quote:Originally posted by glassman: when i deal with my human broker? they get upset because i often tell them when my trades execute... and i do stay on the phone till it does...
they are like "how did you do that?".. i just laugh
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they realise they aren't getting as much commission from me as they could be... but i got online cuz they were charging as much as $300 a trade.... and? for the longest time? they would not tell me how they calculated commissions.... now? they charge a lot less... but still too much..
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: they realise they aren't getting as much commission from me as they could be... but i got online cuz they were charging as much as $300 a trade.... and? for the longest time? they would not tell me how they calculated commissions.... now? they charge a lot less... but still too much..
My uncle was originally buying through my cousin at UBS and they were charging him $1,000 per trade. He started buying snd selling Online because it saved him a bundle. He was only dealing with the bigger boards prior to me finding the pennies.
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i shouldn't post this: but i just have to... it is the funniest thing i've read at ihub ever...
Posted by: TallRob0 In reply to: ******* who wrote msg# 80967 Date:9/23/2006 12:11:36 AM Post #of 80978
spoken like a true basher/shorter,.,,,,,,the following MULTIPLE 8Ks next week along with the 10K will blow people away,,,,You have no guidance on this stock,,you only think you do.Oh yeah,. ALL shorters MUST cover,its in the rules..... come Monday, BUY THE CRAP OUT OF IT!...........Yoll be RICH! or RICHER than you presently ARE!............Ask yourself this. Why is this board filled with bashers from canada, germany, slovenia and the banned from allstocks and other message Boards...............Just ask yourself that,,and youll be richer than you are now.
i know, my sense of humor is well different.... but that is funny...
i am gonna have to look into how more shorting can be done legally on this stock cuz a couple of the bashers seem to think more shorting is coming...
i don't think there's any way to borrow shares without finding some that aren't already loaned out or just plain non-existent...
i don't know why i bother even reading some of this crap. they haven't been right yet...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: i shouldn't post this: but i just have to... it is the funniest thing i've read at ihub ever...
Posted by: TallRob0 In reply to: ******* who wrote msg# 80967 Date:9/23/2006 12:11:36 AM Post #of 80978
spoken like a true basher/shorter,.,,,,,,the following MULTIPLE 8Ks next week along with the 10K will blow people away,,,,You have no guidance on this stock,,you only think you do.Oh yeah,. ALL shorters MUST cover,its in the rules..... come Monday, BUY THE CRAP OUT OF IT!...........Yoll be RICH! or RICHER than you presently ARE!............Ask yourself this. Why is this board filled with bashers from canada, germany, slovenia and the banned from allstocks and other message Boards...............Just ask yourself that,,and youll be richer than you are now.
i know, my sense of humor is well different.... but that is funny...
i am gonna have to look into how more shorting can be done legally on this stock cuz a couple of the bashers seem to think more shorting is coming...
i don't think there's any way to borrow shares without finding some that aren't already loaned out or just plain non-existent...
i don't know why i bother even reading some of this crap. they haven't been right yet...
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in July? i came in here and told people that i was watching this stock get shorted.
and people told me "you can't short a penny" people that are "seasoned traders and experienced investors" just "knew" you can't short anything under 5$...hmmmm...
and i said "i know what i'm watching" and "i know you can short anything you want if you can pay" they said rude nasty things to me....
well? as of right now? there are a lot of OTHER people that also know that pennies can be shorted legally and other wise....
yeah bashers are a myth... haah... what a joke...
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Crap to us who has TDA, so even if the price goes up later, we won't be able to sell b/c TDA won't let us sell, unless we lower the price so they can cover cheap? WTF..
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well? i am glad that Rufus was able to prove what was/is going on.... Rufus has "blown the cover" of the pennystock shorting biz....
even if he fails?... and i hope he succeeds, he has proven beyond a shadow of doubt that Naked Shorting is not just happening, but is beyond anything reasonable in some cases and in this case too...
naked shorts are only legal for liquidity... this idea that it's OK to NS Rufus cuz he's not legit is way out of line...
legal shorting is very expensive to do....
you have to put up colateral, and you have to pay interest on the stock you borrow...
serfie and some others make it sound easy.... naked shorters are breaking the law, and deserve to be treated that way...
