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IVAN, just discussed minutes back is being
shorted like crazy.

Down to 2.86 to 2.87 per. Lowest recent
price is 2.82 per before Christmas.

Haven't time to profile, +21% revenue,
minus 45% losses, red ink. Oil and gas.

This is a shorting play only, high risk.

IVAN should rebound to 3.00 to 3.05 in
no time at all.

Fast decision, high risks, you could
lose a lot of money fast if shorted
even lower.

Be VERY careful - high risk takers only.


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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
IVAN, just discussed minutes back is being
shorted like crazy.

Down to 2.86 to 2.87 per. Lowest recent
price is 2.82 per before Christmas.

Haven't time to profile, +21% revenue,
minus 45% losses, red ink. Oil and gas.

This is a shorting play only, high risk.

IVAN should rebound to 3.00 to 3.05 in
no time at all.

Fast decision, high risks, you could
lose a lot of money fast if shorted
even lower.

Be VERY careful - high risk takers only.


Purl Gurl


IMHO--WILL PULL BACK TO 2.50 MARK. DANGER WILL ROBINSON. I BELIEVE IT WILL RETRACE TO LOW POINT OF DECEMBER 8TH, 2003 OF 2.52.
JMHO.

*DJ Jefferies Cuts Ivanhoe To Underperform From Buy >IVAN

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(END) Dow Jones Newswires

01-22-04 0917ET- - 09 17 AM EST 01-22-04

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Jumped in at 2.87 per.

Now 2.92 at 12:35 eastern.

2.90 .. 2.91 .. 2.92 .. 2.90 ..

Extreme risks, be very careful.

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Yes, extreme in and out, intra-day most likely.

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Yes, FALLING now. Thank you Diana!

Quickest nickel I've made ever!

Going with Diana on this. Probably
should not buy. There is more than
just shorting going on.

Again, disregard, do NOT buy.

Diana, you are a darling!


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I put it on my streamer just to watch.....good luck Purl!


quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Jumped in at 2.87 per.

Now 2.92 at 12:35 eastern.

2.90 .. 2.91 .. 2.92 .. 2.90 ..

Extreme risks, be very careful.

Purl



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Oh heck, Diana, I have nothing but confidence
in your opinions. I jumped out at 2.92 as
soon as I read your update.

Maybe I could have made more, but I am
not willing to take the risk.

Sure glad you jumped in! This news does
not show on E*trade. Now it is at 2.94
per share. Wouldn't ya know it!

Not complaining. I made a few hundred
plus earned two credits towards my
live feed.

Too big of a risk.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Yes, FALLING now. Thank you Diana!

Quickest nickel I've made ever!

Going with Diana on this. Probably
should not buy. There is more than
just shorting going on.

Again, disregard, do NOT buy.

Diana, you are a darling!


Purl Gurl


PURL,

I HAVE OWNED AND TRADED THIS STOCK SINCE APRIL LAST YEAR AT .40. RODE IT UP AND ACCUMULATED FREE SHARE POSITION ALONG WITH POCKETING LOTS OF CASH.. FEEL LIKE THIS STOCK COULD BE MY 1ST BORN. I COMPLETELY SOLD OUT AT THE 7.00 LEVEL AND BOUGHT BACK AT 2.60 IN DECEMBER. WITH THE DOWNGRADE I SOLD TOTAL POSITION AGAIN AT THE 3.60 LEVEL. I DO THINK THIS STOCK WILL RESUME TO THE 7.00 LEVEL IN TIME. I WILL AGAIN REBUY WITH UPGRADE OR BOTTOM WHICH I SEE AT THE 2.50 TO 2.70 RANGE. WHEN YOU DO HAVE TIME TO CHECK THE STOCK OUT I THINK YOU WILL AGREE. THE ISSUE OF THE STOCK DROPPING DRAMATICALLY WITH 30% STOCK PROFITS FOR OPERATING CASH WAS AN STOCKHOLDER OVER REACTION IMHO.

PRICE IS 2.94 NOW. I BASED MY OPINION ON THE INTRA DAY TRADING POSSIBILITY ON THE DOW BEING DOWN 60 POINTS AND RECENT DOWNGRADE.

JMHO

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For all readers. You can well see working
together, with honesty, can help all of
us earn money, and can help all of us
avoid losing money.

