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dazedtrader
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Was thinking it might be interesting to see what motivates people to trade the OTC market... I know that we personally have specific goals that we feel can only be met by trading pennies. My girlfriend and I have each put 1,000 into a joint Ameritrade account, with the idea that any gains we make over the next two years will be a down payment on our next (dream?) house.

The penny market is the only place where I can see us making any significant dosh out of the $2K seed money we've put into it, in so short a time. We realize its risky, but we also figure that the only way to make it big is to actually TRY. If we lose all of it, at least we gave it a go.

Ideally, we'd like to have 80-100K in 2 years, for a nice down payment on a 3-bed, 2-bath new-construction home on the West Coast of Florida. It'll have an acre or more of property for our two dogs, a pool, and (ideally) canal access via the backyard straight to the gulf. Eventually we'd like to own a good-sized sailboat, for regular excursions around the Gulf and Caribbean (maybe even an Atlantic crossing, if we get adventurous one day!)

That's our (semi-humble) dream. If pennies can take us there in 2-3 years, as opposed to waiting 20-30 for my "safe" investments to kick in, I'll consider myself the luckiest man in the world.

If not, ah well, at least we tried.


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BECAUSE PENNIES ARE SHINY!!!!!!!

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I trade pennies cause my 401k won't be enough and social security will be gone by the time i retire. Besides how else can you make a killing legally?
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My plan was to start with pennies, build up my portfolio, then graduate to the NASDAQ. But shoot, I am making so much money on the pennies I may just STAY here.

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because i'm trying to take $300 and turn it into 5k to pay for my wedding that will be happening in one year.
so far i'm up $16....
crap.

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GuyinBoxers - GOOD LUCK!!! Don't get discouraged... I lost almost all my profits on CYTP last week, but I know things will turn around eventually (thank god for PGHI!). It helps a lot when you've got a specific goal in mind (like a wedding) to keep you motivated.


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Thanks!
it is kind of discouraging.
it sucks i have to wait for the stocks to settle to get my money to trade again. hopefully i can wiggle my way up to 1k and then i'll have some room to work.
in the meantime i'm hoping for ibzt to bust over .1

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Dazedtrader your right there. Those goals really help you, altho you still gota be aware of the risk ..dont forget that. But yes those goals help.

Got a few myself...just means gota make that much more


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quote:
Originally posted by GuyInBoxers:
Thanks!
it is kind of discouraging.
it sucks i have to wait for the stocks to settle to get my money to trade again. hopefully i can wiggle my way up to 1k and then i'll have some room to work.
in the meantime i'm hoping for ibzt to bust over .1


I just got married this summer...1)Flowers don't last more than 24 hours (so don't spend a lot on them) and 2) you don't HAVE to get a cake...me and my wife almost got ice cream sandwiches instead...would've saved us $500 right there. Good luck.

FS ~ Trust your dd


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I do it for fun. There is always that possibility that you'll find a big winner. Of course, there are lots of possibilities to find big losers too But my real serious money isn't in pennies. I have much better success in swing trading stocks trading in the 1.00-15.00 range.

To me, I'd rather make 200-500 dollars a week trading those stocks than hold on to a lot of penny stocks for months on end waiting for big money. That's why it's fun to play with maybe 3-5 grand in pennies, since it can be exciting.. but I'm more of a steady gain sorta guy


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That's one thing I've noticed, trading penny stocks... your mind automatically starts converting the prices of everyday "splurge" purchases into shares of penny stocks...

"Forty five dollars for dinner?!? That's 5,320 shares of CDED I could've bought!!!"


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I like ulcers!
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quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
That's one thing I've noticed, trading penny stocks... your mind automatically starts converting the prices of everyday "splurge" purchases into shares of penny stocks...

"Forty five dollars for dinner?!? That's 5,320 shares of CDED I could've bought!!!"



that seriously reminds me of college. Whenever we would plan on buying something, Id say, "Wait a second, $4.00... We could get three 40s for that price." Thanks for the reminder!!


