quote:Originally posted by BetNitAll: Does it mater if it is them or not. Some did some serious buying today. Either way, we have a lot of good things to look forward to this week!
Well, It has been brought up on this board. So yes, to some people here, it does matter if it is them or not. There are several people here stating that PGHI is being traded in Berlin. So...we are just trying to find the truth in the matter.
Otherwise, no it doesn't mean s**t to me when it comes to my shares and the money I have made over the past month.
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It doesn't mater to me if they are on the berlin one or not. I am holding my shares for a while longer.
Stopping flase info is always good though.
quote:Originally posted by delt16: Well, It has been brought up on this board. So yes, to some people here, it does matter if it is them or not. There are several people here stating that PGHI is being traded in Berlin. So...we are just trying to find the truth in the matter.
Otherwise, no it doesn't mean s**t to me when it comes to my shares and the money I have made over the past month.
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It seems too much coincidence that there would be another PGHI. The above mentioned PR says that GTEL.be will be their Berlin exchange id.....just like the PGHI.be we've seen linked here.
Just my opinion, but I think Equitilink is off on this one. Maybe since today was the first active trading day for PGHI on the Berlin exchange..they weren't aware. Seems odd, but they deal with so many companies that maybe its not in their system yet. Looking forward to confirmation from those who emailed JF with the question. I was going to also, but no need to drown him with the same question.
I seem to remember somebody on Allstocks saying Equitilink told them the minimum investment for the PPM was $25,000. Anybody who got the PPM memorandum knows that was way wrong!
Nice day here everyone! Congrats to those riding the breakout!
quote:Originally posted by BetNitAll: Equilink has been wrong in the past. I have dealt with them before and they seem to be a step behind. I don't if this compnay s the same as the oneon the berlin Stock exchange, but there sure is coincidence haveing the same name.
01.09.2004 Point Group Holdings USA requested Unofficial Regulated Market IPO ....found the above at Berlin-Bremen Stock Exchange. http://www.berlinerboerse.de
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This is a very good post from someone over at the Investor Hub site...
understanding level 2.. first you have to realise that nite makes up over 60 percent of all orders filled on the otc.. than you have to know schb runs second... than on the stock you have to pick up which party is doing the raising of the funds..you have a convertible company that is there strictly to sell and where ever there is a convertible you have a company who was hired to push the stock and support the stock...
now the use of TRAC and DATA are very strategic moves on the bid that once was considered pawns by NITE and certain paid promoters before mytrack made this affordable to everyone.. for the most part when you see them and nite on the offer of a non moving stock,it simply is NITE toying with it..
GVRC-identifying this mm is tricky on stocks because he plays an interesting role lately...you must know the history and or find out real quickly from others because this mm i have noticed looks to be a black hole..in saying that he looks to be a heavy weight that some are using now to short... this mm usually is one now that is there at the top of the run..
BAMM-this is a very positive sign to a stock,he however does not have the power of a nite,but does show that the stock is being pushed and you have to be patient to make sure others join..good signal is if mm's like TDCM,VNDM,QUIN follow him
WMIN,UCAP,ACAP,DOMS,AGIS,VFIN-THIS IS WHERE THE BIG AMOUNT OF SHARES TO HIT YOU ARE...
HILL,FRAN,CRWN,WIEN- these are the second tier of mm's,but before mytracks ECN,they were pawns used by NITE to either show strength or weakness to a stock.. HILL AND CRWN usually go together a lot..they can start a run but cant afford to take a bit hit of volume either way without help from schb or nite..
THERE IS NO SUBSTITE FOR HAVING A HISTORY ON A STOCK... when you already know who does what on a stock and its history you have half the battle won..the hard part is diversity in the market,in understanding level 2 and seeing each mm's responsibility on a given day takes away from other stocks you may be interested in.. but if you are going to be a walk down player than it is essential to know who pushed the stock up,who was trying to block the move,where each individual day of the run closed and it where it gapped up to so you can find your marking points to look for on the walkdown...
BROKERAGE FIRM THAT FILLS WHEN YOU NEED IT FILLED... this can not be understated that in the market of misunderstanding you need a firm that allows you options to pick up shares in the last minute before an uptick.. when there are several mm's on the ask you can be wrong or tricked,but you lessen your odds as a stock lightens and you can still get a fill on your stock.. you cant replace history of knowing how long a nite or schb or others take to fill on say a moving FNIX on news... but with an online service that gives you an option to use others options in case one does not fill is an alternative.. this is why i use MYTRACK..
