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darewood
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question for you smart guys. are any of you daytrading this stock, i mean like today i started to sell my shares at .046 and try to get back in lower which would have worked out great. only thing is from the way most of you are talking i'm afraid if i do sell that it will end up taking off and never dropping any. but everyday it has went up into the 4's it has consolidated back to the lower 4's. just wondering what you guys are doing and if this is a good idea
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Well, looks like another restless night, all I will be able to think about is if there will be a PR tomorrow.

And if there isn't how fast can I wire money to my account.

Good Luck to All!


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I wired money today, it really sucked waiting for it to come in today, last I heard, I should have it by morning, just in time for another run and pr

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Well, looks like another restless night, all I will be able to think about is if there will be a PR tomorrow.

And if there isn't how fast can I wire money to my account.

Good Luck to All!



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Don't know about you guy but I am either going ot be very wealthy or very broke pretty soon, have a lot in this baby and getting some more tommorow, talk about a sleepless night
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Darewood... I think you could day trade this... but watch out... if a PR is released... the stock will really move and you will end up chasing it up dramatically. I think daytrading it you could may 5-10% at a time... but a good run will take it up 100%+ fast... And when it runs... try getting a fill... MM walk right over you. Every day trading this is different... I think you just need to use your best judgement daily... mach

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question for you smart guys. are any of you daytrading this stock, i mean like today i started to sell my shares at .046 and try to get back in lower which would have worked out great. only thing is from the way most of you are talking i'm afraid if i do sell that it will end up taking off and never dropping any. but everyday it has went up into the 4's it has consolidated back to the lower 4's. just wondering what you guys are doing and if this is a good idea


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hopefully all will be well and we will be rich soon, dont lose sleep on this stock, dream about how you're gonna buy a villa in hawaii and that'll put you to sleep quick!!

one thing is techs dont lie, and all indicators are pointed up


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Bet... Here's a bit of confidence building for you. Remember this... Stocks do not go straight up... they go up and down daily... the good thing here is that the long term trend is up... all the techs support a breakout beyond current levels...

This has all been accomplished without news... so we can also expect that hot news will send us up dramatically.

I do not see you broke at all holding this stock... as a matter of fact Im confident saying that within the weeks ahead... you will at least achieve a 100% return... Don't be fooled by the up and down days... The down days with PGHI have always been weak.. as noted a few days ago... when we loaded up at .031... and the up days and reversals have always been dramatic. This stock is hot and very bullish and has a long way to go... Have a quick look at NetFlix if you need a basis of comparison... Same basic concept... and NetFlix surged from $4 to $60 in about a year! The future's so bright. mach


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Don't know about you guy but I am either going ot be very wealthy or very broke pretty soon, have a lot in this baby and getting some more tommorow, talk about a sleepless night


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This was taken from http://groups.msn.com/PGHI-MoneyCentral/general.msnw?action=get_threads

Hope John Fleming is much better at business than grammar!

***********************

From : John Fleming <ceo@pghi.biz>
Reply-To : "John Fleming" <ceo@pghi.biz>
Sent : Sunday, December 7, 2003 7:00 PM
To : "William" <xxxxx@msn.com>
Subject : Re: PGHI Offers Private Placement

William,

Because I feel that Shareholders have the right to ask questions that otherwise may not be release as quickly to non-shareholders I like to verify an e-mail as coming from a shareholder and not from some other source. I.e. Gamefly, netflix or others.

I have been a founder in the following two company:

GLXS trading today at $.35
MLRI trading today at $.425

During the operation of AFI-Capital we worked for other companies, not always, as the funding source, but rather SEC compliance.

It is my experience that many CEO do not even communicate with shareholders, so I desire to know whom I am writing. I work for the shareholders and therefore are very willing to communicate with them, however, when my communications get posted on RB or other such sites I question my wisdom in such actions.

By folks posting information before the company releases it can cause problems and tends to take the punch out of spending $ for PRs.

John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
3744 Poe Street
San Diego, CA 92107
Tel: 619.269.8692
Fax: 619.374.2842 www.pghi.biz
-------Original Message-------

From: william
Date: 12/7/2003 5:46:29 AM
To: John Fleming
Subject: Re: PGHI Offers Private Placement

I have ponder this question with me self and the wife, seeing its half her money we are curious why you need so much personnel information, weather I am a investor or a potential investor, like I have stated before that my group of investors need more reinsurance and I am helping them and future investors along with staying in good standing with the existing investors. But seeing you have really gone out of your way I will go against my wife and what she wants and tell you that I am well invested here, maybe not as much as most investors adding more every week, my address is public and could be looked up by anyone seeing you have my name.

