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Brendan O'Brien

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10:44 p.m. CDT, July 19, 2011

GREEN BAY, Wis (Reuters) - A Democratic state lawmaker forced to defend his seat in a recall election on Tuesday as a result of Wisconsin's bitter battle over Republican curbs on collective bargaining declared victory in the vote.

With 99 percent of the vote counted, Dave Hansen appeared to have a commanding lead over Republican challenger David VanderLeest in the first of what will be nine special summer elections triggered by the union
Dave Hansen Unofficial results showed Hansen with 20,639 votes, nearly double the 10,601 garnered by VanderLeest

"The best is yet to come," Hansen told a raucous crowd of supporters, as around 200 began chanting "This is what democracy looks like."

"This seems bigger than me. The support we got seems bigger than me. It's about the people now. It's about we the people. It's about taking our state back. This is incredible," Hansen later told journalists.

The union measure was passed by the Republican-controlled legislature in March and severely restricted the union rights of most public workers and made them pay more for their healthcare and pensions.

The fractious debate in Wisconsin propelled the state to the front of a wider national political battle as Republicans who took control of many statehouses in 2010 mid-term elections moved aggressively to shrink government and made reining in public unions a top priority.

Hansen was one of 14 Democratic lawmakers who left Wisconsin for nearly three weeks this winter in an effort to thwart Republicans from passing the measure, which also forced teachers, correctional officers and other public employees to pay more for their healthcare and pensions.

VanderLeest had campaigned as a supporter of the union measure. Republican Governor Scott Walker, who was elected last fall as part of his party's national surge in the mid-term elections, signed the bill into law in March.

MORE RECALLS TO COME

Democrats saw the union legislation as an attack on workers and an effort to defund organized labor, one of the party's biggest financial supporters.

Only police and firefighters were exempted from the controversial measure, which triggered the biggest opposition demonstrations in the state since the Vietnam War.

Walker said the compensation and bargaining rights the public workers had enjoyed were unaffordable in an era of soaring state budget deficits, and defended the measure as necessary to help the state fix its finances.

In addition to Hansen, eight other state senators -- two Democrats who opposed the measure and six Republicans who supported it -- will defend their seats this summer, which could break the Republican hold on the state Senate.

"My main concern is that people stay fired up for the rest of the year," said Steve Robbins, an electrician from Green Bay and a supporter of Hansen. "This should be a wake-up call to Walker, but it won't be. That guy is on another planet."

The six Republicans will all face voters in recalls scheduled for August 9. The two remaining Democrats will defend their seats in recalls scheduled for August 16.

No matter what happens once the last Senate recall is held in mid-August, Republicans will continue to have a majority in the lower house, or assembly, as well as control of the governor's mansion. Democrats have vowed to recall Walker sometime next year.

In addition to the Hansen-VanderLeest race, two Republican primaries were held on Tuesday to pick the party challengers for recalls scheduled next month in two Democratic-controlled state Senate districts.

As a result of Tuesday's primaries, Republican Jonathan Steitz will face Democratic state Senator Bob Wirch in the August 16 recall vote, and Tea Party activist Kim Simac will face Democratic state Senator Jim Holperin.

(Additional reporting by Jeff Myers; Writing by James B. Kelleher; Editing by Jerry Norton and Cynthia Johnston)

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After Signing Law Disenfranchising ID-less Voters, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker Closes 10 DMV Offices

By Ian Millhiser on Jul 25, 2011 at 9:50 am


Earlier this year, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker became one of the many GOP governors to sign a law disenfranchising voters who do not have a photo ID — a law that disproportionately affects elderly voters, young voters, students, minorities and low-income voters. Having disenfranchised tens of thousands of Wisconsin voters, Walker is now making it harder for many of these voters to obtain the ID they need to regain their right to participate in the next election:


Gov. Scott Walker’s administration is working on finalizing a plan to close as many as 10 offices where people can obtain driver’s licenses in order to expand hours elsewhere and come into compliance with new requirements that voters show photo IDs at the polls.

One Democratic lawmaker said Friday it appeared the decisions were based on politics, with the department targeting offices for closure in Democratic areas and expanding hours for those in Republican districts. [...] Rep. Andy Jorgensen, D-Fort Atkinson, called on the state Department of Transportation to reconsider its plants to close the Fort Atkinson DMV center. The department plans to expand by four hours a week the hours of a center about 30 minutes away in Watertown. [...]

“What the heck is going on here?” Jorgensen said. “Is politics at play here?”