GUT FEELING-unfortuantely after everything you read and learn if you dont get an instinct to what it all means and a feel for the stocks,it wont help..concentrate and learn the signals of who is telling you on the stock it is moving..
if you are going to trade for a living,remember each stock you trade and why you bought,where and who led it,it all comes back in a circle and you will trade it again and the beauty of the otc,probably back to the same prices over time that you did last time..
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01.09.2004 Point Group Holdings USA requested Unofficial Regulated Market IPO
If this is actually the same company, we should see a press release tomorrow on Point Group Holdings being listed on the Berlin Stock Exchange. We shall see. -
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KC- Yeah, made sense to me too. I think the volume was the indicator I missed, volume was really hopping in the morning. Will have to watch and remember that from now on- lesson learned. You might want to go over to omni's thread on I-hub. He details different kind of gapping situations- one he talks about is a "gap and run" which pretty much describes what happened today. Interesting to read and might help out next time.
Though don't get me wrong-this was just a side bet on my part. My "real" play on this are my 500k shares averaged in at around .0356. I bought these other shares to swing, decided to bring over most of the money from other losses because I thought I could recoup my money faster playing this breakout than waiting for the other pps's to go up and sit on stale positions. Actually averaged these swing shares in at about .052 last week and today originally sold at .073, bought back in at .083 and .086, now it is at .093. Missed a penny, but really not bad at all considering. Definitely have recouped my losses. My "real" shares I intend to hold until I find some reason not too. I believe I will be holding onto them for a while, they are looking real good to me at the moment.
KC- IMO .027- .068's not too shabby at all, take that anyday of the week and laugh all the way to the bank.
Cheers, Mike
quote:Originally posted by kcbudman: Wooter- I have to admit, I am right there with you. I have held since .027, until today. With the morning gap on NO NEWS, I thought it would retrace back to .068. I sold all at .075, and had to buy back at .085. Oh, well, that is what I get for thinking I am smarter than the market. I lost a full penny's worth ($1200), but I am still almost tripled up!!! I will never sell again, I will never sell again, I will never sell again........
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Short Term Indicators 7 Day Average Directional Indicator Buy 10 - 8 Day Moving Average Hilo Channel Buy 20 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 20 - 50 Day MACD Oscillator Buy 20 Day Bollinger Bands Buy
Short Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy 20-Day Average Volume - 9052968
Medium Term Indicators 40 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy 50 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 20 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy 50 Day Parabolic Time/Price Buy
Medium Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy 50-Day Average Volume - 8131089
Long Term Indicators 60 Day Commodity Channel Index Buy 100 Day Moving Average vs Price Buy 50 - 100 Day MACD Oscillator Buy
Long Term Indicators Average: 100% - Buy 100-Day Average Volume - 9689382
Man I'm so pumped right now! 1.8M shares, oh yeah baby, oh yeah! LOL
quote:Originally posted by Wooter: Seriously Man, couldn't go to sleep tonight either, rolled out of bed- checked hotmail, msn chat groups, VeeGeez.com......VEEGEEZ.COM!!!!!!!!
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Thats right the new site looks great (minus no DVD's ) Now we spread the word! Veegeez will expload so hold on!
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Yep lets get the subs rolling in. Time to hit the BB Boards. Just have to do it in a way thats relaxed yet freaken excited.
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although the site is great, im suprised they're not advertising something like "DVDS coming SOON!"
but hell im not complaining, we finally got the site. and now it is time to advertise. i had already whipped up my own flyer just before JF sent me one and i think i'll use it instead of that one. just wasn't very appealing.
im gonna hit up my college here and then san diego when i get there this summer. a lot of universities there. with all the support here in this board, i have a feeling Veegeez is gonna get A LOT more attention.
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WOW! This is a nice surprise this morning. ALL BETS ARE OFF on todays PPS. Does anyone know if the site stats are still available? I don't see it. TIA
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bump Great!!!! I have printed 100 of the VeeGeez title page and I going to post them all over town..... Super markets, Meijers, Wallmart, ect... Clay
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