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ththf
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I would see a bounce here. But be careful
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I think the news of GM bid is a kind of pump and dump.

Recently we heard a lot of news of "takeover"

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When market up HPQ and IBM go down.
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Today's volume is very very low
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we will have lot of junk stocks ER in the next 2 weeks.

Good luck.

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i will be shorting pretty soon. market has no legs. going up on very very light volume. waiting to see where the top is.
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[Smile]

Tons of bad ER afterhour.

[ May 09, 2005, 16:43: Message edited by: ththf ]

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another trap day
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LOL you guys have been beating the market since the q's were at 34, there now at 36....

short now though I'm looking for agood spot still, think we went up after the whitehouse was safe...

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we are in a bear market. nothing ever goes straight down. which i never claimed that is going to do that . follow the volume
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just like my above statement. will be shorting pretty soon
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i will play it both ways.
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one thing for sure that i agree about that i am busting on . that i am beating on the housing market even though hot. i guarantee it won't last a year. if it does i will stop posting. foreclosures are on a big uptick. just the facts. plus this price increase is not just natural in such a short time. investors just flipping.
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30% percent of our house engineering is spec/investor related which is super high.
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quote:
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i will play it both ways.

I play most on Bear side.
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i am mostly bear also. but sometimes you have to close up your short position while the market runs up for while. then reopen your position again
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not to brag. lets just say that i made a tons of money shorting the last couple of months.
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Tommorow we have retail number and initial claim data in the morning.

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MM drive up UTX to push index.
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actually you want to hear something funny. over here in florida. there is a subdivision called bella collina. and all the lots were sold to mostly investors out of state. people paid a million and half for a lake lot. lake apopka is like the most polluted lake in the nation. fish are turned up dead and the water looks like low fat milk. you can even swim or boat in it. just dumb investors coming from up north.
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sorry, it should have said "you can't even swim or boat in it"
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the lots sold out in a few hours. everybody just outbidded each other and pushed the price up very high
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it had even made news in the orlando sentinel newspaper. just go to their website and register. search for the old news. it was like 2 to 3 weeks ago.
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really? That's interesting and funny.

Afterhour,Napstor lose 24 million in 3 months! oh my god, $8 million each month. who paid those idiots to manage this garbage?

Their website is just like a garbage. But someone still bid it above 4.0?!

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while investors are buying everything up. i took advantage of it and sold the 4 properties that i had owned for the last few years. sold the 3 residental properties for almost 4 times wait i had paid and the 1 commercial property for almost 10 times what i paid. i think we are at the top, so i sold even though they might go a little higher in the short term.
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You are big winner. I don't have so much real estate as you.

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looks like the housing bust is already starting in london. just like the 80's
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next Friday. option expire day
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bull trap?
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OK, the places to START watching now? are the areas around the base closings....

this should provide very good buying opportunities in the right places, over the next year or two...

obviously you need to be thinking years, not months....

let us know how you do......

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Glassman, back around 1992 to 1996 was the last
time military bases were closed. Here locally,
several were closed which resulted in a thirty
percent drop in real property value within the
immediate geographic region of the bases.

We bought a bunch around March Air Force Base.
It took three to four years to regain that lost
thirty percent, so we gained ten percent per
year on the average. As you know, real property
around here has been skyrocketing for several
years now. I estimate we are up a very decent
one-hundred-fifty percent plus a little, since
our 1996 buy. My guesstimation is an average
gain of fifteen percent per year in equity.

Yes, buying real estate around military base
closures can be profitable, but you have to
wait at least five years to realize big gains.

An important point is to _always_ buy in clean
and well kept middle class neighborhoods, always.

Look for foreclosure sells six to eight months
from now. Market percentage foreclosures will
increase but this takes a minimum of three months
to appear because foreclosures require time to
step through the needed legal filings. Usually
the bulk of foreclosures appear in month six
after a military base closing.

Purl Gurl

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i don't think i can wait that long....
i want the world, and i want it NOW [Big Grin]

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"I hear a very gentle sound
With your ear down to the ground
We want the world and we want it...
We want the world and we want it...
Now
Now?
Now!"

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wierd, Fresh Air is playing an interview with one of the first students at the Kerouac school of poetry right now, glad i didn't end up there..LOL he said Ginsberg was a real old bitty.. [Big Grin]


* Authors: Writer Sam Kashner on Life at the Jack Kerouac School

His new memoir is When I was Cool: My Life at the Jack Kerouac School. As a teenager, Kashner left his comfortable suburban life on Long Island and became the first student to attend the Jack Kerouac School of Disembodied Poetics in Boulder, Colo. Kashner's teachers were the great beat writers William Burroughs, Allan Ginsberg, Gregory Corso and Kerouac. Kashner is also the author of a novel, Sinatraland, as well as three non-fiction books. He is a regular contributor to Vanity Fair. This story was originally broadcast on March 15, 2004.



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