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Looks like the Donald won and both houses are in Republican hands. I hope that something can get done. I voted for Trump this time witch is a first for me. Does anybody have any comments.
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Other than:


You're still a dumbass?

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I think that we saw the media lie so much that people who voted for Trump just STFUP and voted.
Trump will moderate quite a bit. It always happens, but i think he'll give it his best which will help America move toward being great again.

I do have one serious concern. If Trump gives them a shot a impeaching him, they probably will. The GOP isn't real happy right now even though they ran the table.
Hillary would have been impeached and not removed. Trump could be removed if he really does try to drain the swamp.

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If the GOP does impeach him? The party will die. But it was dead already, and the people who helped killed it are in Congress-

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They will search endlessly for anything to impeach him for. Will they actually do it? Dunno.

Currently I'm more concerned they'll try to kill him or even start a war to avoid him taking office.

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Trump has one more step. In December the electors meet to see if they are all in agreement on how they will allocate the electro votes' As far as I know they have never voted against the election results but the fact is they can and they would in the right circumstances,

One more thing this takes place on the second Wendsday after the first Monday of December.

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Can't imagine they'd actually go against the election, but who knows. Pretty sure that's start a sh!t storm beyond their imagination.
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Originally posted by raybond:
Trump has one more step. In December the electors meet to see if they are all in agreement on how they will allocate the electro votes' As far as I know they have never voted against the election results but the fact is they can and they would in the right circumstances,

One more thing this takes place on the second Wendsday after the first Monday of December.

all hell would break loose. I think you'd see three countires come out if it. The Norhtern east coat the west coast and the southeast would be part of the midwest. Remember that the military is sworn to uphold the constitution, not the president or the parties. I am watching people i have known all my life go crazy over this on facebook. It's kinda pathetic how people who think they are open minded have suddenly become unable to accept change. I've always seen the politics in this country swing back and forth- Dem to GOP and back again, but the current batch of babies er i mean liberals think the rules need to be changed to fix the mess they made with their friggin' idiotic choice of a candidate...
I'm actually beginning to think Mississippi ain't such a bad place to be if this revolution they think they want to start happens. I won't have to work too hard to defend myself here..... I'm actually kinda curious what the new york nuts think they are going to eat since we produce all their friggin' food.... I know California can feed itself, but the whole Northeast will starve if they don't freeze first [Wink]

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The 2019 #Calexit Independence Referendum
In the Spring of 2019, Californians will go to the polls in a historic vote to decide by referendum if California should exit the Union, a #Calexit vote.
You will have this historic opportunity because the Yes California Independence Campaign will qualify a citizen’s initiative for the 2018 ballot that if passed would call for a special election for Californians to vote for or against the independence of California from the United States.
This is a very important question. It is the responsibility of this campaign to explain what a yes vote will mean for you, your family, your community, our state, our country, and our world. We have designed this website to answer many of these questions and look to you to ask more.
"As the sixth largest economy in the world, California is more economically powerful than France and has a population larger than Poland. Point by point, California compares and competes with countries, not just the 49 other states.”
In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children.
Although charity is part of our culture, when you consider that California’s infrastructure is falling apart, our public schools are ranked among the worst in the entire country, we have the highest number of homeless persons living without shelter and other basic necessities, poverty rates remain high, income inequality continues to expand, and we must often borrow money from the future to provide services for today, now is not the time for charity.
However, this independence referendum is about more than California subsidizing other states of this country. It is about the right to self-determination and the concept of voluntary association, both of which are supported by constitutional and international law.
It is about California taking its place in the world, standing as an equal among nations. We believe in two fundamental truths: (1) California exerts a positive influence on the rest of the world, and (2) California could do more good as an independent country than it is able to do as a just a U.S. state.
In 2016, the United Kingdom voted to leave the international community with their “Brexit” vote. Our “Calexit” referendum is about California joining the international community. You have a big decision to make.
Yes California is here to help.