Of course, no one has been more aggressive in waging the GOP’s war on voting that Scott Walker. Walker stripped state workers of their right to organize to strengthen the GOP’s position in the next election, and he gutted the state’s public financing system, which allows candidates to run effective campaigns without pleading for money from big dollar donors, and used this money to pay for his voter ID scheme.

Lest there be any doubt, there is absolutely no legitimate purpose behind Walker’s voter ID law. Although Republicans justify these voter disenfranchising laws by claiming that they are necessary to combat voter fraud, a recent study by the Brennan Center for Justice found that only 44 one-millionths of one percent of votes are cast by people who commit voter fraud

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closing 10 DMV offices? this is getting out of control.

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Facing Backlash For Disenfranchising Voters, Gov. Walker Reverses Course On Plan To Close Several DMV Offices

By Marie Diamond posted from ThinkProgress Justice on Aug 6, 2011 at 11:00 am


In a sharp reversal, the state of Wisconsin announced yesterday it will expand Department of Motor Vehicle (DMV) services to accommodate the increased demand for photo identification in the wake of a controversial new Voter ID law. As ThinkProgress reported last week, after signing a Voter ID law earlier this year that disenfranchises tens of thousands of Wisconsin voters, Gov. Scott Walker (R) then called for closing as many as 16 DMV offices across the state, making it even more difficult for residents to obtain the ID they needed to regain their electoral voice.

Walker’s undemocratic plan prompted widespread criticism and has apparently compelled the administration to completely change its position:


Department of Transportation Secretary Mark Gottlieb said the expansion leaves all current offices open, increases the total number of offices across the state from 88 to 92 and drastically expands the hours of operation for some 40 counties.

The change, expected to cost about $6 million the first year and $4 million every year going forward, was called for by Gov. Scott Walker’s 2011-13 budget and was meant to address an increase in demand for photo IDs in the wake of the state’s new law requiring voters to show ID at the polls.[...]

The plan announced Thursday differed markedly from the one first unveiled last month, which called for closing as many as 16 offices while expanding office hours elsewhere. That proposal was immediately panned by some as unfairly targeting Democratic areas.

State Rep. Andy Jorgensen (D) is still angry that Walker even considered closing down DMV offices, including one in his district, and accused the governor’s administration of playing politics with necessary services.

Although the new plan infringes less on voters’ rights, it also confirms that these new, completely unnecessary Voter ID laws being signed by conservative governors across the country are costing states millions of dollars at a time they can least afford it.

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On Eve Of Recall, Walker Booed At Wisconsin State Fair

By Tanya Somanader on Aug 9, 2011 at 10:35 am


Today, Wisconsin voters will head to the polls for the special recall elections of six Republican state senators who supported Gov. Scott Walker’s (R) anti-union bill that stripped public workers of collective bargaining rights. While Walker can tread the recall backlash until January of 2012, Wisconsinites are forcing him to face the music now.

Last week, Wisconsin kicked off its 10-day state fair. It’s traditional for the governor to herald the fair’s opening day. But when Walker took the stage Thursday, he was met with a hail of boos and protests signs. “This is the one place where all across the state where people can actually come together,” he tried to shout over the crowd. “At least most people can.” As he walked off stage, the crowd chanted “Recall Walker.”
Walker seemed to “ignore the jeers,” but whenever he graced the stage, the crowd met him with boos and chanting. After his attempt to speak, Walker tried “some chocolate-covered cranberries on a stick — in private.”

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The voters have spoken.


Wisconsin GOP Holds Off Democrats in Recall Elections

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/wisconsin-gop-holds-off-democrats-in- recall-elections/#ixzz1Ubxy0UhQ


Wonder if they are going to go London on them. Those are not Tea Party types in London burning down their city, and you wont see the Tea Party doing that crap in America. Verizon union members who walked off the job are out cutting cables and sabotaging communications equipment causing outages for their customers. Thats the crap that bugs me, and they get a pass because they are so oppressed? Having their "rights" stripped too?

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Fast forward to 1:40,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_CjOSCyCU


The mob mentality is back.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpgCkeHw2Cc&feature=related

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
The voters have spoken.


Wisconsin GOP Holds Off Democrats in Recall Elections

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/10/wisconsin-gop-holds-off-democrats-in- recall-elections/#ixzz1Ubxy0UhQ


Wonder if they are going to go London on them. Those are not Tea Party types in London burning down their city, and you wont see the Tea Party doing that crap in America. Verizon union members who walked off the job are out cutting cables and sabotaging communications equipment causing outages for their customers. Thats the crap that bugs me, and they get a pass because they are so oppressed? Having their "rights" stripped too?