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Lets see, I want a Cessna 182 and a Porsche 930 and to pay off my home and retire at 40. Hummmm, I think thats all! hehehe
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PS: So far all I have done is lose money but I am always hopefull!
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THEN FOLLOW DADOG

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hmmmmm.

you want 5000% return on your original investment in 2 years.

well, you could:

1) become a drug dealer

2) buy a couple of glocks and 2 ak47's and read bonnie and clyde. (be sure your will is up to date.)

3) CAREFULLY invest in penny stocks and hope you're lucky, because that initial 2k can disappear like a fart in a gale if you're a follower instead of a leader. i am assuming you will devote several hours a day to this endeavor. since you are only starting with 1k each i suspect 100k might exceed your combined take home pay for that same period, so you will see my logic in spending allot of time doing this. it has to be a job and you must be lucky to have this kind of gain. if you are serious, i would add something to the pot out of each paycheck and don't stop until you have your house and have way more than you need to retire. success seldom comes from one quick hit. it comes from a plan that you adhere to with discipline. this could be a good proving ground for how you might handle financial matters in the future. good idea imho.

if it works, let me know where to send a wedding present.

uncle milty


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Mullet - very sensible post, and excellent suggestion to treat it as a job and not as a "lottery long shot". I do spend several hours a day on it, though I would still consider myself more of a follower than a leader (still very new to pennies). I have made mistakes, and I am sure I will make more in the future, but that's the only way to learn a craft.

Will we succeed? My guess is, probably no (at least not to the full 100k). But at the very least I'll learn a lot in the process (maybe enough to succeed on our next go around....)


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I've been following the progress of the ******** site and in seven months they have taken $1000 and turned it into $59000 and they still have 5 months to go to turn their $100,000. They play the pennies. This is the second year they will have done it. I am tempted to give it a try when they start all over again. 1*k*to*100*K

Walt

[This message has been edited by newstockpicker (edited February 02, 2004).]


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I should add that this is not our ONLY investment source... I've got a 401k and a separate IRA, both of which are doing quite nicely on their own (and which are regularly contributed to, at the maximum amounts)

Pennies are DEFINITELY NOT where you want to go for broke... just a nice side area with which to (possibly) supplement your more conservative investments.


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Dazedtrader, if your serious about it, just keep going at it. Even if you dont make it in the 2 years. You may be able to get it sometime after that, or you could get something else in 2 years. Something that would make your lives happier and better. Good luck with it
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Thanks for the encouragement, Grom! I know we'll make it there EVENTUALLY... just a matter of WHEN... LOL

I'd much rather do it at 30 than at 65! ;-)


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No problem. Ya i hear ya. But later is better then never

Either way, at least you will be able to get something out of it. It could be a dream,knowledge,or just a really nice car


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Any chance I can your email Dog?

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Originally posted by dardadog:
THEN FOLLOW DADOG



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quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
I've been following the progress of the ******** site and in seven months they have taken $1000 and turned it into $59000 and they still have 5 months to go to turn their $100,000. They play the pennies. This is the second year they will have done it. I am tempted to give it a try when they start all over again. 1*k*to*100*K

Walt

[This message has been edited by newstockpicker (edited February 02, 2004).]



Newstockerpicker, what site was it that turned 1000 into 59000? If you can't post it on this board, please email me at Jbate217@sbcglobal.net. thanks!


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quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
Mullet - very sensible post, and excellent suggestion to treat it as a job and not as a "lottery long shot". I do spend several hours a day on it, though I would still consider myself more of a follower than a leader (still very new to pennies). I have made mistakes, and I am sure I will make more in the future, but that's the only way to learn a craft.

