the information statement regarding interference problems is included in Part 15 of the FCC Rules. Verified devices must be uniquely identified with a brand name and/or model number that cannot be confused with other devices on the market. However, they may not be labelled with an FCC ID or in a manner that could be confused with an FCC ID.

"After completing the above instructions, the device may now be marketed. There is no filing with the FCC required for verified equipment."

This post is based solely on my opinions and research. I keep an open mind on these matters so please let me know if you find information to the contrary."


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Hello,

I don't understand all the bashers here. FACT is IBIZ will and IBIZ must deliver the VKB's ! You ask why ? Very simple...they've contracts to fulfill .... not for the shareholders or non-shareholders...they must deliver the VKB's to many stores outside which have already paid for it !!!

So there's is no question...the VKB will come to the stores ASAP ... June/July !

This discussion here makes no sence...over and out !

Ciao


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Well , there's a possibility that they won't deliver them, and have to credit there customers. Nothing is irreversable, now is it? If you would have said they will do everything in their power to deliver, I agree, no one wants to breech a contract and have to credit the customer back, but it is a possibility. What the odds are I have no idea? 50/50, right now ??

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Originally posted by be_cool:
Hello,

I don't understand all the bashers here. FACT is IBIZ will and IBIZ must deliver the VKB's ! You ask why ? Very simple...they've contracts to fulfill .... not for the shareholders or non-shareholders...they must deliver the VKB's to many stores outside which have already paid for it !!!

So there's is no question...the VKB will come to the stores ASAP ... June/July !

This discussion here makes no sence...over and out !

Ciao



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i would have to say that the "contracts" are not contracts at all just orders for the VKB. i have never heard of a company signing contracts unless it is a sole source distribution type deal where CC would be the only place that carried the VKB. i seriously doubt that CC or any others paid up front for this stuff! come on.
KS has lost investor confidence and even if this thing gets delivered. it will be a short pop up so people can get their money out and then right back down untill some serious income is reported.
numbers and only numbers which the last report of 550000 is a joke considering the outstanding shares.

just so no one cries foul this is only my opinion based on the past performance of the CEO of IBIZ and it don't mean sh!t

[This message has been edited by Bagram (edited May 23, 2004).]


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Poorman i dont see that i attacked anyone personaly and if i did i truely am sorry and it was not intentional. now if your offended by my post then you are offended by the truth also? everything here is not all roses and i am not that new here just my username because my hotmail address caused my account to get canceled i had to get a new name.
stick to the facts and dont try to make this personal.

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text from your mobile desk notice the new date! unbelievable and i am being painted the a$$hole anyone defends IBIZ is only trying to save their own investment.

JMVHO

Virtual Laser Keyboard!
Virtual hunt and peck Tired of poking at tiny onscreen keys or toting around a foldout keyboard to enter text into your PDA? In the "now for something completely different" category!!!
SKU Number: IBIZ-VKB Price: $99.99

On back order. Expected to be in stock: 06/30/04


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quote:
Originally posted by Bagram:
[B]i would have to say that the "contracts" are not contracts at all just orders for the VKB. [B]

WRONG my friend ! ...and whats this ?

"We are pleased to accept a purchase order for $536,910 for six different PDA products including 3,000 Virtual Keyboards, 9,000 travel kits, 3,000 CF Pocket Radios and 3,000 SD Pocket Radios..."

IMO a purchase order is a contract ! They cannot say "Oh sorry, I've thinked about and I don't want it anymore !" ....nobody is so stupid to believe that....you ?!?!

The VKB's will come out ... sooner or later .... THIS summer ! The VKB's are no jokes or maybe products.... they are for real ! ....much money (for PR, fairs, manuals, shipping, new factories,...) are already put into these things ...so you can be sure THE VKB WILL COME OUT !

And again...this discussion makes no sence...over and out !

Ciao


Ciao

[This message has been edited by be_cool (edited May 23, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by Bagram:
Poorman i dont see that i attacked anyone personaly and if i did i truely am sorry and it was not intentional. now if your offended by my post then you are offended by the truth also? everything here is not all roses and i am not that new here just my username because my hotmail address caused my account to get canceled i had to get a new name.
stick to the facts and dont try to make this personal.

The comment on bashing was directed at MOSES2 not you Bagram so its me that is sorry.I was not trying to make anything personal between you and me or anyone else for that matter, I was just trying to bring some reason into the discussion. At times when stocks we hold are down everyone gets jumpy. GOOD LUCK TRADING


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CONTRACT

Agreement between two or more parties that creates for each party a duty to do something (e.g., to provide goods at a certain price according to a specified schedule) or a duty not to do something (e.g., to divulge an employer's trade secrets or financial status to third parties).

A party's failure to honour a contract allows the other party or parties to bring an action for damages in a court of law, though arbitration may also be pursued in an effort to keep the matter confidential. In order to be valid, a contract must be entered into both willingly and freely. A contract that violates this principle, including one made with a legal minor or a person deemed mentally incompetent, may be declared unenforceable. A contract also must have a lawful objective.

purchase order

What is a purchase order?
A purchase order represents the formal and final agreement to a purchasing transaction with a vendor. It identifies:

the vendor

the material to be ordered

the quantity

the price

the delivery date and terms of delivery

the terms of payment

I think IBIZ is lucky it is not a contract?

becool its ok i dont think your stupid i think your "Q"

i was gonna say CIAO!
but im just stupid not "Q"

here i am making fun of QBID but i have made far more money there? ........smooch


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CONTRACT

Agreement between two or more parties that creates for each party a duty to do something (e.g., to provide goods at a certain price according to a specified schedule) or a duty not to do something (e.g., to divulge an employer's trade secrets or financial status to third parties).

