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Reading before bed time about ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW INVESTING IN DIAMONDS: http://www.diamondplay.com/s/Home.asp (quite outdated news, but hey good to read to kill time)
And if you not up to heavy reading, this will do (copy from other web):
"John Kaiser of Kaiser Bottom-Fish Online had an article in Resource World (June 2003) entitled "How To Analyze Diamond Stocks" in which he details his beliefs about organizing data to understand diamond industry stock.
Kaiser makes an apt reference to race track statistics and betting formulae based on information. It is all speculation and regardless of "due dilligence" there can be a let down in the end.
The difference between horse races and diamond exploration stocks lies in the duration of the race, or the stock play. With stocks, there is much more time to change your position, many points at which you can buy in or sell. Once the bet on the horse is made, there are few options other than sitting out the race.
How does Kaiser organize the information? Organizing Info about Publicly Traded Junior Diamond Exploration Companies
Kaiser warns all owners of stock in a junior exploration company that they do not hold title to a real asset but to a potential asset. That is the nature of stocks on the TSX Venture exchange.
Determining the value of the asset depends on access to valuable geological and market data such as "tonnage, grade, and commodity price" amongst other factors.
Investors must also understand the stages of the exploration-to-market cycle. Kaiser lists nine points in the cycle which leads to a mine: Grass Roots, Target Drilling, Micro Diamond Testing, Mini Bulk Sampling, Bulk Sampling, Prefeasibility, Permitting, Construction, and Production. There are also other factors related to partnerships, a source which will purchase the production and downstream wholesalers/retailers for diamonds of a gem grade or a commercial grade. If a partner purchases the rights to bring a find to a mine and then closes the area down because market conditions are not right or its own supply line does not require bringing the find to a mine for another twenty years, where is the investor?
How do all these variables translate into stock price?
Obviously a company with 20,000,000 shares with a capialization of two million dollars cash could be seen as having a stock value of ten cents. On top of that is the speculative value of the claims. Such value depends on where the company stands in relation to Kaiser's points in the cycle which leads to production. It is really more complicated as Kaiser explains: "Speculators do not start with ultimate project values and theoretical project values corresponding to a probability ladder. They start out with stock price, figure out the fully diluted capitalization, find out what the project promoter is touting, and what net interests the company will end up with in the project. This information can be tied together by multiplying fully diluted capitalization by the stock price, and dividing by project percentage expressed in a decimal form. The result is an implied project value (IPV), or what the market is saying the project is worth in its entirety based on the junior's stock price. Then the speculator asks where the project is in the exploration cycle, how big the discovery will be and why, and what the company is doing to make it happen." (Resource World Magazine, June 2003, p. 16) Source: http://www.brysonburke.com/investing_organize_data.html
Good night!
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I'll have to agree with your view here. It sounded like he was implicitly trying to tell us what a great guy he was by telling us how much he cared about the shareholders. "I don't care about diamonds, I care about shareholders" - I AM A SHAREHOLDER AND I CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT DIAMONDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THIS COMPANY IS SUPPOSED TO FIND! If this Melvin guy really cared about shareholders, he should care about diamonds too.
quote:Originally posted by VIP: this Melvin guy is the funnies guy I ever heard.
hahahhahaha... "I don't care about diamond, I don't care about outstanding shares, but I care about Shareholders."
LOL...
****ing dick... show the DIAMONDS and O/S shares, u bitch...
He also said "this is the biggest diamond find ever". Why would he say that if they haven't found diamonds.
quote:Originally posted by PAUL: Upside, I hope all is well with you. Been real busy here.
Question 1 -They just do it. Assuming that the the company will go belly up. OR shooting for what would look like a realistic chance of a RS followed by the PPS falling right back to where it is now. This gives them the chance to cover at 1/10 of the sell price.
Question 2 - Don't have a clue.
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He also said "this is the biggest diamond find ever". Why would he say that if they haven't found diamonds.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: Could someone please answer a few questions for me? I just listened to Melvin on IBC radio today and he said that Mr. Casavant would not release the o/s count until "the time was right" and that he wouldn't do it because he didn't want to give "ammunition" to the short sellers. Couple of questions about this:
#1, How do you short a stock that basically sells at .0001? Who in their right mind would do it? By shorting you are betting the pps will be going down.
#2, How does releasing the o/s count give short sellers ammunition? The shares are either available for shorting or they aren't. The o/s count doesn't matter. If they're all naked shorts the o/s is even more meaningless. Naked shorters use shares that don't exist anyway so how does an o/s count affect this?
Any help?
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Diamond Theft Brainteaser There is a famous diamond displayed in a room that measures 15 meters by 15 meters by 15 meters. The room is made entirely of concrete blocks and the floor is covered with a thick carpet.
The only thing in the room is the diamond that is housed under a glass cube. The glass cube stands on a one-meter pedestal in the centre of the room.
