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if anyone else want to know about pre-forclosure let me know and ill try to type up a how to
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What is pre-forclosure? And how do you do it?
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Being poor is better. [Smile]

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its not better just easier because 99% of people are to lazy


ranger: i think alot of people would benefit from a how to on pre-forclosures, im one of them [Smile]

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the way to get rich is the way my great grand pa did when he got involved in a gold rush he was selling the picks and shovles.
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The way to get rich is invest in ctglf now.
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Write a book on how to get rich

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Winning the lottery.

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Better shot than this market. Where can I buy ticket.
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marry a rich lady

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get married.. put a big policy on your wife and kill her!!! muhahahah!

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Hey Ranger, I'd like to know more about pre-forclosure.. if you write it up, or have written it up.. please share [Smile]
-although I think you shared some pretty useful info already.

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Start your own penny stock company!!!!!!! LOL

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a little pre-foreclosure info:

Years ago I almost lost my home to foreclosure during my divorce. I learned first hand what foreclosure is like and what the options were. Now I offer free advise to people who are going through it. I dont give them any legal advise I just come over and sit down with them and I listen to their situation and I explain all the options they have.

One of the options I present is selling the equity they have in their home, (usually by the time I sit down with them they have received over 10 letters from other real estate investors offering money for their equity).

Here is an example of how it works. Your home is worth 100,000 if you sell it with a realtor, problem is it will cost you 10% in realtor fees and closing costs and there is no guarantee you can sell it before the foreclosure. You only owe 80,000 on the home but with late fees and legal charges the bank says you owe 82,000.
I offer you 90,000 for the home which gives you the 8,000 you would have gotten if you sold through a realtor. I get you to sign a contract saying you give permission for me to negotiate with the bank on your behalf.

The bank does not want to own your property. Banks lose money on 95% of foreclosures so they would deal a bit to get out of foreclosing. I offer the bank 79,000 cash and they write off the closing fees.

In the end I get the house for 87,000 total and I have 13,000 equity in it already. The old owners save their credit by avoiding the foreclosure and they get 8,000 to go and start somewhere fresh. The bank writes off the 3,000 loss and gets a tax credit for it.

In the last year I have talked to roughly 30 people in foreclosure and I have only purchased one of their homes. Most people think they can find a way out of it on their own or they just ignore it until they lose the home. Many have no equity to even deal with.

There are many so-called real estate investors out there who are combing the legal notices and sending letters to people in foreclosure. Some even go to your door the first day it appears in the paper trying to get you to sign a contract to sell. They pressure you and try to scare you with legal talk about how the bank will be taking your home soon and you need to act right away. Dont be one of these clowns.

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100000 shares of NCDP @ .01 =$1000. 100000 shares @ 1.00= $100000.
Who said pennies don't make dollors. IN and long. My pump for the day.

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lol
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CNR $10 in less than a year
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Get Rich quick? If there is such a thing. But the Phoenix Real Estate Market is HOT, HOT, HOT! (and so is the weather) Homes in Goodyear, a west-suburb of Phoenix, (and an east suburb of L.A. hahaha) have gone up 100% in the past year. Last year, I bought a 1,600 sq.ft. single family home for investment in Goodyear. Currently, I have this home on the market for 289,000. Bids came in yesterday-quick, 13 bids in all, day one -for full asking price the highest with a $20,000 escalation. Looks like the home will close foraround $300K
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right in phoenix goodyear is project as the highest growth rate in the area
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AMEN to that. Very hot market here. Homes are selling quick. It is impossible, literally, to purchase a new build in Goodyear. All of the land for new builds is a lottery and most builds are 1.5 to 2 years out. Purchase a new build now- it will be worth 200% more when you move in :-) that is if the market stays strong.
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phoenix a lot of our market depends on what the calif. market is doing and my last trip to santa barbara it was still hot as a pistol can't touch anything there for under a million and it goes quick. you can't loose in phoenix rigt now i live on cave creek rd and see new condo,s selling like hot cakes for $400,000. plus
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The problem with all your figures is that they are unrealalistic.
1.) Lets start with income , I'm 45 years old and have worked since i was 18 yet i have never made more than $15k a year and thats working two jobs most of the time. My employer dosnt have a 401K.
2.) Whats left to save after my expenses,
$15K - $8k Child support payments -taxs = $5,000 left to pay food rent and every thing else. So forget about saving any money.
3.) Then you mention real estate , but dont you need a credit rating to get a morgate. AT 45 years old i have never had a credit card and cant even get one let alone a car loan or moragte.
So when you tell people that making a million can be uptained please be more real in your figures , Experince in the real world shows that average people dont make lots and are hindered by the same corprations and banks as every body else.

