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I'll check out your brokerage... what is your company's website? ...

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EFX, i got a question, re:
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Issues in our demo environment are not a reflection of our live platform.
...from your site's "Demo Account" ad...

Does that mean that if I open a demo account, I'm trading with/against other demo traders? To be useful to me, I'd have to see how I'm doing against the "real market." make sense?

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SORRY HITMAN, BUT I COULD PUT THE 50K IN,BUT FOR NOW IM, STILL JUST LEARNING IT.Hitman
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It is possible to be up 30K on a demo account... But be carefull if you are using $100000 demo account 0r $50000 demo..... My thought is --- withdraw $98000 on your demo and work $2000+- and you may get a better real picture.... It Takes lots more skill to make profit with LESS money... Most people will not have $50000+ in a real account
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JUST TOOK $900.00 OFF THE USD/JPY [Big Grin]

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quote:
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JUST TOOK $900.00 OFF THE USD/JPY [Big Grin]

Real or Demo trading? ...

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Tex ~

We stat the disclaimer about Live vs. Demo mainly because we use our demo environment for testing of new order types, back end software adjustment and new rev test. This does cause the demo to become unstable, therefore not always a true reflection of how the live platform performs. As far as execution and quoting, everything should be the same, unless the demo is not working properly at certain moments.

Now I suggest to all traders Forex, stocks, futures etc, open up a live account with a broker to really test their systems. I've heard lots of stories of brokers showing one thing on demo, but offering something else completely on the live. With EFX you can open an account for as low as $400 to test the system.

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quote:
Does that mean that if I open a demo account, I'm trading with/against other demo traders? To be useful to me, I'd have to see how I'm doing against the "real market." make sense?
How could demo orders interact with a live marketplace? You can get real bank quotes, but obviously a real order can't hit a fake demo order. I use EFX, and it is the best platform out there by far. The disclaimer about the Demo thing is just to let you know that they do all of their platform upgrades in testing first in demo, so if there is a demo issue, it might not relate to the real platform.

By the way, for those that are news traders, check out www.fxticker.com for news and Calendar. Pretty cool new site.

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quote:
Originally posted by EFX_Justin LeBlang:
Tex ~

We stat the disclaimer about Live vs. Demo mainly because we use our demo environment for testing of new order types, back end software adjustment and new rev test. This does cause the demo to become unstable, therefore not always a true reflection of how the live platform performs. As far as execution and quoting, everything should be the same, unless the demo is not working properly at certain moments.

Now I suggest to all traders Forex, stocks, futures etc, open up a live account with a broker to really test their systems. I've heard lots of stories of brokers showing one thing on demo, but offering something else completely on the live. With EFX you can open an account for as low as $400 to test the system.

Am replying to yours and the following post...

Obviously, no one wants demo data mixed in with live data...the point I'm trying to make is I want my demo results to be judged by actual market conditions, not whether I did better or worse against other demo traders...

make sense, yet?

In other words, I wanna see how my plays stack up against what really happened.

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quote:
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Originally posted by EFX_Justin LeBlang:
Tex ~

We stat the disclaimer about Live vs. Demo mainly because we use our demo environment for testing of new order types, back end software adjustment and new rev test. This does cause the demo to become unstable, therefore not always a true reflection of how the live platform performs. As far as execution and quoting, everything should be the same, unless the demo is not working properly at certain moments.

Now I suggest to all traders Forex, stocks, futures etc, open up a live account with a broker to really test their systems. I've heard lots of stories of brokers showing one thing on demo, but offering something else completely on the live. With EFX you can open an account for as low as $400 to test the system.

Am replying to yours and the following post...

Obviously, no one wants demo data mixed in with live data...the point I'm trying to make is I want my demo results to be judged by actual market conditions, not whether I did better or worse against other demo traders...

make sense, yet?

In other words, I wanna see how my plays stack up against what really happened.

+1 ... Exactly. I don't care about how others do but whether I am doing good or not.

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If anyone's interested a good trader started a chat room and is usually present during the London session.

http://chat.paltalk.com/g2/group/1112272378/

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Anyone know of a solid real-time news source?

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For Forex? ... most if not all Forex Brokers already provide that... open a Demo account with one of them...

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Okay, a LOT of people I respect are obviously trading on the FOREX, my question is simple: Do you guys prefer this over traditional day-trading US securities, be it pennies or small cap?

I want to learn, but not if this is just a hobby.