Alarm wires spaced eight centimetres apart and running parallel to each other lie under the carpet. The alarm will trigger if more than four kilograms of pressure is applied to any individual wire.
Zimi Bibutel, who weighs 74 kilograms, was able to steal the famous diamond. He used the following equipment:
a five meter 2 x 4 board four leather straps .............(each two meters long and five cm wide) a hammer a saw
How could he do it without triggering the alarm?
Answer:
Zimi Bubutel stole the diamond in the following manner:
First, he cut five meter 2 x 4 boards in half. Then using the available straps, he fastened the two boards to his feet like skies.
With the boards strapped to his feet, his weight was displacing enough so that he did not exceed the wire’s weight tolerance and triggers the alarm.
Zimi then slowly and carefully walked to the centre of the room, smashed the glass cube with the hammer, took the diamond and returned the same way he came in.
He has not been apprehended to this day.
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I was hoping for another opinion. The way he said it, you could take it a couple of differant ways. Was he realy pissed and wanted to give a hit to the share holders because he "CARES ABOUT US" or was he assuming we would take it as if they did infact find diamonds and haven't.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: He was referring to the FLC area as a whole when he said that. Not to their core samples specifically although he did kind of make it sound that way.
quote:Originally posted by TradingWizard: A response to this comment: "Originally posted by DIESELECLASS: something you might not all know...there are enough diamonds in the world, already being held, and that have already been mined to fill up one large soda cap with diamonds and give everyone in the world one of these caps. I did say everyone. The price of diamonds is so high, because of the fact that there is such a strictly monitored release of them, to keep the price high. Do your own DD though. I am not bashing this company, I know nothing about it... just came in here to see what was going on. Who knows when I am done making money with QBID, there might still be some pickings left with this one. For me though, I don't see myself getting into diamonds right now. But that is my opinion, and I am a newbie, so plesae dont take my word for it, or anyone elses... you are the only one who can be held responsible for your own actions! But to all of you who are invested in this company, I hope it does extremely well."
And this is what I found, especially last paragraph:
The Diamond Cartel The discoveries of 1870–71 in South Africa led to a great number of prospectors staking out claims and securing the diamonds by open-pit or quarry mining. The damage caused by floods and mudslides, unavoidable when there were so many different claims, was an important factor in the series of amalgamations carried on by Cecil Rhodes and Barnett Barnato. Rhodes brought about the merging of their interests in the De Beers Consolidated Mines, Ltd., which established (1889) an effective monopoly over the diamond industry. Loss of diamonds by theft was reduced through the passage of the so-called I.D.B. (Illicit Diamond Buying) Act, which limited the trade to licensed buyers and imposed penalties for the possession of uncut stones without a license. Thefts were further curtailed by the institution of compounds in which the workers live while employed by the company and which they leave only after being thoroughly searched. 6 Most of the major diamond producers belong to, or have cooperated with, the De Beers–led marketing cartel, formed to maintain the price of diamonds at a high level. De Beers, under Harry Oppenheimer’s leadership (1957–84), maintained its dominant position in the industry by using its numerous worldwide companies to buy up new sources of diamonds and to control distribution of industrial diamonds and production of synthetic ones. In the last decades of the 20th cent., however, De Beers’ hold over the unpolished diamond market decreased, and in 2000 the company announced it would end to its policy of controlling diamond prices through hoarding and shift its focus to increasing sales. More reading and source on the above statement: http://www.bartleby.com/65/di/diamond.html
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CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Update on Carolyn Pipe and Targets Selected for Drilling on Green Lake via COMTEX
May 27, 2004
LAS VEGAS, May 27, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) --
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has completed the first phase of drilling of the 'Carolyn Pipe'in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Five holes were drilled, of which four intersected kimberlite.
Drill hole #1 intersected 428 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #2, north of hole #1, intersected about 246 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #3, east of hole #1, did not intersect any kimberlite. Drill hole #4, west of hole #1, intersected 206 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #5, north of #4, hole approx. 226 feet of kimberlite, although there is a 15 foot interval of mudstone in the kimberlite, which may be a layer of sediment laid between two episodes of kimberlitic volcanism. Thinner layers of mudstone in the kimberlite in other holes may also be either blocks or layers of sediment.
The kimberlite intervals from holes #1 and #2 have been split and half of the core has been sent to an independent laboratory for microdiamond analysis by total dissolution. The results are expected soon and further work on the 'Carolyn Pipe'will depend on those results.
The Company would also like to announce an update on the Green Lake claims, which are located in the province of Saskatchewan. The core drilling at the Green Lake claims has been delayed and will not commence, at this time, because of the possible difficulties of drilling the target through the ice. The Green Lake claims were targeted for core drilling prior to the kimberlite find, at the 'Carolyn Pipe', but further examination of the drill location indicated swift currents below the surface of the ice which may have caused considerable damage to the drill equipment. It had been determined that drilling other priority targets would be in the best interest for the drilling program, while further research to achieve a successful core drilling for this target can be attained.