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I've read the comments about trailer parks and would like more information on setting one up. It sounds like a much better proposition than houses. Blueranger, you seem to be the most knowledgeable on the subject, and to have firsthand experience. I'd appreciate if you could post some more information on setting up, requirements, maintainence and any problems associated with it. Anyone else who has any experience or comments, please post. Thanks in advance.
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hi all i was just reading on the idea of trailer parks.and i have one park and one small housing development
the park currently has 27 trailers on a 10 acre lot
the housing devlopment has ten ranch style homes each on a 1/4 acre lots and both are fully rented out
the cash flow from the trailer is about 3x higher then the housing devlopment
the housing devlopment after five years is now worth nearly 10x more then the trailer park per acre.
the park did provide good revs and cash flow while building the homes.i will now be selling off the trailers and building more three bedroom two bath ranch style homes and renting them out.

what i learned is in the long run the houses are the better deal
i went with trailers because of cash flow problems
bmax,

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quote:
Originally posted by GVMOORE:
100000 shares of NCDP @ .01 =$1000. 100000 shares @ 1.00= $100000.
Who said pennies don't make dollors. IN and long. My pump for the day.

lol you would be worth 300 bucks now

buy amep,....lol

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quote:
Originally posted by bmaxingout:
hi all i was just reading on the idea of trailer parks.and i have one park and one small housing development
the park currently has 27 trailers on a 10 acre lot
the housing devlopment has ten ranch style homes each on a 1/4 acre lots and both are fully rented out
the cash flow from the trailer is about 3x higher then the housing devlopment
the housing devlopment after five years is now worth nearly 10x more then the trailer park per acre.
the park did provide good revs and cash flow while building the homes.i will now be selling off the trailers and building more three bedroom two bath ranch style homes and renting them out.

what i learned is in the long run the houses are the better deal
i went with trailers because of cash flow problems
bmax,

I'm just getting into real estate. I agree probably the better deal, much safer anyway. I have a condo in Orlando that has a small positive cashflow(great appreciation though), and I just put a contract down on a townhouse in Richmond(where I live now). I'm in the real estate game for the long haul. It's fun.
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A friend of mine was dating a girl who had a rich grandmother. The girl would receive the grandmother's money when the grandmother died. My friend used to recite that same joke, "you can marry more money in ten minutes than you could make in a lifetime."

There was only one catch. The girl and the grandmother were Jewish and they wanted my friend to convert to the Jewish faith also. "Do I have to wear the bennie thing too?" Yes, they said.

He wasn't to swell on the idea. Now, he was a die hard Cubs baseball fan. So he replied, "can I just tear the bill off my Cubs hat?"

I don't know if they ever married. The girl had 300 pairs of shoes also.

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quote:
Originally posted by Skyman:
A friend of mine was dating a girl who had a rich grandmother. The girl would receive the grandmother's money when the grandmother died. My friend used to recite that same joke, "you can marry more money in ten minutes than you could make in a lifetime."

There was only one catch. The girl and the grandmother were Jewish and they wanted my friend to convert to the Jewish faith also. "Do I have to wear the bennie thing too?" Yes, they said.

