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glassman
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guilty or not?

i vote NOT--LOL
only 5 minutes to go


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WRONG!
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Looks like guilty of every charge. That's what they are saying on CNBC anyway.
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I told you i am only right half the time and that is if i get a yes or no question--LOL-
i like smart women--i was voting with my heart--LOL
maybe i should make her a file cake--LOL

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30 to 37 months?
wow she shoulda raped somebody that notas bad----

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Yep, and all the charges carry serious jail time. If you add up all four counts she can go away for 10 to 20 years. In the current atmosphere where they have to to give the appearnace of being tough on white collar crime and anything attached to stock fraud, it could be a hefty sentence. What I don't understand why she just didn't say her broker told her sell the crap, brokers tell clients that all the time, no crime in that. Makes no difference if he told her why she should sell, just that he did. She tried to cover something up she didn't have to. Then she was too proud and pigheaded to make a plea agreement. She should go to jail for being stupid.
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I am for equal rights--if she did it she gets her due---but my understanding is that this whole case hung on the use of TWO different pens--I have 5 on my desk--red-green 2 blues 2 blacks--i wonder if this would have gone this far if she were a man?


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we do NEED to see evidence that the markets are going to be more fair --but WHY Martha?

there are many more really bad ones out there.

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I agree with Will.

Martha's biggest crime is stupidity.

She could have escape completely, if she
had played her cards right and kept her
big mouth shut.

Martha is publicity ploy for the feds.
She is being used to convinced gullible
masses the feds are protecting us.

Reassuring to know the feds, the SEC
and Wall Street view all of us as
blithering idiots.

What the hey, Martha will be a great
and talented worker in a prison laundry,
maybe even in a prison kitchen.

"Bubba, would you like French cuisine?"

"Do you like your orange jumpsuit with
starch or without, Bubba?"

Purl Gurl


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cupcake of the month will be skeleton keys--LOL

the gardens will be brighter tooooo


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It is a shame they selected her to make an example of. There are least three other REAL fraudulent cases most people can name off the top of their head, just by listening to network news since ENRON. It was her celebritiy and her nasty way with people that done her in. It makes no difference if you have a stem on your apple or not, it isn't male / female, it's about the appearance of the Feds doing there job. Meanwhile the real criminals go free.

PS And hotdamn all green in my portfolio today! Another week of that and I'll be even. LOL

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I think it was SNL or maybe even Mad TV that did a spoof of her show from a prison cell. It was hilarious!!

Lurch


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More proof that nice girls don't get the corner office---but mean girls get the barred office--HMMMMMMMM
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Not so bad. I enjoyed a nice vacation
at the Gray Bar Hotel, unlike those
little people.

Leona Helmsly



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MSO down $2.81 KMRT down $0.83

OOPS! MSO 10.63 -3.40

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yes she will make the best of it---but as a professional PG--I assume you know what i a mean when i say that the basic communication differences between men and women cause serious confusion in the workplace-

DIANA said it well-
DO NOT CONFUSE MY KINDNESS FOR WEAKNESS

many time the assumption that a polite person is weak can be a FATAL error---

in men the MOST dangerous ones that i have known were soft-spoken--
but in a woman--it is a requirement to put your foot down hard to be taken seriously--rightPG?


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MSO might be a good buy soon. Have to watch it. June 17, is when they get sentenced, but the appeals will take for ever. Martha is a billionare or was. Purl maybe you can pick a bottom, $6.00 ???
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glass:

People are people, male or female. People that are generous, good, and kind came in both flavors, as do nasty people. Why amke it a male / female issue, It's about right and wrong.


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Lying to fed agents 5-10 yrs

All other charges will run concurrent with the first five.

Therefore my bet is she will do five yrs.

Sentencing for this is strict and leaves the judge very little leeway.


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I like what i am hearing from the US attorney David Kelly---
I am not TRYING to make it a male/female issue--it-is BECAUSE there are VERY few women in Martha's LEVEL of the game------

I have a 15 yr old daughter that "has the right stuff"--how do i help her walk this line--I am asking for men's and womens opinions.

