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ththf
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This is big.
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not a surprise though....
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i think it'll be good for the market...

i noticed last year that when the Fed started raising overnite rates? everybody (mistakenly) assumed this automatically means higher MORTGAGE interest rates and the money started leaving the market as people ran to buy housing..
the mortage rates haven't gone up much at all and home prices did....

now? everybody is just beginning to realise what happened...

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it hasn't bust yet, but will be declining significantly towards the end of this or first quarter of next year
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at least bad for

NVR DHI MDC PHM....

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Great, I want to buy a nice house.


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Better check today afterhour ER
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quote:
Originally posted by JoeMillion:
Great, I want to buy a nice house.


Joe

You will, if the inflation don't make $$$ cheap.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
i think it'll be good for the market...

i noticed last year that when the Fed started raising overnite rates? everybody (mistakenly) assumed this automatically means higher MORTGAGE interest rates and the money started leaving the market as people ran to buy housing..
the mortage rates haven't gone up much at all and home prices did....

now? everybody is just beginning to realise what happened...

your hiding today.
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In NYC housing is very expensive.

1 family house = $500000+
2 Family house = $650000+
3 Family house = $850000+

2 bedroom condo = $450000
2 bedroom coop = $300000

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cut and paste from cnn article

Some of the decline, however, may be attributable to builders turning a little more cautious. One concern among builders, Seiders said, is that speculators are buying in new housing developments, which drives demand in the short term but could show up as excess supply down the road. "If the investor community should get worried, we could have a wholesale tumbling."

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This is a bad news for me. I just start my mortgage 6 months ago.
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if you are already in? it's not bad for long term....
lock in your rates tho...

don't worry...

it's only bad for specualators....

people that were in a hurry to buy and not in yet? will now wait awhile...for a better deal...

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i agree with glassman. don't have adjustable, interest only, or arm loans. make sure you have fixed rate.
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interesting article on the housing market in CA:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/latimests/20050520/ts_latimes/aglutinthemarketforhomes

"There are 437,000 agents in California, enough to form the state's eighth-largest city. With only 680,000 home sales a year, competition for listings can be savage."

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I have to agree with Cramer on this one. It's not a housing bubble. It's a land shortage.

Check out.

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I am in the Wholesale realestate market and our business is on fire right now, but I am on the coast of FL too. Good thing is either way you can benefit from all this either way.
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Fl have noting to worry about except for the hurrcanes.

Location, Location and Location!

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There is no housing bubble to burst.

In Vietnam, our government fought a war of
attrition, most stupidly and with significant
sad results, still suffered today.

Iraq, verification of the stupidity of all.

A war of attrition is to reduce the number of
enemy combatants to a point of being ineffective.
Stupidly, our government never bothered to exam
the national birthrate in Vietnam. Replacement
troops were being born faster than our government
could kill them.

People are applying attrition as a base for this
forecast of a housing bubble burst. That will
never happen. Prices will level off, stay level
for six months, maybe a year, then begin that
gradual upward climb in price which never stops.

Demand always grows, supply always diminishes.

Our American birth rate, along with immigration,
both are such demand will always be greater than
supply of homes. New buyers are born by the very
minute. New renters cross the borders, by the
very minute.

A good example is over the past couple of decades,
we have never needed to run rental advertisements.
In most cases, we don't even need a "for rent"
sign out in front.

Last rental, people driving by looking for rentals
spied us working on our house. I kept track of
this one out of curiosity. Over five days, we had
fifty-three people walk up and ask if we would be
renting the house, and had eighteen realtors walk
up and ask if they could list the house for sale.

Previous house, we popped up a "for rent" sign
out front. We rented the house within two hours.

Spam mail. Within days of your name showing up
on county property tax rolls, snail mail starts
rushing in, "We buy houses for cash instantly."
Others graciously offer, "I just listed and sold
the house at 123 Main Street, only three blocks
from your home, for a handsome price! Let me
list your home so you can enjoy lots of money."

If we have a housing bubble burst, we will also
have another Great Depression.

That is not about to happen.

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"Blah blah blah home prices blah blah hit another
record. . . . Other than the numbers, this story
never seems to change. The median price of
single-family houses sold in the nine Bay Area
counties soared to a record $622,000 in April, up
nearly 20 percent from a year earlier.

Santa Clara County prices also hit a new peak of
$681,500. That's up almost 19 percent from the
median price in April 2004, according to DataQuick
Information Systems."

Source: Jon Ann Steinmetz, mercury news

"Rates on 30-year and 15-year mortgages this week
dropped to their lowest levels since late February,
offering a bit of good news for people wanting to
buy a home."

Source: Herald Net, May 22, 2005

"EAGLE COUNTY - April's sales of entry-level
housing - priced $500,000 to $1.5 million - drove
real estate sales to a one-month record. A total of
375 transactions totaling $226 million were
tracked by Land Title for the month."

Source: Vail Daily, May 21, 2005

"Existing home sales jumped more than expected last
month, while the median price soared 11.4% from
March 2004 — the biggest year-over-year leap since
1980, a trade group said Monday in a report that
belied predictions of a slowing market."

Source: Sue Kirchhoff, USA TODAY

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Home Builder Stocks Slide on Comments

Home building stocks moved mostly lower Friday
after Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan
said the booming U.S. housing sector is not headed
toward a bubble nationally, but he does see it in
some areas of the country.

"The American housing market is an incredibly
heterogeneous market," the Fed chief said in a
speech to the Economic Club of New York. "We don't
perceive that there is a national bubble, but it's
hard not to see that ... there are a lot of local
bubbles."

Greenspan said he saw "very significant
acceleration" in the turnover of U.S. homes, due
in part to purchases of second homes. He also
believes that people are reaching to pay high
prices for homes.

"This is clearly beginning to stretch the general
pressures in the marketplace, which leads me to
conclude that this big price surge is going to
soon simmer down," he said....

Source: Associated Press 05.20.2005, 04:54 PM

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somebody needs to look at where this cheap mortgage money is coming from....

is it China? they are THE cash-rich nation right now...

think about the long-term implications of China holding all of our paper.....

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