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Purl Gurl
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Being new to micro stocks, I have a question.

Currently, my live feed software is limited
to maximum buys of 10,000 shares, generally,
and 15,000 shares for some prices.

I think E*trade does this to collect extra
commission fees for large orders. I really
don't know. Maybe there is another reason.

E*trade charges extra for telephone orders
which discourages me because commissions
are an important part of my projection
on very tight profit margins, like when
I am working only a one penny move to
make only a hundred bucks in an hour
or so.

Are you boys placing orders by telephone
or using a service which allows very large
block purchases?

Thanks,

Purl Gurl


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purl gurl, I use www.mytradz.com they allow as many shares as you want and a flat fee of 7.95 per trade, no hidden costs. However they are very basic and dont have a lot of features, which is okay for some people. I think this answers your question if it dosnt then im sorry
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PC! Ameritrade charges me $10.99 per trade and can do the trade limit or any way I want!
I have traded more than 1M at one time and still $10.99 over there internet site. No phone call. They have all the features I need (streamer etc). 1st 25 trades are free! You might want to check it out! Have a great trading day Monday!

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Thanks Bazooka!

I am currently at that site looking it over.

This I found:

"Trades greater than or equal to 10,000 shares
will incur a $0.0005/share charge with a
maximum of 1% of the trades principal amount.

Notes: Pennystock trading less than $0.01 and
are a part of an order that is greater than or
equal to 5 million shares will be subject to
additional charges"


This is probably why E*trade does not allow
large block buys through their software.

I will run some numbers through my number
cruncher, and have a look at this.

Thanks, Bazooka, for your help.


Purl Gurl


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Ok, Bart! I am off to look at Ameritrade!

Thanks!

By the way, do you have a brother named Bret?

Purl Gurl


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PurlGirl,

I currently use Ameritrade and Bart is right. As many shares as you want for 10.99. Another good thing is they use all MMs to process shares. From what I understand Etrade only uses 2 MMs therefore it takes longer for your transactions to proccess.

Another one you might want to look at is Freetrade. Ameritrade owns it as well but its a lot cheaper, hince the name "Freetrade." The only difference besides the price is that they only give support via email, not phone. However, I have emailed them and they respond very quickly.

All the big daytraders recommend them because their commisions can't be beat. Check them out at www.freetrade.com

From what I hear they have the same interface as Ameritrade just different colors. I'm going to transfer my cash account to them today and leave my IRA account at Ameritrade so I can still call in for phone support if needed.

GL!

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Ok, Bart! I am off to look at Ameritrade!

Thanks!

By the way, do you have a brother named Bret?

Purl Gurl



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Even though scottrade rips me off at $12 a trade and 1/2% of the principle for otcbb stocks, I have no limit on the amount that I can buy. Purl Gurl, Check out freetrade.com(30 free trades) or lowtrades.com($5 a trade). These shouldn't have any limits.
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???? I read that you needed to have 2 yrs exper. for freetrade. Also, with Ameritrade my only concern is that it takes 3 days from execution of a trade (BUY) for your money to show back up in your acct. No matter when you sell. If you sell 1 day after you got it, your money want appear for two more days.
If 3 days it will go right into your account. Of course if you have a margin acct. no problem! Sorry I forgot to mention this earlier! Good Luck! I do not have a brother my the name of Bret, that I know of!
But, you can never be sure!!!!! Also, the 3 days does not include weekends or holidays!

[This message has been edited by Bart (edited January 24, 2004).]


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Gosh! Great responses! I have a lot of
research to perform! Thank you all.

On the three day delay. This is a result
of a new SEC rule all private investors
must wait seventy-two hours for funds to
be released for stock sales. This is to
help prevent shorting of stock.

You will note, Market Makers, headtraders
and brokers, are completely exempt from
this rule.

What this rule has done for me, is severely
limit my ability to make a profit. What this
rule has done, is to make it easier for
Market Makers to rip-off the public.

I have written hundreds of letters to others,
noted in my posts about the "war" on Market
Makers, along with the SEC. My letters clearly
state this policy reeks of political favors
and corruption on the part of the SEC.

Watch for one of my hysterical rants about
a new NASD rule and obvious loopholes for
abuse, by the big boys on Wall Street.

My viewpoint, I see continuing SEC and NASD
rulings which harm private investors and
enhance abilities of the big boys to
continue with unethical activities.

Thanks to all for information on purchasing
large blocks of micro stocks! I sure others
will add to this thread. I hope so. This
is good information for everyone!

Purl Gurl


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Agree! Oh, my old age is getting to me. Yes I have two brothers Bret and Bow Maverick. How slow I am getting! Thanks
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I just knew you are a silver tongued bottom
deck dealing devil!

I like you already!


Purl Gurl


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My Etrade is 9.99 with no limits at all. There is a per share fee if you use the ECM's for after hours trades in the pennys.
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give ChoiceTrade a call, ask about the ChoiceTrader platform, should be only 5 bucks a trade for an unlimited amount of shares.
www.choicetrade.com

i can't use them because i am Canadian. :O(


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PurlGirl is right. The 3 day thing is an SEC rule that applies to all "cash" accounts. It applies to repurchasing of the same stock only. However, if you get a margin account, which is all Freetrade offers, then the 3 day rule does not apply.

All you have to do is sign up for margin. You never have to use it but it gives you the benefit of turning your cash back into the same security immediately.