I used to work for Pepsi in Augusta, Georgia. We were not a union facility, but many Pepsi plants in the north were. I had the occaision to work in both Michigan and New Jersey as a fill in while there drivers were on strike.

It was pretty dangerous. Pepsi actually hired security companies to ride along with and follow our trucks.......it was warranted. The worst thing that happened to me was that I was followed along my route and yelled at when I was at an account. I did have two instances where strikers used there vehicles to try and cause me to wreck the truck.

Some drivers had it much worse.....I can recall two instances where drivers were "shot at".....I don't believe that the shooters intended to actually shoot anybody, rather just un-nerve. There were also instances of guys having the king Pins pulled on their trailers.....when the truck would take off the trailer would hit the ground......

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msnbc.com staff and news service reports

updated 8/10/2011 5:16:40 AM ET
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Democrats failed late Tuesday in their effort to gain control of the Wisconsin state senate as Republican incumbents won four of six recall elections.

The outcome was a big setback for Democrats, organized labor, and progressive groups who'd sought retribution against six GOP allies of Gov. Scott Walker, who earlier this year enacted a labor law overhaul that ended collective bargaining rights for many public sector workers.

The recall elections attracted millions of dollars of investment from both liberals and conservatives across the nation.

Most at risk as voting started Tuesday appeared to be three Republicans, Alberta Darling, Randy Hopper and Dan Kapanke, all of whom had barely won their races in 2008.

Kapanke and Hopper lost, but Darling won with 54 percent with most of the precincts counted, partly due to her outperforming her 2008 majority in heavily Republican Waukesha County.

In 2008, Darling had won her district by a mere 1,007 out of more than 99,000 votes cast. Her district went narrowly for Barack Obama in 2008.

Three other Republican lawmakers also survived the Democratic recall effort: Sen. Robert Cowles, Sen. Sheila Harsdorf and Sen. Luther Olsen.


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With the split in Wisconsin’s Senate at 19 Republicans and 14 Democrats as the day began, a turnover of three would have changed party control.

Next Tuesday there will be recall elections for two Democratic senators, one of whom barely won in 2008.

While there's a risk of extrapolating too much from the relatively small number of people who voted in Wisconsin Tuesday, the outcome may give an inkling about party motivation and organizing ability as strategists ponder the 2012 election in what could be a pivotal state.

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Justice

How Wisconsin Election Law Saved The GOP, And Why That Changes In 2012

By Ian Millhiser posted from ThinkProgress Justice on Aug 10, 2011 at 10:25 am


From the moment he took office, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) seized every opportunity to reshape his state’s law to improve the GOP’s chances on election day. Walker stripped state workers of their right to organize in order to weaken a traditionally progressive constituency. He gutted the state’s public financing system, which allows candidates to run effective campaigns without pleading for money from big dollar donors, and used this money to pay for a voter ID law that that disenfranchises numerous elderly voters, young voters, students, minorities and low-income voters.

Yet it was not these attempts to un-level the playing field that saved Walker’s Senate majority in last night’s recall elections — where Democrats took two of the three seats they needed to flip control of the state senate. Rather, it was a longstanding quirk in Wisconsin law which protects elected officials from recalls during the first year of their term in office:


(s) No petition for recall of an officer may be offered for filing prior to the expiration of one year after commencement of the term of office for which the officer is elected.

In 2008, Barack Obama won a landslide victory for Wisconsin’s electoral votes, and Democrats rode a wave that allowed them to capture many elected offices that are typically out of their reach. In 2010, by contrast, economic discontent fueled a backlash against the incumbent party, and Republicans rode their own wave into various elected positions.

For this reason, all of the Republican state senators who were eligible for recall in yesterday’s elections were Republicans who held on in 2008 despite the fact that they had to stand for election during a Democratic wave. Likewise, all of the Republicans who were elected in 2010 only because they were fortunate enough to run during a Republican wave were immune from recall. Come 2012, however, all of this changes.