The day isn't over, nor has tomorrow come,
but I have faith in Diana and I am very
sure she just saved me from losing money,
and saved you from following my lead,
into loss of money.

I know I made the right decision based on
Diana's skills and am indebted to her.
Doesn't matter if IVAN bounces back at
all. I will follow Diana's lead without
hesitation, knowing she will be right
almost all the time. I place my percentage
bets on her, as you should.


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Found you--been dealing with some snow here--
I wanted to say last night but decided to hold my typing finger in check-- When the post about them laughing about visual images of you pounding away at the keyboard Diana--I had visual images of them as a Frat house in the wee hours of sunday morning i.e. John Bellushi crushing beer cans on forehead. LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Found you--been dealing with some snow here--
I wanted to say last night but decided to hold my typing finger in check-- When the post about them laughing about visual images of you pounding away at the keyboard Diana--I had visual images of them as a Frat house in the wee hours of sunday morning i.e. John Bellushi crushing beer cans on forehead. LOL


G--G--G-MAN,

YOU MAKE ME LAUGH--WOW..THAT'S FUNNY. I AM STILL LAUGHING. I AM HIDING OUT UP HERE WHILE THE DUST SETTLES DOWN BELOW...LAYING LOW AND LURKING. LOL

ACTUALLY GOT A GOOD LAUGH OVER THE VISUAL OF ME TYPING AND MUTTERING ALSO!! AS UNCLE MILTY SAYS "CLICK-CLACK" LOL

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I don't think you need to hide-- Old Mullet is big fish-- he saw what we were trying to say and the school is calm now. So how does skunk taste?LOL
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
I don't think you need to hide-- Old Mullet is big fish-- he saw what we were trying to say and the school is calm now. So how does skunk taste?LOL

I TOOK A GOOD SIZE BITE--CHEWED FOR A WHILE AND SPIT IS OUT BEFORE I GOT A REAL GOOD TASTE--TRUST ME--IF I REALLY LET LOOSE WE WOULD BE HAVING A GOOD OL' DOWN HOME GOAT ROAST. LOL KINDA LIKE THAT OL MUTT OF YOURS. EVERY NOW AND AND THEN I "JUST GOTTA HAVE A LTTLE TASTE." ONLY WHEN THOSE DARN SKUNKS START PUTTING OFF THAT FOUL ODOR.

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PURL,

WATCH CLOSE FOR THE BOUNCE PLAY.

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I am watching!

Currently debating if 2.70 per would
be a good entry point.

It is possible IVAN could bounce up
to 2.90 to 2.95 per in a few weeks.


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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
I am watching!

Currently debating if 2.70 per would
be a good entry point.

It is possible IVAN could bounce up
to 2.90 to 2.95 per in a few weeks.

PURL,
I PICKED UP AT 2.66 TO PLAY THE BOUNCE--
SOLD AT 2.83 .17 X 10,000 = 1,700.00 LESS IN 14 MINUTES.

WAY TO JUMPY TO BUY AND KEEP. I WILL BUY AT ABOUT 2.50 REANGE TO KEEP. IT WILL THERE. SOON. IN THE MEAN TIME I WILL PLAY THE BOUNCE.

Purl Gurl


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YOU MUST PURCHASE USA TECHNOLOGIES (USTT)..THIS IS THE NEXT COMING OF THE TECHNOLOGY WORLD....USER FRIENDLY VENDOR/PAYMENT DEVICES...PREDICTED TO HIT $3 BY MARCH........


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I love these "bigs" as you call them, Diana.

IVAN is all over the place! Technical people
would scream and run. Fundamentalist would
simply pass out.

There is a lot of money to made on the "bigs"
if you are patient. I like bringing thirty
percent, fifty percent returns in only a
month or two. That is "loan shark" level
returns on money.

IVAN, yes, at 2.50 per would be good for
a one month or so hold.

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Tipster, I have been watching USTT for
over three months. You will find some
posts by me at Raging Bull quite a bit
of time back, expressing my opinions.

I will pass, but thanks for the tip.

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For most people on bulletin boards it seems like a month is marriage--LOL
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Well Glassman, have you not heard of divorce?

HEH!