He wasn't to swell on the idea. Now, he was a die hard Cubs baseball fan. So he replied, "can I just tear the bill off my Cubs hat?"

I don't know if they ever married. The girl had 300 pairs of shoes also.

I married a JAP...Jewish American Princess. Unfortunately not much in the line of inheritance came with her...but she's a mighty fine lookin woman.
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has anyone here actually become a millionaire from the stock market?? or how about realestate?? do we have any millionaires in here at all??

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sure, but they're "too good" to post--NOW.

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Quickest way to become a millionare. Have good credit. Buy numerous houses that are undervalued, finance for the full value of the house, pocket the rest, finance using minimum payment option or interest only, (you can make either one with this loan), rent them out, incur approximately 12-30 percent monthly cash flow from each property which should exist with an interest only payment and subtract approximately 10 percent for non-payment or non-rental annually.

Keep in mind that your property most likely will be increasing in value even though your principal will stay the same.

One question for anyone investing in real estate for the purpose of renting a property as well as homeowners. If you had 300 dollars or more every month would you put it in a safe deposit box for thirty years and bury it in the ground? Of course not, you would put that money to work for you and so it would increase. Well that is exactly what most of us are doing, (including myself with one property), when we pay off our principal on our property. That money that is paid toward principal is basically put in a hole in the ground until the property is sold. Think about it for a minute, I know it is contrary to the American way, but it really makes sense to not pay off your principal.

In effect what you are actually doing when you pay an only interest payment is putting your own money into your pocket instead of toward your principal so you can increase its value with other investments as opposed to paying off your principal of your loan and gaining nothing during the term of the loan.

It really does make sense once you think about it. I am in the process of pursuing this idea at this time.

This post is simply my opinon. I will receive no reimbursement from anyone. The contact that I will now mention is indeed paying for my fishing tournament season but in no way has encouraged me to make this post. It is simply my opinon.

For further info about a minimum payment, interest only, 15 year, or 30 year mortgage,(you have the option of making any one of these payments every month.) Contact Jeremy Louder at First Option Mortgage.

972-432-2900

Tell him that the guy with the boat sent ya please!!

The numbers should look somewhat like this. Buy 20 houses for 110,000. Assume you have done good and bought these properties that are valued at 130,000. You now finance these properties for 130,000 and you pocket approximately 12,000 on these properties with no money down after fees,(this is realistic by the way). That is 240,000 bucks, we are almost 1/4 of the way there already! Now we rent out these 20 properties for 1,300 bucks per month,(or better yet for 650 bi-weekly, gets an extra payment per year hehe, we wont figure using this method but with monthly method). Your approximate payment for these properties will be around 850 bucks per month and that DOES INCLUDE escrow for insurance and taxes in most locations around here. Now lets assume you want someone to manage these properties for you at 10%. Your monthly cash flow is around 320 bucks per month for each property(management fees already taken out at 10%.) 320 bucks X 20 is 6,400 per month cash flow. Now subtract 15 percent for non-payment/non-rental/repairs. The net profit of all properties is around 5,440/month. Now lets make that annually for 10 years, (keep in mind that this does not include increasing rent ever 2 years). The grand total for 10 years is around 752,800 plus the 240,000 you made from the purchase of the properties. The total amount is around 992,800. You say, "but were not at a million just yet". Well now you can sell the properties that have grown in value conservatively from 130,000 to 160,000 and you sell for 150,000, which after fees will should net somewhere around 12,500 per property X 20 which equals around 250,000. So in ten years we could make over 1.2 million and have someone manage the properties to keep the headache to a minimum!!!!!

But wait there's more (lol), these numbers do not even include investing this money to make you more money!!(we dont want to bury it in the ground for these 10 years) Lets say you make 10 percent on this money and take away 35 percent for capital gains you now make around 21,000 more the first year. So after the first year you have about 336,000 instead of 315,000, I wont go into what the amount would look like from here as it is getting late and I need to get to bed but I think you get my drift. Your money greatly grows every year from the first year to the 10th year.