Goldak Airborne Surveys of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada has been contracted, on behalf of CMKM Diamonds, Inc., to perform an airborne gradient survey of approximately 53,000 line kilometers. The survey encompasses the central Fort a la Corne kimberlite cluster and covers the surrounding mineral claims owned by the Company. All required payments, with respect to the contract, have been met and the operation is proceeding, unimpeded. The Goldak Tri-Maxial gradiometer system is able to sharply define and reject cultural anomalies. This type of survey also has the ability to detect non-magnetic kimberlites, and it is believed that some non-magnetic kimberlites may exist in the area. The survey operations, started in early April, and now at the end of May, are over 90% complete. The aerial survey is expected to be finished, flying within the next week and then final data processing will begin. When the data processing is complete, the data will be delivered to the Company geologist for interpretation and selection for follow-up ground surveys to determine drill targets.
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CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Update on Carolyn Pipe and Targets Selected for Drilling on Green Lake Business Wire - May 27, 2004 09:30
LAS VEGAS, May 27, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX) is pleased to announce that the Company has completed the first phase of drilling of the "Carolyn Pipe" in the Fort a la Corne, Saskatchewan area. Five holes were drilled, of which four intersected kimberlite.
Drill hole #1 intersected 428 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #2, north of hole #1, intersected about 246 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #3, east of hole #1, did not intersect any kimberlite. Drill hole #4, west of hole #1, intersected 206 feet of kimberlite. Drill hole #5, north of #4, hole approx. 226 feet of kimberlite, although there is a 15 foot interval of mudstone in the kimberlite, which may be a layer of sediment laid between two episodes of kimberlitic volcanism. Thinner layers of mudstone in the kimberlite in other holes may also be either blocks or layers of sediment.
The kimberlite intervals from holes #1 and #2 have been split and half of the core has been sent to an independent laboratory for microdiamond analysis by total dissolution. The results are expected soon and further work on the "Carolyn Pipe" will depend on those results.
The Company would also like to announce an update on the Green Lake claims, which are located in the province of Saskatchewan. The core drilling at the Green Lake claims has been delayed and will not commence, at this time, because of the possible difficulties of drilling the target through the ice. The Green Lake claims were targeted for core drilling prior to the kimberlite find, at the "Carolyn Pipe", but further examination of the drill location indicated swift currents below the surface of the ice which may have caused considerable damage to the drill equipment. It had been determined that drilling other priority targets would be in the best interest for the drilling program, while further research to achieve a successful core drilling for this target can be attained.
Goldak Airborne Surveys of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada has been contracted, on behalf of CMKM Diamonds, Inc., to perform an airborne gradient survey of approximately 53,000 line kilometers. The survey encompasses the central Fort a la Corne kimberlite cluster and covers the surrounding mineral claims owned by the Company. All required payments, with respect to the contract, have been met and the operation is proceeding, unimpeded. The Goldak Tri-Maxial gradiometer system is able to sharply define and reject cultural anomalies. This type of survey also has the ability to detect non-magnetic kimberlites, and it is believed that some non-magnetic kimberlites may exist in the area. The survey operations, started in early April, and now at the end of May, are over 90% complete. The aerial survey is expected to be finished, flying within the next week and then final data processing will begin. When the data processing is complete, the data will be delivered to the Company geologist for interpretation and selection for follow-up ground surveys to determine drill targets.
There is no guarantee that further exploration or drilling will produce any economic benefit to the Company or the shareholders of the Company.
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995: The statements, other than the statements of historical facts, may be deemed to contain forward-looking statements with respect to events, the occurrence of which involves risks and uncertainties, including, without limitation, demand and competition for the Company's products and services, the availability to the Company of adequate financing to support its anticipated activities, the ability of the Company to generate cash flow from operations and the ability of the Company to manage its operations.
SOURCE: CMKM Diamonds, Inc.
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Melvin O'Neil, +1-306-752-3755 +1-877-752-3755 fax: +1-306-752-3754 ipr@sasktel.net
THis is not the PR i was hoping for though. hold on....perhaps soon we shall see more news
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I was expecting PR soon regarding the results of the microdiamond analysis... i hope they're following soon... although, I am happy that 4 of 5 core samples hit kimberlite!
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"....for microdiamond analysis by total dissolution" Why are they saying microdiamond analysis instead of diamond analysis. Is this means that they think that there is no full size diamonds, just smaller diamonds... Well microdiamonds still can be used for something else - tooling, not so precious and glamerous!