IVAN is approaching 2.70 per share way too
fast. Looks like it will slide right on
by the price and keep falling.


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
For most people on bulletin boards it seems like a month is marriage--LOL

GUYS,

PRETTY GOOD DAY SO FAR--

IN AND OUT OF IBTZ FOR 600.00

IN AND OUT OF FCSE--400.00

IN AND OUT OF IVAN--1700.00

WHEN THE DUST SETTLES I WILL BUY IVAN AND SIRI FOR 30 TO 45 DAY SWING. I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I BUY.

FYI--I HAVE BEEN BUYING VITX SINCE IT WAS .75
COMPANY HAS GRIT. BOUGHT MAJORITY OF SHARES AT 1.05 TO 1.10.

GUYS--CHECK OUT SMTR--I STARTED BUYING AT .14. ON PURE SPECULATION. A REAL GAMBLE.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Well Glassman, have you not heard of divorce?

HEH!

IVAN is approaching 2.70 per share way too
fast. Looks like it will slide right on
by the price and keep falling.


Purl Gurl


IVAN WILL PROBABLY BOUNCE 3 TIMES TODAY. 2.65--2.85 LOOKING AT SECOND BOUNCE LOW HERE COMING UP AGAIN. 2ND AND 3RD BOUNCE WILL NOT BE AS LOW OR HIGH AS THE 1ST. JMHO

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Diana, beginning to look like IVAN will
slide right on down to your projected
2.50 per share!

What I will be looking for is a sudden
decrease in volume and stable prices,
for an entry price, along share amount
purchases averaging under 500 shares
per buy.

I really think this one is good for maybe
fifteen cents to twenty cents per share
profit, oh, over three to six weeks.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
[B]Diana, beginning to look like IVAN will
slide right on down to your projected
2.50 per share!

JUST MIGHT--REMEMBER THE STOCK WAS DOWNGRADED. THE BOTTOM IS GOING TO BE HARD TO DETECT BECAUSE DAY TRADERS ARE HAVING A HAY DAY.

WAS ABLE TO SELL 3/4 OF MY VITX AT 1.75 TO SECURE 2500 FREE SHARES.

WOW--JUST LOVE THIS GAME

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
[B]Well Glassman, have you not heard of divorce?

HEH!

Unfortunately yes. but my parents not mine thanks

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 28, 2004).]


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by glassman:
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
[B]Well Glassman, have you not heard of divorce?

G,

"WHAT DOES NOT KILL YOU WILL MAKE YOU STRONGER"

I THINK PEOPLE WITH WOUNDED WINGS ARE DRAWN TO ME AS I AM DRAWN TO THEM. EVEN ON THE INTERNET. LOL

TO MEND THOSE BROKEN WINGS THERE ARE TIMES WHEN WE HAVE TO LIMP AROUND AWHILE BEFORE WE CAN FLY AGAIN. SOME PEOPLE JUST LIMP LONGER THAN OTHERS. LOL

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Do my best to learn from mistakes---mine and others--if we pretend we are perfect we can't fix ourselves (edited January 28, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 28, 2004).]


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closed way down today too.

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 28, 2004).]


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IVAN is down i mean.

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 28, 2004).][/b][/QUOTE]

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited January 28, 2004).]


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Ya'll really think the fall will stop at 2.50 er so? I think the bubble has broke for it--thinking might zig-zag way down from that figure. It is entirely possible it will fall below a dollar--panic selling 1-29 will show for sure how fast the fall is going--Calendra feller probably going to bite it over this stock too. BUT I could be WRONG, and have been very recently, so as always do your own DD. I looked at this one from Diana's and Purl's postings and saw news that troubled me a lot--but i really think people WILL over react and sell this one to way below where it needs to be--and i am gonna watch this one for a bottom bounce--cuz it will make a good one there where ever that occurs.....steve
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When stocks like this crash, technicals
become useless. There is no way to know
just where IVAN will bottom out, Steve.

Earlier this week or last week, I discussed
this stock and indicated it is severely
inflated beyond reason. Some prior events
caused this and investor losses.

Those events are worth brief discussion for
those who are new to this game. I have been
tracking this stock for many months.