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I'm a bit off on my sentencing! but , not much as they are guessing now. Although the so called specialists are always wrong.

G-man: no clue but good luck with a 15yr old daughter. I teach middle school


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glass:

I have three daughters, 28, 24, and 20. In regards to how to raise them properly, pray to God they have a good mother. LOL


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Believe me I chose her welll------


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ello, i hope u guys don mind this... I'm 15, n doin a stock market challenge at school annndddd i get to buy stocks after hours but they arn't real stocks but they flow with the real stocks. I've been reading this alot and thought, HEY why not say hi?

And g-man if ur daughters fine and not a snob you got a good daughter... If shes not that i have no comment...

Neways i need help, if u guys ever see a good stock that is gonna rise and is a good stock to buy lemme no??

If you guys don mind ofcourse. If you do it woun matter much.

Jus a Bystander...


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I find it interesting. Martha and her buddy in crime were convicted of 4 counts each. I hope both get whats coming to them for cheating the investors. If one gets 5 yrs then so should the other. If one gets probation so should the other. Both the same.
Martha did not have a problem seeing her investors lose money. I hope both get a min of 5yrs. Be out in 2 and a half at most. Its time these rich cats pay the price as do the little people. I do not feel sorry for either one of them. They dang sure would not feel sorry for you.

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As far as Martha goes, she won't see a day of jail time, she may be charged but won't see her first jailhouse breakfast...

Glass, If you want your daughter to turn out right I suggest you get her involved in sports, business and health...good luck..

Help her start her own company, whatever that may be...

And I agree with whoever said that males and females are the same, they are, some are bad, some are good, no big mystery...

Oh ya, and keep your daughter away from drugs, alcohal, and boys, good luck...lol

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Martha got what she deserved. Her little act of “I am Miss Perfect” and you should be like me is only a marketing tool to sell her products and make a lot of money on just her name and image. In reality she is known to be a ruthless B*T*H. She hobnobs with others of the same who laugh and joke about how much money they can accumulate at others expense. She was on the Board of the N.Y.S.E. If anyone should play by the rules they should, but she is MARTHA STEWART. Don’t screw with me. This is a victory for all of the little people who follow the rules. Can anyone tell me if she ever actually has done something constructive. Anyway I hope this is just the beginning of nailing all the crooks that made a lot of money by not playing on the same field as we have to?
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She made a nice cake once...lol

I hope the stock goes to .0001 , I just might buy....lol


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What did she make on her "dasterly deed"?? a few thousand bucks? How much does a MM make by being crooked? Not sure i call it justice.. JMHO of course.. Ken
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In reality, Martha lost in a couple ways just on stocks (definat jail time also).
She sold because of non FDA approval
which was then approved as she was on trial. Stock she supposedly cheated on then skyrocketed. LOL if you put that in a movie no one would believe it.

Then of course she owns a ton of her own stock and she's not looking very trustworthy, her stock, which once traded well, drops and with the drop she's out around 35 mill (newsman said) not my math.

WATCH THE BOUNCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT STOCK DROPPED MIGHTY QUICK AND MAY NOT BE DONE. ONCE AT 40. NOW AT 10.

IF YOU GOT THE JAM WATCH IT. IT WILL BOUNCE HOW HIGH WE CAN ONLY MEASURE AFTER


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The Judge on FOX said that Martha would have to serve at least 16 months of jail time for what she did. No way she can get around it. I sure hope he is right. I hope for at least 5 years. A friend of mine at work said that this is a Federal case and that if she goes for 5 years she will have to serve the whole 5. No parole in Fed cases. I do not know if this is correct or not.
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The best she can expect is to serve 85% of her sentence. The bounce? Not sure if it's finished tumbling yet. People have the weekend to think things over. I want to see if the food channel keeps Martha's show on. This little indiscretion might scare off advertisers. Does KMart have some type of morals clause in their agreement with Martha? I'm not sure the other shoe dropped yet. If anything I would buy puts, but they will be at a premium Monday. For now I will just watch.

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