Seeing we have that out of the way can you give me any references to your prior investments, you say you have 30 yrs experience and use stock to fund companies, seeing that the share holders are helping fund the company can you give me more reinsurance on our part. Is this normal? I have heard of some companies using funding with / stock to such companies like Cornell Capital Group and MOBL not that this company has done any wrong but I have heard of such companies getting destroying by large holding groups, like the CEO and share holders hands are tied, especially when they have such a large amount of shares. Like I said I am still learning.

I have been investing for about 3 yrs and have never been ask by a CEO for such information when it comes to my personnel info, but 3 yrs I still am learning.

Thanks.


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anybody seen this yet? http://www.fleming-asoc.com/home.html

John Fleming's venture capital firm. Notice Naturally Safe mentioned here: http://www.fleming-asoc.com/credits.html which is the link to confirm these are the same people


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Adren, and this means???? I don't understand what this means to this stock.
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My wire came in, looking at tommorow. Hopefully any pr will come a little later in the day, 10 mins is all I need to get loaded up
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I've heard about this a lot, and seen it in trading- where did it originate? Or in other words, where did you get it from? I'm guessing from a MM book which I haven't bought.

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There's another 500 sale at the ask (.043). Still watching to see if these MM signals are accurate:


100 sale means MM needs shares
200 sale means MM needs shares bad-lot of orders he cannot cover
300 sale means MM is going to take price down to get shares
400 sale means trade sideways
500 sale gapping up or down depending on which way the sale went



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Cabbage...

I believe PSU found it on another site.

Here's the link: http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1820318

mach

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I've heard about this a lot, and seen it in trading- where did it originate? Or in other words, where did you get it from? I'm guessing from a MM book which I haven't bought.



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Mach,
Can you tell me how rich were going to be again. I especially like it when you talk about .30 to 1.00 range. It'll help us all sleep a little better.

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I hope you're right. I'm hearing a lot of noise on the net regarding a possible PR release tommorrow morning. We shall see. mach

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My wire came in, looking at tommorow. Hopefully any pr will come a little later in the day, 10 mins is all I need to get loaded up


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Bet'n...

O.K. If you are to become a true long... I can elaborate. This baby is poised for a big move. imho... it has several things going for it that are a super plus.

One includes the business model: Similar to NetFlix... and it actually appears to be better... Given that NetFlix is trading above $50 now... it's not unrealistic to think that we can in fact be trading in the $Dollars range within the next year.

Second: The fact that we have been trading up on no news at all is an indication of what will happen when there is actually positive news released... to the moon!

Third: I love the fact that we are talking .com here. .com's have taken off once again in the past year or so. If you want to look at a good trading pattern for a .com that recently moved from subpenny to .30 in less than 3 months... look at zkid... They have a sloppy site... but there stock exploded... There are many other examples... but keep in mind NetFlix... which surged from $4 to $60.... How many people made millions trading this stock.

4th: Industry: I posted an article written in Fortune this past weekend... It's on this thread and it talks... about where the big money will be generated soon... the "new thing" video games... My point... we are in the right market....

5th: On that note: The corporate name will be changed to gameznflix.com... That name itself has this ring... this catch... to it that says... I'm going to be hot!!!!!!

6th: The overall market is hot and pulling up anything and everything with it... especially the bb stocks.

6th: The techs support an enormous move forthcoming.... I predict a that we will see .30 within the next 8 weeks on a very explosive move... This will not be overnight... and yes there will be many ups and downs... and head fakes... and people wondering what to do... but if you hold strong ... you will be greatly rewarded...

There are too many times in the past few years that I could have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on stock picks... and simply missed that opportunity. And I will not miss this one.... This is one of the biggest opportunities you may ever see in your life... and when we make our hundreds of thousands... we will celebrate somewhere in the world... and I have a feeling that it's not too far away.