Thank you, the Clogger of Jons

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For those who are interested in helping the Forex markets and the brokers, please take a moment to complete this survey.

http://www.createsurvey.com/c/53715-NQL6MA/

Thank you.

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quote:
Originally posted by jon clogger:
Okay, a LOT of people I respect are obviously trading on the FOREX, my question is simple: Do you guys prefer this over traditional day-trading US securities, be it pennies or small cap?

I want to learn, but not if this is just a hobby.

Thank you, the Clogger of Jons

It's not that it's a hobby per say. It is just that it's a different monster/territory that us stock traders are not used to so we are experimenting with it.

Like all financial markets it has it's pro's and con's. Here's some pro's:

1. You can go short with no restrictions as opposed to the stock market with it's "uptick" rule as well as high margin requirements.

2. You can open a account with $200 and still get margin to control a bigger position of currency.

3. You can put a trailing stop/loss in place before you even enter a currency position and at the same time you put a limit or market order. So that when you enter the position it automatically does the Stop loss at the same time without you having to be in front of your computer to enter the stop/loss order.

4. No commissions. The brokers get paid on the spread. The smaller the spread the smaller their fee.

5. Only like 7 major currencies to keep track of as opposed to 9,000 stocks in the stock market in U.S.

6. I'ts almost impossible to manipulate the currency market because it is so large and any one player could not do it.

7. You can open a demo account in real time to try it out with "play" money. Tell me a stock broker that does that?

Anyways that is just some of them. If you want to learn further go to this website and read their "School" section in it's entirety even if you think you know a particular topic: www.babypips.com

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Thank you Machiavelli, very insightful. I'll give the babypips a try.
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ [Big Grin]

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Doing good lately in FOREX IMake?

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Here's a question for the masses....when you were starting out or playing with more limited funds, did you primarily scalp and do it multiple times, or find a good entry and ride?

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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
Doing good lately in FOREX IMake?

VERY WELL, THANK YOU.

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quote:
Originally posted by SherriT:
Here's a question for the masses....when you were starting out or playing with more limited funds, did you primarily scalp and do it multiple times, or find a good entry and ride?

IN OUT IN OUT IN OUT, THATS JUST ME.

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quote:
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quote:
Originally posted by Machiavelli:
Doing good lately in FOREX IMake?

VERY WELL, THANK YOU.
did u papertrade/demo account trade before u started to trade or jumped in feet first?

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THREE DEMO ACCOUNTS FIRST.

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how long did you "demo" and which brokers did you open Demo accounts with? ... I only opened one because i wasn't impressed with the others I looked at... trying to find simple platforms with big charts because I use candlesticks, Moving averages etc... so i need to be able to see well without squinting and guessing approximiate prices etc...

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GFT has the best charts.
FXCM is decent.
Oanda has sub par charts
Forex.com is pretty good

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My thing is i need charts to be BIG. Some have charts so small especially with candles that you can't tell or estimate where a currency's price will fall or rise when you want to enter a position.

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GFT will be the one you want then.
I think they're down to a one week demo... but it'll give you enough time to see how much better their charts are.
Open an Oanda demo account... the charts aren't as good but the demo doesn't run out.

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One week? what kind of chit is that? lol I have heard of GFT and tried it once a long time ago but learning the platform was not easy at the time so i got frustrated and gave up at the time. The one I do use is CMSFX.com. I like their platform but I just don't like that the charts aren't big enough. Anyways check it out and let me know what you think of them. They have 400:1 leverage with $200 minimum to open a account and unlimited demo account use. 3 pip maximum spread for fees.

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Money Never Sleeps Pal.

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Yes i know but trying to find the perfect or near perfect broker for me for FOREX...

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GFT,Machiavelli

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If full screen isn't big enough then I'm not sure what is.
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Anyone here heard of Jack Crook (not the best name for a World Currency Options expert? I received an e-mail today from another service I subscribe to about his services. I don't have the dough to spend on this but wonder if it is something to consider in the future?

Here is part of the e-mail below...

Bob: The service is Jack Crooks' World Currency Options Alert, the world's first and only trading service specifically created to help you profit from the Philadelphia Stock Exchange's new World Currency Options.

For starters, you'll get Jack Crooks' World Currency Options Trading Manual.

In the manual, Jack shows you his #1 strategy for selecting the currency options that offer you the greatest profit potential with the least amount of risk. He shows exactly how the Philadelphia Exchange's World Currency Options work — and he shows you how he identifies the best ones to trade.