I may have the dates on this a bit mixed
up. Back around December 10, news came out
IVAN is being listed in the S&P index. For
reasons beyond my understanding, investors
decided, "This stock is worth a lot!"
based solely on being part of the index.
Being listed in that index has nothing to
do with value, performance, or anything.
IVAN is just part of the index for overall
industry performance, good or bad. This
meaningless news drove prices from 2.82
per up to 3.63 per in one day.

As fate would have it, another piece of
news came out the next day, can't remember
the nature of the news, like CBS Market
Watch or something, drove prices on up.
By Christmas time, prices were well over
4.00 per share.

Just prior to those events, over five
trading days, IVAN fell from 3.45 per
to 2.82 per. Then BOOM! Feeding frenzy.

IVAN only displayed a 21 percent increase
in revenue over 2003, based only on oil
price increases. They were and still are
a red ink company; losses.

Truth is, IVAN never would have reached
those types of prices if investors were
careful and prudent. Suppose they received
their just deserves, although I don't like
to see people lose money. They did not
research, they bought into worthless
"good" news, and bought into a typical
feeding frenzy, an event where investors
feed on each others hype and excitement.

Never buy on good news unless it is truly
good news, like a great 10Q or factual
increases in profit.

"This twenty-five cent stock will sell
for three dollars in one month! BUY!
BUY! BUY!"

Sure.

Here is a serious problem, Steve. IVAN is
now well below its before Christmas price,
probably about where it should be.

However, as you have commented, IVAN will
fall much lower because of panic. So the
serious problem is you have no way of
knowing where it will bottom out.

On one hand, you have inexperienced investors
running prices up beyond belief, and now you
have those same inexperienced investors
running prices down to who-knows-where.

Yesterday, IVAN was a day-trader's delight.
Diana cleared well over a grand, close to
two grand in a matter of minutes. I cleared
a little under five-hundred, then chickened
out! Scares me!

Today, tomorrow, future, IVAN is simply
a nightmare for anyone wanting to sell,
or anyone wanting to day-trade, nothing
more than a downward death spiral now.

Your projection of under one dollar per
share is very possible. This would not
be a surprise at all.

We could jump on it at under a buck a
share, but there are other problems.

All investors are afraid of this stock,
least those who qualify as real investors.
IVAN now has a bad history. Running prices
back up will be very difficult, although
there will be a brief initial surge in
price when people like us jump in.

After that, IVAN could become stagnant.

I believe there will be a chance to pull
fifteen to twenty cents per share out
of IVAN, maybe a little more. Problem
is, what will be a safe entry price?

In closing, for those new to the markets,
never, absolutely never buy on good news
unless it is truly good news. Never jump
on a bandwagon, such as Mad Cow, The Moon
and Nano Tech, unless you truly know what
you are doing and are willing to take the
extreme risks involved.

Think USGA. Seventy-five cent drop in price
today and will continue. Your stop loss
settings are pointless for that. Prices
will fall faster than you can sell.

I recall warning some about this USGA,
and now I feel guilty for not being more
vocal about that stock.

New to this game? Perform extensive research,
be very skeptical, treat all "things" as
outright lies. Do not be a sucker.


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Purl/Diana I just looked at ivan quote a little closer at 3 different sites. Now even the MM's seem scared with that kinda spread--oooohhhh.
but i would guess it would kinda stop any trades placed before hours for tommorrow. I haven't seen that kind of spread fer a while, at least since the shorting of wel started in earnest. Must be for "breathing" room for the MM's.........steve

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while, at least since the shorting of wel started in earnest. Must be for "breathing" room for the MM's.........steve[/B][/QUOTE]

MY BELOVED BOOTS AND COOTS.

ITS NOT FUNNY BUT I THINK I OWN MORE SHARES THAN THE DAILY AVERAGE VOLUME.

I TRY TO FORGET THE OLD BOOTS AND COOTS FIASCO. HEY--BOUT .30 MORE CENTS AND I WILL BE AT A BREAK EVEN. I HAVE SO MANY SHARES THE COMPANY WILL PROBABLY FOLD WHEN I SELL. LOL


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Funny how this game plays out.

IVAN is right back where it started because
of news this morning.

Picked up a "safe" moderate amount at 2.70
per share yesterday, did ok.

IVAN should continue falling, however.
Today's news is ok news warranting a
little bit of price rise, but should
not support current prices.

Purl Gurl


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