 
THE CASE FOR INDEPENDENCE IN 9 SIMPLE POINTS
Being a U.S. state is no longer serving California’s best interests. On issues ranging from peace and security to natural resources and the environment, it has become increasingly true that California would be better off as an independent country. Here’s a summary of why we think so.
1. PEACE AND SECURITY
The U.S. Government spends more on its military than the next several countries combined. Not only is California forced to subsidize this massive military budget with our taxes, but Californians are sent off to fight in wars that often do more to perpetuate terrorism than to abate it. The only reason terrorists might want to attack us is because we are part of the United States and are guilty by association. Not being a part of that country will make California a less likely target of retaliation by its enemies.
2. ELECTIONS AND GOVERNMENT
California’s electoral votes haven’t affected a presidential election since 1876. On top of that, presidential election results are often known before our votes are even counted. So, why should we keep subjecting ourselves to presidents we play no role in electing, to 382 representatives and 98 senators we can’t vote for, and all the government officials and federal judges appointed by those very same people we don’t elect.
3. TRADE AND REGULATION
The U.S. Government maintains a burdensome trade system that hurts California’s economy by making trade more difficult and more expensive for California’s businesses. As long as California remains within this burdensome trade system, we will never be able to capitalize on the trade and investment opportunities that would be available to us as an independent country. On top of that, the United States is dragging California into the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement which conflicts with our values.
4. DEBT AND TAXES
Since 1987, California has been subsidizing the other states at a loss of tens and sometimes hundreds of billions of dollars in a single fiscal year. As a result, we are often forced to raise taxes and charge fees in California, and borrow money from the future to make up the difference. This is partly why California presently has some of the highest taxes in the country, and so much debt. Independence means that all of our taxes will be kept in California based on the priorities we set, and we will be able to do so while repaying our debts and phasing out the current state income tax.
5. IMMIGRATION
California is the most diverse state in the United States and that is something we are proud of. This diversity is a central part of our culture and an indispensable part of our economy. As a U.S. state, our immigration system was largely designed by the 49 other states thirty years ago. This immigration system has since neglected the needs of the California economy and has hurt too many California families. Independence means California will be able to decide what immigration policies make sense for our diverse and unique population, culture, and economy, and that we’ll be able to build an immigration system that is consistent with our values.
6. NATURAL RESOURCES
Certain minerals and other natural resources like coal, oil, and natural gas are being extracted from California at below market value rates by private corporations with the permission of the U.S. Government. While a small portion of the revenue is shared with us, our share has been withheld during times of sequestration. That means the U.S. Government is paying their debts with royalties collected from selling off California’s natural resources. Independence means we will gain control of the 46% of California that is currently owned by the U.S. Government and its agencies. We will therefore take control of our natural resources and be the sole beneficiary of royalties collected if and when they are extracted from our lands.
7. THE ENVIRONMENT
California is a global leader on environmental issues. However, as long as the other states continue debating whether or not climate change is real, they will continue holding up real efforts to reduce carbon emissions. The truth is this country accounts for less than five percent of the world’s population yet consumes one-third of the world’s paper, a quarter of the world’s oil, 27 percent of the aluminum, 23 percent of the coal, and 19 percent of the copper. Independence means California will be able to negotiate treaties to not only reduce the human impact on our climate but also to help build global resource sustainability.
8. HEALTH AND MEDICINE
The Affordable Care Act was enacted by the U.S. Government to lower the cost of health care and expand health insurance coverage to the uninsured, yet millions of Californians still lack access to quality health care because they can’t afford it. For many, access to hospitals and medicine is a life or death issue. Independence means we can fund the health care programs we want and ensure everyone has access to the medicines they need because our taxes will no longer be subsidizing other states. Finally, California can join the rest of the industrialized world in guaranteeing health care as a universal right for all of our people.
9. EDUCATION
California has some of the best universities but in various ways, our schools are among the worst in the country. Not only does this deprive our children of the education they deserve, but it also costs taxpayers billions in social services and law enforcement expenses linked to lacking opportunities resulting from poor education. Independence means we will be able to fully fund public education, rebuild and modernize public schools, and pay public school teachers the salaries they deserve. On top of that, independence means freedom from federal education policies and one-size-fits-all standards set by political appointees on the other side of the continent.

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Good, let them leave. They'll be invaded and overtaken by Mexico mere weeks after.
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I have no doubt that Calexit supporters are the same type of people that are more concerned with who hacked the emails than they are with the actual content of the emails. Russia didn't write the emails, Clintons scum bag posse did.

Democrats didn't lose OH, PA, MI and WI because of Russia, emails or private servers. They lost these states and the general election because liberal policy and regulation has been a complete failure to a very large portion of the voter base in these typically swing and blue states.

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Calexit people come from all different walks of life and political opinions. I myself find it very interesting and it will go nowhere' Its all a bunch of talk like people that say they are leaving the country over the election results. Grow up Trump is now our president.

I voted for Trump but for very different reasons than most of his supports did.

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Originally Posted By Relentless:

"Good, let them leave. They'll be invaded and overtaken by Mexico mere weeks after."
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There not going to invade us. By the time Brown's done there will be no businesses left in Calif. So why would they want to invade us? Invade where the money is?

HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAYS!

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