Martin: I'm a risk-averse person. So I want to add that I'm pleased to see Jack provides several risk barriers:

The first risk barrier is diversification — you're investing in the currencies of entire nations, not just a few stocks. And Jack recommends a variety of different currencies, different expiration dates and different strike prices.

The second risk barrier is the options themselves. Even in the worst-case scenario, your loss is limited to the modest amounts you pay for each of them.

And third is Jack — with close monitoring of each position, with strict limits.

And while we're on the subject of risk, I want to remind you of one more thing: One of the greatest risks of all, in my opinion, is being taken by the folks who do nothing to protect themselves from this dollar crisis.

Bob: I've always been intrigued by currencies, how dramatic the moves can be, how huge the leverage is. But I have always been hesitant because of the unlimited risk.

Martin: Now, with these World Currency Options, you can know exactly what the risk limit is, and I know it will never be exceeded.

Bob: And the real asset here, of course, is Jack. He's the best when it comes to currencies. He stays on top of the currencies 18 hours a day. He tells you exactly which Japanese yen options to buy right now, and which other currency options to buy for diversification and for more profits.

Martin: We know of no one better.

Bob: Martin, congratulations. Over the years, I've seen the huge profits that are made in the currency market. And I was always amazed that there was no viable way for the average investor to participate without taking huge risks. No one brought together what has got to be the most liquid, most wildly profitable market with the investor-friendly instruments like these new options. Now you have done it!

Editor's note: Normally, a one-year membership in World Currency Options Alert is $5,000.

But if you become a Charter Member today (Monday, September 24), you can join for one year for just $2,300, less than half the regular membership rate.

Or for an even better deal, join for two years. The cost is just $3,750, and you save $6,250!

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quote:
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Anyone here heard of Jack Crook (not the best name for a World Currency Options expert? I received an e-mail today from another service I subscribe to about his services. I don't have the dough to spend on this but wonder if it is something to consider in the future?

Here is part of the e-mail below...

Bob: The service is Jack Crooks' World Currency Options Alert, the world's first and only trading service specifically created to help you profit from the Philadelphia Stock Exchange's new World Currency Options.

For starters, you'll get Jack Crooks' World Currency Options Trading Manual.

In the manual, Jack shows you his #1 strategy for selecting the currency options that offer you the greatest profit potential with the least amount of risk. He shows exactly how the Philadelphia Exchange's World Currency Options work — and he shows you how he identifies the best ones to trade.

Martin: I'm a risk-averse person. So I want to add that I'm pleased to see Jack provides several risk barriers:

The first risk barrier is diversification — you're investing in the currencies of entire nations, not just a few stocks. And Jack recommends a variety of different currencies, different expiration dates and different strike prices.

The second risk barrier is the options themselves. Even in the worst-case scenario, your loss is limited to the modest amounts you pay for each of them.

And third is Jack — with close monitoring of each position, with strict limits.

And while we're on the subject of risk, I want to remind you of one more thing: One of the greatest risks of all, in my opinion, is being taken by the folks who do nothing to protect themselves from this dollar crisis.

Bob: I've always been intrigued by currencies, how dramatic the moves can be, how huge the leverage is. But I have always been hesitant because of the unlimited risk.

Martin: Now, with these World Currency Options, you can know exactly what the risk limit is, and I know it will never be exceeded.

Bob: And the real asset here, of course, is Jack. He's the best when it comes to currencies. He stays on top of the currencies 18 hours a day. He tells you exactly which Japanese yen options to buy right now, and which other currency options to buy for diversification and for more profits.

Martin: We know of no one better.

Bob: Martin, congratulations. Over the years, I've seen the huge profits that are made in the currency market. And I was always amazed that there was no viable way for the average investor to participate without taking huge risks. No one brought together what has got to be the most liquid, most wildly profitable market with the investor-friendly instruments like these new options. Now you have done it!

Editor's note: Normally, a one-year membership in World Currency Options Alert is $5,000.

But if you become a Charter Member today (Monday, September 24), you can join for one year for just $2,300, less than half the regular membership rate.

Or for an even better deal, join for two years. The cost is just $3,750, and you save $6,250!

NO!! TELL HIM TO BLOW!JMO

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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty don't know:
Anyone know of a solid real-time news source?

Here is a free resource site that will show you how the forex market reacted to economic news releases in the past:


http://www.forexnewspatterns.com

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