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quote:Originally posted by TradingWizard: "....for microdiamond analysis by total dissolution" Why are they saying microdiamond analysis instead of diamond analysis. Is this means that they think that there is no full size diamonds, just smaller diamonds... Well microdiamonds still can be used for something else - tooling, not so precious and glamerous!
it's always a microdiamond analysis. true, they make big money from "visible" diamonds for jewelry, but the microdiamonds are where the "real" money can be made. Microdiamonds have a HUGE industrial demand. Everything from diamond tipped drills to thermal conductors... the US Geological Survey site has information on industrial diamonds... http://minerals.er.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/diamond/ ... it's worth a quick look..
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[/b][/QUOTE] it's always a microdiamond analysis. true, they make big money from "visible" diamonds for jewelry, but the microdiamonds are where the "real" money can be made. Microdiamonds have a HUGE industrial demand. Everything from diamond tipped drills to thermal conductors... the US Geological Survey site has information on industrial diamonds... http://minerals.er.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/diamond/ ... it's worth a quick look.. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thanks great info.....here is a copy of basic definition for everyone else just in case link ever disappears:
DIAMONDS UNLIMITED OPPORTUNITIES
"Diamond may well be the world's most versatile engineering material as well as its most famous gemstone. The superiority of diamond in so many diverse industrial applications is attributable to a unique combination of properties that cannot be matched by any other material. For example, diamond is the strongest and hardest known material and has the highest thermal conductivity of any material at room temperature. Diamond that does not meet gem-quality standards for color, clarity, size, or shape is used principally as an abrasive, and is termed "industrial diamond." Even though it is more expensive than competing abrasive materials, diamond has proven to be more cost effective in numerous industrial processes because it cuts faster and lasts longer than any rival material. Synthetic industrial is superior to its natural diamond counterpart because it can be produced in unlimited quantities, and, in many cases, its properties can be tailored for specific applications. Consequently, manufactured diamond accounts for more than 90% of the industrial diamond used in the United States."
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quote:The core drilling at the Green Lake claims has been delayed and will not commence, at this time, because of the possible difficulties of drilling the target through the ice.
That's really interesting that they're having difficulty with the ice since its suppossed to be 74 degrees there today and according to Green Lake Resorts who runs a fishing lodge on the lake, they have been renting boats out for two weeks now.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: That's really interesting that they're having difficulty with the ice since its suppossed to be 74 degrees there today and according to Green Lake Resorts who runs a fishing lodge on the lake, they have been renting boats out for two weeks now.
How long has it been 74 degrees, and how cold is the ground 900 feet below the surface? Just asking...
I GOT YOUR BACK ON THAT ONE ..,... I WANT TO SEE THIS THING TAKE OFF. EACH DAY GOES BY, MORE GREEN LIGHT SHINES IN THOSE PIPES. GO CMKX GO CMKX GO GO GO GO..
_____________________________________ HOLDING CMKX 51 MILLION SOLDIERS STRONG
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Upside I wanted to respond to how does the naked shorting affect the stock price. First I am defining Naked Shorting as the selling of shares that you don't have in your possession without seeing if there are any available or covering after the fact. The way this hurts the price is when there is demand for a stock the supply is in reality limited to a specific number of shares. For example If there are 2 Million shares available and the going price is .13 and 3 Million shares are being sought the price should rise like at an auction. When shares are created out of air it creates an artificial supply and negates the demand price pressure. We are seeing this in all the bulletin board stocks and I am sick of it. -Debi --------------------------------------------- CMKX news is OK-I was hoping for share count and news of diamonds. but there are more MM's on bid-10 according to a post on the CMKX message board at Cassavant Diamonds. That is something new. GLTA-Debi
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WOW.. 51Million..huh? Good luck to us all. I have 16M and thinking I have too many..
quote:Originally posted by fjean: I GOT YOUR BACK ON THAT ONE ..,... I WANT TO SEE THIS THING TAKE OFF. EACH DAY GOES BY, MORE GREEN LIGHT SHINES IN THOSE PIPES. GO CMKX GO CMKX GO GO GO GO..
_____________________________________ HOLDING CMKX 51 MILLION SOLDIERS STRONG
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Pharm.. mine is kinda funny story.. I had 10M until last month. One day I placed an order for .0001 (when .0002s are going on like today) and got it filled in 2 days. I bought 1M last week when somebody posted its hard to get CMKX..
But I want to keep them now, have a sell order at .0002 for 4M and .0003 for 3M.
quote:Originally posted by pharmdman: LMAO... i never thought I'd feel like the short one in the d|ck measuring contest with 2 million...
quote:How long has it been 74 degrees, and how cold is the ground 900 feet below the surface? Just asking...
Pharmdman, Can't answer either of those questions but I called Green Lake Lodge located on Green Lake and inquired about a fishing trip. In our conversation they told me their season opened on May 8th this year after it was officially "ice off".
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