Will we succeed? My guess is, probably no (at least not to the full 100k). But at the very least I'll learn a lot in the process (maybe enough to succeed on our next go around....)



the first few months are critical. as your balance grows it will be geometric, so dont be discouraged if it is slow at first. i have helped a few friends turn small sums into large ones in around a year. one was a 3k start with a recent 2k addition that has a bal pushing 40k in just over a year. the other a 10k with a 5k addition a month ago also up to about 40k in 6 mos. it can be done, and the fact that you have started the plan is the most important step. it is very hard to think of being older when you are young, and hindsight is 20-20.

just because you are new don't think you wont succeed. there are some brilliant young minds here that consistantly find winners. you can too. just spend the time daily on the mental bow flex and you will get there too.

uncle milty


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Uncle Milty just makes me feel so confident about all of this!
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The first few months are indeed critical - was up about 14% after two weeks, until I made a hasty investment into CYTP (which promptly tanked). That took me down to about 2-3% above starting point. Thanks to PGHI I'm now at about 7% profit after less than a month. Not great, but still respectable.
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quote:
Originally posted by dazedtrader:
That's one thing I've noticed, trading penny stocks... your mind automatically starts converting the prices of everyday "splurge" purchases into shares of penny stocks...

"Forty five dollars for dinner?!? That's 5,320 shares of CDED I could've bought!!!"


Too funny yet true



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Your post reminded me of this site
******** .com

And you are right. The only other way you can make a lot of money fast is in illegal ventures. Keep it penny!

[This message has been edited by bauer (edited February 02, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
I've been following the progress of the ******** site and in seven months they have taken $1000 and turned it into $59000 and they still have 5 months to go to turn their $100,000. They play the pennies. This is the second year they will have done it. I am tempted to give it a try when they start all over again. 1*k*to*100*K

Walt

[This message has been edited by newstockpicker (edited February 02, 2004).]


For what its worth here's my story - I started playing pennies in 2000 and 2001; lost over $55,000. It didn't break me, but it did hurt - I am driving a 10 year old truck. Moved my family to a new state and started a new job in 2002 - rebuilt my savings and stayed away from the stock market (other than what I invest in my 401k every pay day) - even forgot my Ameritade ID and password. Got back into trading in March 2003 and did well with SIRI and DSWT - also started buying some penny stocks again, but was a little smarter - learned from my past mistakes. The $12000 I put in my account since last year is now worth over $25000 thanks to the aforementioned stocks and PGHI which I plan to hold on to for a long while. I will turn 52 years old this year and my goal is to pay off the mortgage and set aside more money for the kids (3) college education. I also like the thrill of trading pennies - can make a lot of money with hard work and some luck.

PS - I am interested in the website you refered to. Can you e-mail the site address to me at kjakobw@aol.com ? Thank you. GLTY.


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quote:
Originally posted by newstockpicker:
I've been following the progress of the ******** site and in seven months they have taken $1000 and turned it into $59000 and they still have 5 months to go to turn their $100,000. They play the pennies. This is the second year they will have done it. I am tempted to give it a try when they start all over again. 1*k*to*100*K

Walt

[This message has been edited by newstockpicker (edited February 02, 2004).]


send me the site at hooctawnfonix@hotmail.com please !


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My story is very simple, after I lost a lot of money in diferents bussiness adventures, more than $300000 in the last 20 years, finally I saw the light and went to REAL STATE, have 4 little houses rented and will be my only income when I retire.- I'm 53 years old . Started trading pennys last week of november 2003, everybody knows I am a very rookie, so far a cautius follower, started with $ 6000 and considered lost, but so far did not do bad at all, have all the money in several stocks and if I sell today everything would get $9800.-
if investing in pennys will first pay off my properties and maybe get a couple more I'll be more than happy.-For the long term I have PGHI and LBTT and if in 2, 3 , 4 , 5 ,6 or 7 years get to what everybody say they will, then ALLELLUYA.
ED
SOONER OR LATER I WILL LEARN

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Can someone please also send me the site richardthan@hotmail.com
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I was told that Penny Trading was the "Wild West" of the investing world.

and...

I always thought of myself as a Cowboy.
Put two and two together, and the rest is history.


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