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thought id bring over the newest cryptic TUT message since we havent confirmed or discredited him yet:
Originally Posted by tutankhamen
I am back and hopefully you will be able to put out another "fire". Shareholders stand united and do not overanalyze. The enemy is looking for more weapons to use to twist and tear at your belief and they will do that until the very last moment. Show them you have gone past that and are just not interested anymore. If you ignore their attempts they will begin to disappear. Now I see there is debate over numbers on the NOBO list. Without telling you who I am I will at least tell you I am speaking from solid experience. First understand the enemy is infiltrating many different ranks and can extend much further into the very fabric of the financial industry itself. This thought is for most investors just completely unfathomable, but it exists in very real terms. Originally there was a "delay" created with the change in CUSIP number. Was it an accident? Now there is a NOBO list produced by ADP that "may or may not" be wrong? Ask yourself is this just coincidence or? Now let me tell you from experience that the numbers on the NOBO list could actually be highly understated even as they are. Does someone want to make the list less powerful, less effective? There is and has been a long and bitter ongoing fight against naked shorting that is finally but slowly beginning to expose the very institutions that were designed to create the illusion that they protect individual investors. The fight is finally coming to a head with Congressman, some of the top legal teams in North America and the media becoming more involved against it and in the process some very dirty laundry is becoming exposed. In short what I am saying is that the naked short position on CSHD is in all likelihood even higher than the original NOBO list instead of being "mistakenly" lower. With that said you should forget the arguments about the NOBO list because in reality there is definitely a very serious short position and its day of reckoning has come. That is why there is such a serious and highly orchestrated attempt to bring down your belief. Yes there will be a short squeeze but this is not why we are invested in the company.
We are here because of what all your due diligence has shown you this company will be worth and the continued growth beyond the initial price reset. We are not in this for a short squeeze. That is a secondary or added spice that just gives this some addtional flavour like some added gravy. Your reason for being shareholders is what the company can do for your future financial well being and because it presents what is now becoming potentially a "once in a lifetime" opportunity that many of you may never see again. Remember you either with or without.
The "beginning" of the new week could be interesting.
This is only just the beginning Remember.
Those that stand before me will live. Those that stand with their backs to me will perish. The wings of the Phoenix will open soon enough and all will be revealed.
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The fight is finally coming to a head with Congressman, some of the top legal teams in North America and the media becoming more involved against it and in the process some very dirty laundry is becoming exposed
yeah this part here is right on...
if we got out 1000 letters to senators and congressmen? that will help... thats actually alot from what i hear..
as many problems as i have with Bush? i would have liked to see some Soc. Sec. reforms...with at least some money going to the market...
the market didn't even want it...
if they had? it would have happened, Bush can't resist his market buddies....
they didn't want it because it would lead to more oversight....
i hope that Rufus gets his filings together on-time so this can go forward strongly...
if it doesn't? the NSers will just say "see i tolja so" and even tho they have abused their OWN CUSTOMERS they will still feel justifed, or at least pretend to be....
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The part im referring to. What do ya'all suppose he means by this?
"Rufus has taken money from anyone who was stupid enough to trust him.... including the one person even the lowest of cons should never take advantage of..."
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If you are placing All or None orders. don't give it the credence that you are. I have tried this before and have found that once I change the order, it fills very rapidly. I also can tell you that TODAY I placed an order above the ask on 2 different stocks and it took 20 minutes for them to fill. Do MM's manipulate and play games. Oh heck yes. But I think that until they decide they have to cover on CSHD the volume will be low and the movement will follow. Just my take nothing more.
GLTA Wally
No all or none orders Wally, just mixed messages.....
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I'm wondering if he is talking about "the Church"....
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: O ur street is a weirdo, it just freaks me out how he is at it nearly every waking minute of the day....and later!
But, anyway....i found this post strange, even for him.
The part im referring to. What do ya'all suppose he means by this?
"Rufus has taken money from anyone who was stupid enough to trust him.... including the one person even the lowest of cons should never take advantage of..."
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I'm wondering if he is talking about "the Church"....
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: O ur street is a weirdo, it just freaks me out how he is at it nearly every waking minute of the day....and later!
But, anyway....i found this post strange, even for him.
The part im referring to. What do ya'all suppose he means by this?
"Rufus has taken money from anyone who was stupid enough to trust him.... including the one person even the lowest of cons should never take advantage of..."
But.. "The Church" is the "body" of believers, not just one.. unless our street being the sleeze he is and not knowing about spiritual things is saying a church = God...
-then maybe, that would make sense 10...
Either way, we have one heck of a PR's week to look forward to!!!
Didn't I post the info that AG Edwards was not allowing their customers to buy this stock and haven't since day 1.