So when you buy... hold strong and don't let anyone shake your shares and you will be greatly rewarded. I usually recommend stocks as a short term buy with 50-100% potential... but if you note my original post here... the very first post... I predicted a potential 10000% gain from .02 where I entered which is $2.00. We may find someday... that that was an understatement.

I will stand behind this stock on the up days... and more so... on the down days... stay strong. Patience will pay.

Excuse my grammar,

mach

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Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Mach,
Can you tell me how rich were going to be again. I especially like it when you talk about .30 to 1.00 range. It'll help us all sleep a little better.


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I looooooove it. Listen, When we are ALL rich we should celebrate someplace nice. We will have to go to Mexico and bother uncle mitty. Thanx Mach
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Gurus -

I pumped in some more money in ameritrade account today , Is it good Idea to but some now.

quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Bet'n...

O.K. If you are to become a true long... I can elaborate. This baby is poised for a big move. imho... it has several things going for it that are a super plus.

One includes the business model: Similar to NetFlix... and it actually appears to be better... Given that NetFlix is trading above $50 now... it's not unrealistic to think that we can in fact be trading in the $Dollars range within the next year.

Second: The fact that we have been trading up on no news at all is an indication of what will happen when there is actually positive news released... to the moon!

Third: I love the fact that we are talking .com here. .com's have taken off once again in the past year or so. If you want to look at a good trading pattern for a .com that recently moved from subpenny to .30 in less than 3 months... look at zkid... They have a sloppy site... but there stock exploded... There are many other examples... but keep in mind NetFlix... which surged from $4 to $60.... How many people made millions trading this stock.

4th: Industry: I posted an article written in Fortune this past weekend... It's on this thread and it talks... about where the big money will be generated soon... the "new thing" video games... My point... we are in the right market....

5th: On that note: The corporate name will be changed to gameznflix.com... That name itself has this ring... this catch... to it that says... I'm going to be hot!!!!!!

6th: The overall market is hot and pulling up anything and everything with it... especially the bb stocks.

6th: The techs support an enormous move forthcoming.... I predict a that we will see .30 within the next 8 weeks on a very explosive move... This will not be overnight... and yes there will be many ups and downs... and head fakes... and people wondering what to do... but if you hold strong ... you will be greatly rewarded...

There are too many times in the past few years that I could have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on stock picks... and simply missed that opportunity. And I will not miss this one.... This is one of the biggest opportunities you may ever see in your life... and when we make our hundreds of thousands... we will celebrate somewhere in the world... and I have a feeling that it's not too far away.

So when you buy... hold strong and don't let anyone shake your shares and you will be greatly rewarded. I usually recommend stocks as a short term buy with 50-100% potential... but if you note my original post here... the very first post... I predicted a potential 10000% gain from .02 where I entered which is $2.00. We may find someday... that that was an understatement.

I will stand behind this stock on the up days... and more so... on the down days... stay strong. Patience will pay.

Excuse my grammar,

mach



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Mach is right....that is the link where I found the signals. I'd heard about them but this was the first I'd seen them described. I havn't had enough experience watching them myself to know if they are accurate.

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Cabbage...

I believe PSU found it on another site.

Here's the link: http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=1820318

mach



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Boy Coumars... You've been buying this every day. You must own half the company by now. If it's a down day tommorrow... buy... if it's an up day... boy... I would say... pray for a pullback... If there is hot news... a breakout could occur and we could be in another trading range. Use your best judgement. mach

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Gurus -

I pumped in some more money in ameritrade account today , Is it good Idea to but some now.



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PSU... what's going on? I've heard a lot of people talking about a potential PR tommorrow. What's your take? Do you think it will happen? And of course... what do you think it will be regarding. I can assume the PPM... possibly the new distribution center... which would be huge news. mach

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Mach is right....that is the link where I found the signals. I'd heard about them but this was the first I'd seen them described. I havn't had enough experience watching them myself to know if they are accurate.



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Dang Mach.....now I'm going to have to go raise all my GTC's I had set for this between .20 and 1.25!

Anybody here used westernunion.com to wire funds to Ameritrade? I saw the banner at the top of the page earlier today.

quote:
Originally posted by machtabow2:
Bet'n...

O.K. If you are to become a true long... I can elaborate. This baby is poised for a big move. imho... it has several things going for it that are a super plus.

One includes the business model: Similar to NetFlix... and it actually appears to be better... Given that NetFlix is trading above $50 now... it's not unrealistic to think that we can in fact be trading in the $Dollars range within the next year.