And yes I do live in a dream world, and I know for a fact that dreams do come true and this can become a reality.

Once again this is my honest opinion and I have every intention of pursuing this example I have given.

Nite all

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quote:
Originally posted by macdrsirules:
Quickest way to become a millionare. Have good credit. Buy numerous houses that are undervalued, finance for the full value of the house, pocket the rest, finance using minimum payment option or interest only, (you can make either one with this loan), rent them out, incur approximately 12-30 percent monthly cash flow from each property which should exist with an interest only payment and subtract approximately 10 percent for non-payment or non-rental annually.

Keep in mind that your property most likely will be increasing in value even though your principal will stay the same.

One question for anyone investing in real estate for the purpose of renting a property as well as homeowners. If you had 300 dollars or more every month would you put it in a safe deposit box for thirty years and bury it in the ground? Of course not, you would put that money to work for you and so it would increase. Well that is exactly what most of us are doing, (including myself with one property), when we pay off our principal on our property. That money that is paid toward principal is basically put in a hole in the ground until the property is sold. Think about it for a minute, I know it is contrary to the American way, but it really makes sense to not pay off your principal.

In effect what you are actually doing when you pay an only interest payment is putting your own money into your pocket instead of toward your principal so you can increase its value with other investments as opposed to paying off your principal of your loan and gaining nothing during the term of the loan.

It really does make sense once you think about it. I am in the process of pursuing this idea at this time.

This post is simply my opinon. I will receive no reimbursement from anyone. The contact that I will now mention is indeed paying for my fishing tournament season but in no way has encouraged me to make this post. It is simply my opinon.

For further info about a minimum payment, interest only, 15 year, or 30 year mortgage,(you have the option of making any one of these payments every month.) Contact Jeremy Louder at First Option Mortgage.

972-432-2900

Tell him that the guy with the boat sent ya please!!

The numbers should look somewhat like this. Buy 20 houses for 110,000. Assume you have done good and bought these properties that are valued at 130,000. You now finance these properties for 130,000 and you pocket approximately 12,000 on these properties with no money down after fees,(this is realistic by the way). That is 240,000 bucks, we are almost 1/4 of the way there already! Now we rent out these 20 properties for 1,300 bucks per month,(or better yet for 650 bi-weekly, gets an extra payment per year hehe, we wont figure using this method but with monthly method). Your approximate payment for these properties will be around 850 bucks per month and that DOES INCLUDE escrow for insurance and taxes in most locations around here. Now lets assume you want someone to manage these properties for you at 10%. Your monthly cash flow is around 320 bucks per month for each property(management fees already taken out at 10%.) 320 bucks X 20 is 6,400 per month cash flow. Now subtract 15 percent for non-payment/non-rental/repairs. The net profit of all properties is around 5,440/month. Now lets make that annually for 10 years, (keep in mind that this does not include increasing rent ever 2 years). The grand total for 10 years is around 752,800 plus the 240,000 you made from the purchase of the properties. The total amount is around 992,800. You say, "but were not at a million just yet". Well now you can sell the properties that have grown in value conservatively from 130,000 to 160,000 and you sell for 150,000, which after fees will should net somewhere around 12,500 per property X 20 which equals around 250,000. So in ten years we could make over 1.2 million and have someone manage the properties to keep the headache to a minimum!!!!!

But wait there's more (lol), these numbers do not even include investing this money to make you more money!!(we dont want to bury it in the ground for these 10 years) Lets say you make 10 percent on this money and take away 35 percent for capital gains you now make around 21,000 more the first year. So after the first year you have about 336,000 instead of 315,000, I wont go into what the amount would look like from here as it is getting late and I need to get to bed but I think you get my drift. Your money greatly grows every year from the first year to the 10th year.

And yes I do live in a dream world, and I know for a fact that dreams do come true and this can become a reality.