They are on the short list... imagine that.
i missed that and i'm glad you pointed that out...
what i think about the "bashers"?
i think they are mostly involved in heavy shorting and that IS why i have been going over to iHub and reading.... what surprised me most was how many of them are identities with long term credibility...
whether it's them working as individuals or they are in a "hedge group"? i don't know yet... i am hoping Rufus will be able to expose it all...
the "bashers" try to equate this to sub-penny plays... some of them even say stupid things like: this stock is going right back to sub-penny land.
LOL this stock never was in sub-penny land... and with an OS of 100 million shares or so? it doesn't belong in sub-penny land... it didn't when it was FHAL and it was nearly BKRPT...
remember? QBID and CMK? were pinkies... and i know some of you played them, but there is a world of difference between the OTC and the OTCBB...
sourstreets post is the latest in a long string of accusations that just haven't panned out... read where sourstreet lives. and why... Rufus lives in Georgia... and if this is a con? he'll have to leave..
what i think about Rufus?
i've said this before: i've seen enough plays to know the PPS is not being held up by magic...
the "bashers" have tried every trick in the book and even come up with a few new ones... if they were confident that Rufus couldn't do it? they wouldn't be this desparate.. they have made up a lot of reasons why Rufus can't do this... none of them are conclusive...
Rufus has alot of things he MUST make happen, and if he has the right PEOPLE behind him? he can do this...
the incredible amount of short-selling here is totally unjustifiable.... and illegal
i beleive someone made a mistake.... and it wasn't Rufus...
birds of a feather?
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That's rich... a known theif calling someone else a thief. He may be right sometimes.... most crazy immoral people have a fifty/fifty shot at being right. However, Timmy's reputation precedes him. He is a con-artist and fraud BY PROFESSION. Therefore I don't bother to even read his posts.
"white devil speaks with forked tongue"
I have enough DD to do without wading thru extra piles of manure.
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Hey Glass... it seems that it's OK for all of these "legitimate" firms to make money thru fraud... but when they are caught they don't wanna pay the piper.
Hopefully, this time they will have to give the money they stole back... and then some. If they were smart they'd be buying right now. It just irks them to no end that this little guy in Georgia is trying to make them open their coffers and pay it back. Greed, money, ego all add up to a really big mistake in this case.
The AG Edwards FACT... speaks volumes. The big guys were caught stealing this time. The death spiral has been avoided and they are not happy.
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i just had a little free time to actually listen to that darkside of the looking glass deal that chartwalker has in his siggy...
for the people that have listened...are you as angry about the whole thing when you really think about the entire situation...in this case as well as other stocks you were perhaps in in the past?
i've mentioned it a couple of times that i'm looking to work as an examiner in this field...after hearing that...i have no doubts about wanting to get involved...
it's absolutly rediculous what is going on...i know this is the internet and you can take this FWIW and all...it really does make me sick to know this really happens...i'm just in awe...
alright all...have a great weekend...i'll lay off the pipe now...
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I have to say that one of the most ironic situations is that the "basher's" on IHUb have embraced Our street. I mean if the CEO of a company had the history that he does no one would believe him yet He has freely admitted his wrong doing and the DD proving his lack of creditability is easily accessible and has been posted yet they continue to believe whatever he posts and use it as a rallying point. It's amazing simply amazing.
It would tend to bolster Glassman's comments that the bashing is organized.
quote:Originally posted by CRab: i just had a little free time to actually listen to that darkside of the looking glass deal that chartwalker has in his siggy...
for the people that have listened...are you as angry about the whole thing when you really think about the entire situation...in this case as well as other stocks you were perhaps in in the past?
i've mentioned it a couple of times that i'm looking to work as an examiner in this field...after hearing that...i have no doubts about wanting to get involved...
it's absolutly rediculous what is going on...i know this is the internet and you can take this FWIW and all...it really does make me sick to know this really happens...i'm just in awe...
alright all...have a great weekend...i'll lay off the pipe now...
Crab, I remember after I saw that video I wanted to punch someone right in the head! If I knew someone would REALLY FIGHT to get things changed I'd contribute! I never had a siggy before, but I truly believe something NEEDS to be done, hence the hyper link at the bottom of my posts, My MISSION... That much I can do...
I'm Soooooo behind Rufus on this. Keep looking for a scam but I can't see it. -and I don't think ALL of us here are blind, and this next weeks "PR Parade" should be a site to behold!!!