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May 15, 2013 | By ThinkProgress War Room

37th Time’s the Charm?

Tomorrow, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives will once again vote to repeal Obamacare. If this sounds familiar it is because it is the 37th time — yes, that’s 3-7 — that House Republicans have tried to repeal Obamacare.

This obsession has not come for free, either in terms of time nor money. One estimate pegs the cost to taxpayers of these 37 repeal attempts at some $55 MILLION. What could we do with that same $55 MILLION? Here’s four ideas:


1. Restore cuts from sequestration to Title X family planning programs and Title V maternal and child health services. The National Women’s Law Center calculates that a 5 percent cut to the budgets of each program will reduce them by $15 million and $32.5 million, respectively. Rather than voting to repeal a bill that expands women’s access to preventative services, the House could use the money to expand them.

2. Double the Department of Justice’s budget for sexual assault services, which has currently been authorized a $50 million budget. The program gives money to states so that they can support rape crisis centers and other nongovernmental organizations that provide direct intervention, core services, and other assistance to the victims of sexual assault. Current funding is inadequate, as some states receive less than $300,000 and many programs lack the resources to meet victims’ needs.

3. Grant a request for $50 million to train 5,000 new mental health professionals as part of a new initiative to expand mental health treatment and prevention services. This proposal came in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting to address gaps in the mental health system.

4. Help states implement paid leave policies. President Obama included a $50 million State Paid Leave Fund in his 2011 budget to provide start-up support for states that want to enact paid leave for workers. More than 40 percent of workers don’t have access to paid sick leave, heading to work when they or their family members experience an illness, but this funding could help give them a better option.

In terms of time, this calculation from the New York Times shows why this is one of the most unproductive Congresses in history:


That means that since 2011, Republicans have spent no less than 15 percent of their time on the House floor on repeal in some way.

The real cost, of course, comes in terms of the more than 100 MILLION Americans who would be harmed by the GOP’s obsession with taking away their health care benefits, including:
•129 MILLION Americans with pre-existing conditions who will once again be at the mercy of the insurance companies.
•105 MILLION Americans would see lifetime limits on what their insurance company has to cover, which Obamacare banned, put back in place.
•71 MILLION Americans, including 34 MILLION seniors, who are currently eligible for no-cost preventive care, including mammograms and birth control.
•18 MILLION middle-class Americans who will receive a tax credit averaging $4,000 a year starting next year.
•17 MILLION children with pre-existing conditions who today, as we speak, cannot be denied coverage.
•13 MILLION consumers who received more than $1 BILLION in rebates last year because of an Obamacare rule requiring insurers to spend 80 percent of premiums on actual medical care would no longer be eligible for such rebates because insurers would no longer be held to such a standard.
•6 MILLION young adults who are currently able to stay on their parents’ insurance — 3.1 MILLION of whom were previously uninsured.
•6 MILLION seniors who are receiving discounts — more than $6 BILLION worth so far — on their prescription drugs thanks to Obamacare.

In addition, repealing Obamacare would increase the deficit by more than $100 BILLION over the next ten years and eliminate new resources to fight fraud. These fraud fighting efforts have recouped $4.2 BILLION just this past fiscal year from those seeking to defraud seniors and taxpayers.

BOTTOM LINE: The GOP’s obsession with taking away health care benefits from more than 100 MILLION Americans is a waste of time, a waste of money, and harmful to the tens of millions of Americans already benefiting from Obamacare.




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Nice to know you think Obama care is so great given the fact that the IRS plays a major role in it. Cant believe you have that much trust for the government to be soooo responsible with your private medical information.

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like I said in another post cash you are not an american

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Im not an American, but you are? You are about as true of an American as they come arent you?

Ray you must have had something happen to you in life where you now live the REST of your life blaming everyone and everything else. Real sad.

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Quote for Ray:

Strange times are these in which we live when old and young are taught in falsehoods school. And the person that dares to tell the truth is called at once a lunatic and fool.

Plato (c.427 - 347 BC)

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Hopefully the 37th time will be the charm. Here's what's going on in the real world with Obamacare.

Just yesterday I got a call from our health insurance agent, the purpose was to explain a couple of options that we have when we come up for renewal on 1/1/14. As of right now if we stick with the same carrier (United Health Care) and make no changes to the plan our rates will increase by 67%. Typically our rates increase anywhere from 5 to 15% year to year.