Once again this is my honest opinion and I have every intention of pursuing this example I have given.

Nite all

Mac,

Great enthusiasm, I too am very excited about my real estate ventures...I think my wife's almost tired of hearing about it.

I see six(if not more) major problems in your description above. On paper it all looks great, but here's a reality check for any noobs who may be getting all excited over what they've just read.

1. For a bank(s) to finance someone for 20 homes in a short period of time the individual would already have to be very wealthy. An average Joe making 40grand a year isn't going to be able to walk into a bank get financing on that many properties.

2. Interested only mortages are good, for now. You buy a bunch of homes on an interest only loan and when that interest rates jumps, which it will eventually, you are screwed.

3. Please tell me where you can rent a $130,000 house $1,300 per month. My experience up and down the east cost of the U.S. is that a $130,000 house rents for about $850 average.

4. It's not easy to find homes to buy which the rents will actually cover expenses, unless you put a lot down. Positive cash flow is almost a pipe dream in this town. I've been looking in Richmond for a year and haven't found one yet.

5. Managing over 10-15+ properties would be almost a full time job in itself. To do this someone would have to quit their "career" job, and their "career" salary.

6. Since in my case the purchase-to-rental price sucks I will need to invest in other cities, which means I will have to pay someone to manage my properties for me...another 8-10% expense.

I too have run through all of the best case scenarios. In practice I'm finding the reality to be much different.

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In answer to your perceived flaws I will answer them in the same order you asked them.

1. Call the man and find out if you have to be wealthy or not. You do not have to be wealthy to finance that many homes. Don't believe me? THEN CALL

2. The interest on the loans is fixed, period, no arms, no having to refinance in 5 years nothing. Current interest rates are not too high.

3. Houses around this area rent for that much and that is no joke. Check it out if you dont believe me. DFW area.

4. It may very well be tougher in Richmond, but here it is not difficult at all. The numbers I provided in my post are not faulty nor inflated. Those numbers are very real. Positive cash flow is very realistic here and the amount of positive cash flow with the loan I described is very realistic and not a stretch in any manner.

5. If you read all of my post you would have noticed that I did not manage the properties the properties were managed for me and I took out 10% of the cash flow for this purpose.

6. As stated in number 5. I have already figured in 10% for someone else to manage the properties.

You need to call the man and find out some info.

I have already financed two properties through them and believe me, what I posted can be accomplished. Of course it is still a dream, but it is a dream that can be accomplished.

Contact Jeremy Louder at First Option Mortgage. Ask him about options plus mortgage.

972-432-2900

Tell him that the guy with the boat sent ya please!!


Good luck to ya and I am sure it is more difficult in your part of the country than here.

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you do at least need a job that pays very well right?? i couldn't get a loan based on the money i would make off of houses that were already rented out that i wanted to buy. they wanted my income to be much higher. i have excellent credit but my $36k after taxes salary wasn't good enough to get a loan above $200k. and even if they approved my loan it would be at a much higher interest rate than my home was. investment property loans apparently need higher interest rates. i guess banks don't get enough money from normal loans err.... anyway....i didn't call that number above yet. but i will. but loans around here aren't as wonderful as the ones you speak of. i mean you claim above you were approved for a 2.1million dollar loan. what kind of money do you have coming in from your job?? it's not that i doubt you. i just find it hard to believe, due to my personal experiences.

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ok i looked up the tx branch of first option mortgage. they only approved me for $131,500 and that's with a 10% down payment at 5%. i'd really like to believe this man gave you a great deal. i really would. but according to their website they wouldn't do the same for me. but i will still call the guy. i just wanted to give you this update. here's your guy's contact info: First Option Mortgage
222 West Las Colinas Blvd # 858 East Tower
Irving, TX 75039
Toll Free: 1-866-285-2900
Ph: 972-432-2900
Fax: 972-432-2901
email: loanofficer*firstoptiononline.com
License 46722 Texas Mortgage Broker

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