Second: The fact that we have been trading up on no news at all is an indication of what will happen when there is actually positive news released... to the moon!

Third: I love the fact that we are talking .com here. .com's have taken off once again in the past year or so. If you want to look at a good trading pattern for a .com that recently moved from subpenny to .30 in less than 3 months... look at zkid... They have a sloppy site... but there stock exploded... There are many other examples... but keep in mind NetFlix... which surged from $4 to $60.... How many people made millions trading this stock.

4th: Industry: I posted an article written in Fortune this past weekend... It's on this thread and it talks... about where the big money will be generated soon... the "new thing" video games... My point... we are in the right market....

5th: On that note: The corporate name will be changed to gameznflix.com... That name itself has this ring... this catch... to it that says... I'm going to be hot!!!!!!

6th: The overall market is hot and pulling up anything and everything with it... especially the bb stocks.

6th: The techs support an enormous move forthcoming.... I predict a that we will see .30 within the next 8 weeks on a very explosive move... This will not be overnight... and yes there will be many ups and downs... and head fakes... and people wondering what to do... but if you hold strong ... you will be greatly rewarded...

There are too many times in the past few years that I could have made hundreds of thousands of dollars on stock picks... and simply missed that opportunity. And I will not miss this one.... This is one of the biggest opportunities you may ever see in your life... and when we make our hundreds of thousands... we will celebrate somewhere in the world... and I have a feeling that it's not too far away.

So when you buy... hold strong and don't let anyone shake your shares and you will be greatly rewarded. I usually recommend stocks as a short term buy with 50-100% potential... but if you note my original post here... the very first post... I predicted a potential 10000% gain from .02 where I entered which is $2.00. We may find someday... that that was an understatement.

I will stand behind this stock on the up days... and more so... on the down days... stay strong. Patience will pay.

Excuse my grammar,

mach



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I have been carried by the way you guys give technical details. I want to buy some more if possible at 0.041 and wait. Every 5 mins , I read your's and machtabow2 postings.

If I win , I win b'cos of you Gurus, If I lose , That's my bad luck.

Thanks-

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Boy Coumars... You've been buying this every day. You must own half the company by now. If it's a down day tommorrow... buy... if it's an up day... boy... I would say... pray for a pullback... If there is hot news... a breakout could occur and we could be in another trading range. Use your best judgement. mach



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Right now I'd say the odds are 99% in favor of a PR tomorrow. I think it will be about the Kentucky location. Not sure if the PPM is ready for PR or not.


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PSU... what's going on? I've heard a lot of people talking about a potential PR tommorrow. What's your take? Do you think it will happen? And of course... what do you think it will be regarding. I can assume the PPM... possibly the new distribution center... which would be huge news. mach



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Remember this from earlier:

From: I_likegames (Original Message) Sent: 12/7/2003 7:54 PM
John is the best >

Thanks and look for a PR on Tuesday. I am writing it now about the move.

Cheers,

John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
3744 Poe Street
San Diego, CA 92107
Tel: 619.269.8692
Fax: 619.374.2842 www.pghi.biz


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Well as long as everyone here understands and is prepared for daily ups and downs... with no expectations of a straight shot to the moon... although that would be nice... then you will do just fine.

PSU has been through the downs more than myself... but I've seen a few down days... recently when we had a few weak hands... only to find out that the stock actually moved up dramatically after the pullback...

Find a good entry... be strong... and hold for the big gains. Great expectations here... and I have a feeling that it will be sooner than later. mach

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Originally posted by coumars:
I have been carried by the way you guys give technical details. I want to buy some more if possible at 0.041 and wait. Every 5 mins , I read your's and machtabow2 postings.

If I win , I win b'cos of you Gurus, If I lose , That's my bad luck.

Thanks-



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PSU... this looks good to me... I guess I'm getting anxious.... It really doesn't matter which day these PR's are released... at least we know and anticipate what is about to happen here. Thanks. mach

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Originally posted by PSU90:
Remember this from earlier:

From: I_likegames (Original Message) Sent: 12/7/2003 7:54 PM
John is the best >

Thanks and look for a PR on Tuesday. I am writing it now about the move.