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Wonder if they are going to go London on them. Those are not Tea Party types in London burning down their city, and you wont see the Tea Party doing that crap in America.

hmmmm.... after this recall election? i expect much more than what we are seeing in London over the next couple of years.

the Tparty is throwing gasoline in the fire Cash. don't kid yourself, they are not a grassroots movement, they are run by big business just as much as the other parties.

remember that the real Boston Tea Party was what we call rioting and looting today... patriots and history are defined by the winners...
whether the Tea ended up ruined in the harbor or in small boats to be carried off when it was dumped overboard makes absolutely no differnce...That Tea was not property of the King, it was private property owned by a company with shareholders... think about that forawhle.. it might even be good idea to look up the whole story, it's alot mmore complicated than "no taxes"

the sad truth is the terror attacks have worked, we have become *less* than we were in 2000 and we are not in any position to get better and we have failed ourselves.

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I doubt we're there, yet. That being said, if it blows here? Gonna be much worse than that in UK.

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I doubt we're there, yet. That being said, if it blows here? Gonna be much worse than that in UK.

i mispoke if you took it to mean that i beleive it's happening now, however, this recall election was a critical hinge point, or keystone.

it's all primed now Tex, there's only a few things that have to happen from where we are and i really do not wish to speak of them. It's all in the history books, it's happened over and over many times across many cultures. The few think they have more rights than the many and the many always prove them wrong, but the few never learn.

I don't like anybody telling me what to do. The Govt or the Corporations. I pay good money every month for a half a dozen corporate sevices like elctic gas phone cable etc, and every time i have a problem with any of them? They treat me like crap. Is this a personal thing? NO! It's a clear indication that they have forgotten what a *Customer* really is. They have become too willing to cast off a few customers because there are so many tothers that are too meek to remind them what a *Customer* really is. I deal witht his at eh doctors offices too, they do not even see US as customers anymore, we are simply an account number to them now, the gateway tot eh insurance co's money.

Remeber the only reason to incorporate is to sheild yourself from liabiltiy from YOUR OWN mistakes.

Ghandi set a new example for civil disobedince. MLK follwed his guide, but those were peope with real vision. I percieve what's going ontoday as a total lack of real vision, not vice versa, and it's 70% inevitable now IMO.

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Its getting ready to blow in America and as always America will be crazy and violent. I look at different signs and trends than most of you and I have some different info that I can read.

One of the things I follow nation wide is the over reaction of the nations police forces they are just getting to violent. What that means the are scared very bad sign. I think social unrest is coming it may take few years yet,but it is coming.

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History has shown time and time again that insurgents...a.k.a. revolutionaries, are created by the "out of touch" elitists stripping the middle class of everything that they have earned...

Sound familiar?

Just a matter of minutes now...

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Voters take to the polls as Wisconsin holds the nation's largest ever recall elections …

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RHINELANDER, Wis (Reuters) - Two Wisconsin Democratic state senators beat back Republican challengers on Tuesday in the last of a series of recall elections triggered by a fight over collective bargaining rights for public sector workers.

Both Democrats and Republicans were claiming victory on Tuesday in a series of nine summer recall votes in which Democrats unseated two incumbent Republicans but fell short of winning control of the state legislature.

Democrats had hoped to win a majority in the state senate following a fierce battle with Governor Scott Walker and his Republican allies earlier this year over public workers' union powers that involved mass protests, legislative maneuvering and court challenges.

"This was a political Rorschach test in that anyone can read anything into the result," said Mordecai Lee, a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee governmental affairs professor and former Democratic lawmaker. "Politically, it was a draw."

He expected the results would embolden Democrats to try to recall Walker, which would require a half a million signatures just to schedule an election. "By November, we'll know if they're pursuing it seriously or not."

The Democrats who successfully defended their seats on Tuesday, Robert Wirch and Jim Holperin, were among 14 Wisconsin state senators who left the state in an attempt to prevent passage of an anti-union measure earlier this year.

Holperin beat political novice and Tea Party activist Kim Simac by 54 percent to 46 percent, according to WisPolitics.com. Wirch beat Republican lawyer Jonathan Steitz by 58 percent to 42 percent.

Overall in the recall elections, a total of three Democrats and four Republican incumbents kept their seats, while two Republicans were unseated.

CONTROL OF SENATE

Republicans managed to keep control of the state senate -- 17 to 16. But state Democrats point out that one Republican state senator, Dale Schultz, voted against Walker's curbs on public sector unions. They argue that the balance of power actually shifted away from the conservatives.

"The state Senate as now constituted would NOT have approved Walker's extreme, divisive assault on the middle class and working people," Democratic Party of Wisconsin Chair Mike Tate said in a statement.

Brad Courtney, chair of the state's Republican Party, congratulated Simac and Steitz for mounting what he described as well-fought challenges.