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Same for Ameritrade. Margin = as many buy/sells in a day that you can make with the same money! Just don't buy on margin, use it only to have cash available instantly.
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Bliss, a minor correction.

All funds from stock sales are held in
"escrow" for seventy-hours. You can
withdraw the funds, but you cannot use
those funds to buy stock, any stock,
at least according to some brokers
interpretation of the rule.

This rule is only suppose to apply to
"pattern day traders" but I find this
rule is applied to all investors. Their
is interest profit to be made off cash
deposited in personal accounts. Brokers
are motivated to hold that cash for as
long as possible to earn interest profit.
So, this rule is applied to everyone to
retain cash deposits for extra interest.

You see? A new rule which works against
private investors and benefits brokers
with significant profits. This is, in my
estimation, legal SEC corruption.

Wording of the rule leads you to believe
this only applies to buying the same stock
from which funds are generated. This applies
to any stock. You simply cannot use those
funds to buy, for seventy-two hours.

I tried a trick by wiring my funds out of
my account, then wiring those funds right
back in. Didn't work. E*trade now has a
policy of a seventy-hour hold on wired
in funds, along with earmarking funds
wired in as "unsettled" for ten days,
according to their customer service.

No doubt policies vary from broker to
broker. Check your own broker policies
on this, to be sure you know where you
stand on this new and abused rule.

I just accept this as I cannot use my
funds and profit funds, to roll over
back into purchasing. So now I have to
manage our funds better, this is, time
my buys and sells so I will always have
some cash funds available, with due
consideration given to a three day delay.

Again, Market Makers, headtraders, brokers
and off-shore brokers, are exempt from
this rule. This new rule only applies
to the American investing public. The
SEC policy is private investors are
criminals and we are responsible for
a majority of stock related problems.

I am insulted and quite indignant.


Purl Gurl


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Purl...

I use E-TRADE and I have purchased in the millions with no problems...$9.95 a trade
no surcharges at all....I have for the most part received all my buy & sells promptly...I have just applied for a FREETRADE account also and I will use both..I like using the margin account on E-Trade as that allows instant access to your funds which eliminates the SEC 3 day rule..I will use FREETRADE because they utilize 6 MM's as compared to the 2MM's used by E-Trade.

TRSTURGUT-18


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That's "seventy-two hours" not seventy-hours!

GAK! * blows smoke off her fingers *

This is hazard of typing at Warp 9 or greater.

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TRSTURGUT-18, I will take another look at
my software. I use both "pro" level live
feed and their web interface. Maybe it is
just the live feed which won't accept orders
for more than 10,000 shares, although I did
once get it to accept 15,000 shares.

I will try an order through the web interface,
next time I want to try large orders. Many
times I want to buy 50,000 shares and cannot.
Perhaps through the web interface, I can.

Kinda wondering if E*trade limits pro level
software to generate more commission fees.
Might be just a glitch I experienced.

Ya know, I am going to call them and directly
ask about this. Something is fishy.

Thank you, TRSTURGUT, for pointing this out.
Looks like I tricked myself into this limit
or E*trade is deliberately doing this for
the pro level software.

Purl Gurl


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I use an Ameritrade cash account right now and I can sell one stock and use the money the same day for a different stock. However, I can't use the money for same stock for 72 hours. I know this from experience.
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Iggy I use My Track and it is the same thing for me. By the way, My Track is $12.95 per trade and the upper limit of shares is one million. Anything more than that and you have to do a seperate trade and pay another $12.95.

Walt

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I use an Ameritrade cash account right now and I can sell one stock and use the money the same day for a different stock. However, I can't use the money for same stock for 72 hours. I know this from experience.


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purl,

i like ameritrade. i tried to open a freetrade acct to use along side the ameritrade features, but they dont habla espanol or just dont like foriegners. couldn't open the acct with freetrade with a non usa address. oh well.... i guess the 10.99 commissions are ok since i usually buy and sell in $2-5k blocks. you will like ameritrade/datek features, which are free with a minimum balance.

good luck

uncle milty


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Purl,
I use Freetrade and Scottrade and am very happy with both. Freetrade however, is the one I consider best for the pennies and subpennies.
Kaged

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Another plus with Ameritrade, Purl, is if you have more than 10 trades a month in a 3 month period ( or have an account with a value of $100,000) you qualify for their Apex designation. You get lots of stuff for free such as level 2 quotes. Check it out.
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To all, thank you for your great information.
I know a lot more now and can make better
decisions on this topic.

All benefit from your input and I am sure
all appreciate your efforts. Thank you!


Purl Gurl


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I use Ameritrade and like it except I can't trade Pink Sheet. Does anyone else have this limitation?

Jim



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Don't use LOWTRADES - they just added a 1% misc.fees for big quantities (and is not written in their web - is it legal???)
CHOICETRADE has still $5.- and nothing else (must check before)

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quote:
Originally posted by Junky:
give ChoiceTrade a call, ask about the ChoiceTrader platform, should be only 5 bucks a trade for an unlimited amount of shares.
www.choicetrade.com

i can't use them because i am Canadian. :O(


Is it true you need $25,000 to open an account?


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I use ETRADE and Purl Gurl on the Etrade Pro you can only buy in blocks of 10K but if u got to the site you can buy a unlimited #. Thats what I use to do, when I played the subs.
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