Cheers,

John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
3744 Poe Street
San Diego, CA 92107
Tel: 619.269.8692
Fax: 619.374.2842 www.pghi.biz



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Its good to know that even you get a little anxious

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PSU... this looks good to me... I guess I'm getting anxious.... It really doesn't matter which day these PR's are released... at least we know and anticipate what is about to happen here. Thanks. mach



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PSU.. Where did you find this, is there a link


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Remember this from earlier:

From: I_likegames (Original Message) Sent: 12/7/2003 7:54 PM
John is the best >

Thanks and look for a PR on Tuesday. I am writing it now about the move.

Cheers,

John Fleming
CEO/President
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated
3744 Poe Street
San Diego, CA 92107
Tel: 619.269.8692
Fax: 619.374.2842 www.pghi.biz



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I really like the excitement of this thread. More than when CYTP made the big run... That one ran for a 1000% gain! Wow did we burn that thread! I think this thread will run for a long time to come. Yes... I'm anxious... but have learned in the past to be somewhat patient. I wonder where MAV is tonight? He's usually wired about now... going crazy... unable to sleep. MAV where are u? mach

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Its good to know that even you get a little anxious



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Mach....I will owe you big time for convincing me to get back in when you did. I would have waited for the .02's after my jump.....and I would have missed my reentry at the same level I sold. Thank you again for that. All this after I had said just the day before that I wouldn't sell......LOL!

From experience....the head fakes got me a few months ago or I'd have twice as many shares as I do now. Ahhh, if only I could get in at .008 again. People will be saying that about the .04's after tomorrow!

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PSU has been through the downs more than myself...



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I can sure feel the excitment, going back and forth from Monday night football to the thread. Big game for the Seahawks, they need the Rams to lose to the Browns Go Browns. Big game for us to, go PGHI.
What seems interesting to me is the fact that we will PROBABLLY have a pr release in the near future and then the new web site will be up around the end of the year, so there is another release. They could really spread these releases far enough apart as to keep the momentum going. Plus we are looking at 10000 for the DOW.

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I really like the excitement of this thread. More than when CYTP made the big run... That one ran for a 1000% gain! Wow did we burn that thread! I think this thread will run for a long time to come. Yes... I'm anxious... but have learned in the past to be somewhat patient. I wonder where MAV is tonight? He's usually wired about now... going crazy... unable to sleep. MAV where are u? mach



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http://groups.msn.com/PGHI-MoneyCentral/_messageboard.msnw

Personally, I don't really think it was right of this guy to post his personal emails on open websites. I think John Fleming is a little disturbed by it as noted in the email posted in this thread (taken from the site linked here). But, the info is out there...so we may as well read it.

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PSU.. Where did you find this, is there a link




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No problem PSU... I like the support on this thread. Yes... I think we will see down days again... whether it is tommorrow or the next day... as long as people see and learn how strong this stock is... and dont mistakenly fall for the shake... Yes... We are up at least 10 points since you almost sold... and that was in less than 48 hours... Amazing how fast a hot stock can reverse a downtrend. The reality is that we will move up... consolidate... move up... consolidate... I haven't seen anything to indicate a reversal as of now... We are trading strong and continue to trade in the the upper BOLLINGER BAND... which is usually unheard of... for the length of time that we've done it... more than two months. This is super bullish and tells me that we have much higher to go before we begin a consolidation period... as happened after the first breakout... Note that there was a breakout... consolidation for two weeks... and then a huge upside explosion in days... this baby is bullish... and only really negative news will change that... mach

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Mach....I will owe you big time for convincing me to get back in when you did. I would have waited for the .02's after my jump.....and I would have missed my reentry at the same level I sold. Thank you again for that. All this after I had said just the day before that I wouldn't sell......LOL!

From experience....the head fakes got me a few months ago or I'd have twice as many shares as I do now. Ahhh, if only I could get in at .008 again. People will be saying that about the .04's after tomorrow!



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Hey Mach, I AM working on some new picks trying to take my mind away from PGHI for at least a few minutes.

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I really like the excitement of this thread. More than when CYTP made the big run... That one ran for a 1000% gain! Wow did we burn that thread! I think this thread will run for a long time to come. Yes... I'm anxious... but have learned in the past to be somewhat patient. I wonder where MAV is tonight? He's usually wired about now... going crazy... unable to sleep. MAV where are u? mach



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