Alternatively, some insurance companies are offering an early renewal option to January 2014 renewal groups and allowing them to renew in late 2013 before the rates skyrocket. If we choose that option our increase will "only" be 35 to 40%. The reason given for the huge increase is because were a fairly young and healthy group with very few medical claims. Groups that are deemed unhealthy with an abundance of claims are seeing rate increases of no more than 5%, some will see their rates go down. Makes sense doesn't it? Just another example of how this administration is completely ass-backwards. People that keep themselves healthy will be forced to pay more to support those that don't.

Well guess what? Neither of those are an option for me, we simply cannot absorb an increase like that so come 2014, unless something changes, we will no longer be offering health insurance to our employees. By dropping health insurance we'll realize a huge savings. My only option will be to take that savings and increase everyones wages by x percent, with the understanding that the money is to be used for purchasing individual policies. I have no way to monitor it, I can only hope they actually do it but it's pretty doubtful that the majority of them will.

Those that choose to buy a plan will have to shop for one on the government created "health insurance exchanges". These were supposed to be up and running during the first quarter of this year but as of today they don't exist. The current estimate now is October before anyone will be able to view the various plans and costs.

My situation isn't unique, I know of numerous other businesses that plan on doing exactly the same as me. It's an unmitigated disaster of a national health care plan. The effect of full implementation will be a huge increase in both health care costs and the number of uninsured people. Somehow I don't think that was the intent.

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that was the plan all along Upside. to force private insurance out of the ring and put it all on the Govt.

YOU ( as aprivate corporation) will make more money in the end of this, becuase you will not be responsible for healthcare anymore...

let's look underneath it all tho.. in the end? we have been buying off a menu all along without seeing the prices..

the govt will be forced to step in and set prices on teh Medical Industry to control the costs, just like they do in every other country in the Industrial World...

it is not the Govt's fualt that everybody has been paying too much for health care

i have a geenric prescritption filled every month that should only cost me 6$.

instead, because i have premium helath care? i pay 10$ on the co-pay and the insurance provider pays 60$ (so it says on the monthly paerwork)

reality check? if buy it without healthcare? it costs 6$ wierd huh?

i have run into this same issue on car insurance many times... windsheild? 175... insurance deductable? 250$... if i call the insurance company? i pay them 250 and get the windsheild replaced, if i call the windsheild company direct? 175$ and i pay them and get he windsheild replaced.. which is smarter?

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Yep, you're correct Glass. I'm doing exactly what the government wants me to do and it sucks. Don't get me wrong, the medical and insurance industries are broken but I don't like the fix that's being forced upon us.

I'm not tooting my own horn here but I fully intend to give out the bulk of the savings to the employees so they can hopefully purchase a plan similar to what they have now. How many businesses do you think will actually do that though? Not many is my guess and that's going to create a ton of uninsured people.....people who cannot afford to purchase their own plan.

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no, the businesses will take the profits. i don't think it is worng for them to do so... you have your own moral compass to follow and that is admirable too..


i don't know of good answers, i have VA benefits and when i have used them i had to be pretty persuasive and sometimes downright nasty to get what (i think) i need.

but the system we currently have was just imploding... nobody in their right mind orders offa menu with no prices on it... rich people who do that don't stay rich for long....

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I agree Glass, the system was imploding and I don't know of any good answers/fixes either. It bugs me though when I hear people say that anything is better than what we had, in this case that's just not true. When the cure worsens the disease it's not a better situation at all, it's worse, and that's the situation we're going to find ourselves in.

The goal of a national health care program is to insure that everyone has health care and to control the cost of that health care. Under Obamacare the number of uninsured is going to rise and the costs are going to skyrocket, the complete opposite of what was intended. I'd have much preferred throwing another layer of band-aids on the old system until a program was devised that actually addresses the problems we have.....not make them worse.

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in Japan the govt sets prices for health care.

in Germany? they have two sets of health care. private and public...

i think we need that.

walmart? all the fast food joints? they have been avoiding paying health care costs for so long that we taxpayers end up paying for them... they have had successful business plan... i'm no fan of walmart either, they just is what they is

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