A party's failure to honour a contract allows the other party or parties to bring an action for damages in a court of law, though arbitration may also be pursued in an effort to keep the matter confidential. In order to be valid, a contract must be entered into both willingly and freely. A contract that violates this principle, including one made with a legal minor or a person deemed mentally incompetent, may be declared unenforceable. A contract also must have a lawful objective.

purchase order

What is a purchase order?
A purchase order represents the formal and final agreement to a purchasing transaction with a vendor. It identifies:

the vendor

the material to be ordered

the quantity

the price

the delivery date and terms of delivery

the terms of payment

I think IBIZ is lucky it is not a contract?

becool its ok i dont think your stupid i think your "Q"

i was gonna say CIAO!
but im just stupid not "Q"

here i am making fun of QBID but i have made far more money there? ........smooch


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Take this as you will as I have nothing to back it up.

I was told by a friend that IBZT has not trade any shares for a week on the Berlin exchange. ( not delisted yet but volume is 0.
Also he talked to 1 of the shilling's on when his keyboard would be shiped and was told soon. He asked how the stock was doing and they told him they had some setbacks but it should be up soon and not to sell.

Remember this is second hand info so take it for whats its worth.

Steve I know you lurk on this board so if you want to post you conversation please do.


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quote:
Originally posted by poorman:
...I was told by a friend that IBZT has not trade any shares for a week on the Berlin exchange. ( not delisted yet but volume is 0.

21,762 is today's volume according to Yahoo Finance. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=IBZT.BE


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this is getting ugly see you at the bottom
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you know what? FORGET THIS COMPANY! im selling, taking my loss, and i bet i can make up for my loss by re-investing the money i had in IBIZ into something a little more positive. this is just becoming a joke.

all you "wait till christmas time people" good luck you need it


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Whatever happens,, I am still long and strong... I've been waiting for months,,, a couple more months wont hurt, too much loss to if I sell now
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Holding on to this just because of the product. Even loosers come up with good ideas sometimes and everybody knows that without proper marketing nothing is worth the asking price. The VKB and BlueDock are too good to take a big loss on this. I may be crying later but for now I'm holding this. I guess I've broken rule number one,
"never fall in love with a stock" but I'm more in love with the technology than the stock. I just see great potential but that's JMHO. Hate to see anyone throw money away just because of a setback. I know some say they have listened to the lies for many moons now but I'm at a loss to see why anyone would not hold until there is no hope at all. I see good excuses for the delays, and accept that the product is being "certified". Just a few thoughts from a fairly new player here. Do your own DD but nibble on this food for thought.

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for those still holding this pig
defeat is no reason for stupidity

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For anyone that is new to this board or easly swayed dont listen to bagram ive only seen him writing on here a few days and hes been whining since he got here... do your research and make your own desision. with out listing to me, him or anyone else. Negativity has a way of swaying people dont base your money on it!
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iBIZ VKB review on the TechTV TSS: http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/products/story/0,24330,3588983,00.html

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A keyboard that's more about style and less about function. Watch today at 7 p.m. and tomorrow at 12 a.m. and 8 a.m. Eastern.
By Patrick Norton

I'd love to tell you that I'm typing this up directly on the iBiz Virtual Keyboard. It looks so cool; an laser projects a "keyboard" on the tabletop in front of you, and you literally type on the light. This $99 wonder has been on our radar since we saw the first pictures of it online.

Unfortunately, after repeated attempts, neither Kevin nor I can successfully touch type on it. Which, on tight deadline, makes using a physical keyboard faster than typing via the LED projected keyboard projected by the Virtual Keyboard. Normally I'd hope that over time my fingers would adapt to the Virtual Keyboards layout. I don't think it's going to happen, though. The uneven sensitivity of the keyboard makes it exceeding difficult to complete some typing tasks that should be painless, like holding the Shift key so you can type a capital letter.

The classic two fingered hunt and peck style of typing works best with the Virtual Keyboard. Which, if you use it with a PDA, could be heaps faster than using a tiny on screen keyboard or handwriting recognition entry.

If you're into slick looking gadgetry the Virtual Keyboard has potential. It requires a serial cable to connect to your PDA, and if you're travelling, you'll want to bring the power cable; the expected battery life is 4 hours. I'd rather have a wireless connection to the PDA, or at least USB.

The Virtual Keyboard would also be more practical if my PDA had a built in stand. It's hard to see the screen on the PDA when its pushed out of the way of the Virtual Keyboard.

Is it cool? Absolutely. Is it a direct replacement for a regular keyboard? Hardly. If you don't touch type, and use minimal capital letters, the Virtual Ketboard might be functional. If you are looking for less "oooooh" and more function, consider iBiz's KeySync Keyboard.

Posted May 25, 2004
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Not a glowing review, but at least it works. We already knew you could not touch type on it. It says so right in the manual. Maybe they should have read the manual before they made "repeated attempts" to do so.

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I don't really understand.

I typed out my full name pretty easily out on the vkb in their office. It was not hoocked up to a monitor but I could hear the clicks from it.

So I really think I could get used to it pretty easily...


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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
you know what? FORGET THIS COMPANY! im selling, taking my loss, and i bet i can make up for my loss by re-investing the money i had in IBIZ into something a little more positive. this is just becoming a joke.

all you "wait till christmas time people" good luck you need it


Come on, Cashmoo- all you've paid for so far, is a few payments on one of Ken's SUVs. Stick around- his mortgage is due on the 1st.


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nah moses to late i sold....working on bigger and better things
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Good !!! move your a$$ to another board,you cry to much..


quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
nah moses to late i sold....working on bigger and better things


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