"Wisconsin now emerges from this recall election season with a united Republican majority who has beaten off an attack from national unions and special interests and emerged steadfastly committed to carrying forward a bold job creation agenda," Courtney said in a statement.

Holperin told supporters in Rhinelander that he hoped the recall results would signal a change in Wisconsin politics.

"I do hope (these recalls) signal a new era of what I hope is a more moderate approach to public policy in the state, starting with the governor," he added.

Governor Walker fought for the union curbs, which restrict the bargaining rights of public workers and also make them pay more for health care and pensions, saying they were needed to help Wisconsin close a $3.6 billion budget deficit.

Democrats cried foul, saying public workers had already agreed to steep benefit cuts. They called the effort union-busting, designed to hobble organized labor -- a major source of Democratic Party financing -- ahead of the 2012 elections.

The fight thrust Wisconsin into the national spotlight, igniting massive pro-union protests and political fights that led to the recall efforts against six Republicans who backed the union curbs and three Democrats who opposed them.

Until this summer, there had been only 20 state-level recall elections in U.S. history, and the money poured into the recall campaigns has been something for the record books.

Mike Buelow, research director for the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign, estimates that candidates and outside groups spent as much as $37 million on the recalls.

With the recalls acting as somewhat of a rehearsal for 2012, experts say the spending could be a harbinger of record outlays next year.

(Writing by James Kelleher and Mary Wisniewski; Additional reporting by Jeff Mayers; Editing by Jerry Norton and Cynthia Johnston)
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Looks like they lost the war...

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For the moment the dems have lost they only picked up two seats and they needed three. But in the republicans recall fight to get rid of democrats they failed on all the seats. Another point was the dems came close to getting rid of 2 more republicans,they did not make it though.

The recall battle is not over as soon as walker and other republicans have served a year they can then be recalled and the process will start all over again.

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WI Gov. Scott Walker interviewed today, 1:06 PM CDT, by "long-time friend", Limbaugh fill-in Guest Host Mark Belling (Wisconsin based radio host):

Loose transcript based on my notes:

B:Governor, welcome. You took much abuse throughout the state and outside Wisconsin for your reform program. Do you now feel vindicated?

W: Mark, as a state we are doing well. We've gone from a $3.6 B deficit to a $300 M surplus. Wauwatosa public schools, where my two sons go, have improved their outlook. Basically, all WI schools are doing better by saving money due to reforms. They're now hiring more teachers, lowering classroom size, since they don't have to have this collective bargaining. Collective bargaining is not a right but an expensive entitlement. Now, teachers are hired or fired on merit, not on tenure or seniority.

B: I've heard school boards are boasting that they'll now be able to freeze or cut property tax levies due to your nearly "magical" plan.

W: Yes, the WEA trust- union run health plan- is now saving HUGE amounts due to there being no collective bargaining. We have, literally, example after example. This saved money is able to go back to the classroom.

B: Governor, the national unions vowed to break you. But, they couldn't change the legislature, which is a victory for you. The city of Milwaukee is now 10-20 million dollars to the better due to government reforms. They'll become more popular as time goes on.

W: I disliked the recalls, as I said, and wanted to get them over and done with. But I think, actually, that later (September '11 or Jan 12) recalls would have been good for us because the situation in the schools is getting better. Parents and teachers are now constantly praising me. Good hardworking decent teachers are excited. Property taxes in WI will go down. Despite all the attack adds against me- union money- the reforms are great and helping WI attract more jobs.

B: The lesson for Republicans nationally is, that if we stick to our conservative principles, they'll work and Rs and the nation will be better off. Do you have anything to say to other Rs about your experience?

W: Republicans have to stay on point and be positive! Don't be frustrated, make your point over and over and over, how you'll make it work. Stay on point! Don't lash out! Our candidates got outspent 3-1 in the recalls but we stayed on point Mitch Daniels did the same thing in IN and the voters re-elected him. Results matter!

B: You were accused of destroying education, governor, and that people would be laid off, but in NY Bloomberg is the one laying teachers (770) off! The state of IL to our south, BORROWED money and increased taxes and are still laying off! We see layoffs coming in places that refused to cut! WI cut and is thriving!

W: I got a chuckle against people who said we were attacking the middle class. The middle class pay most of our tax burden in WI!. Our structural changes have helped our budget and protected these middle class jobs and their tax rates by asking the unions to pay just a tiny bit more. That helps our state.

B: Governor, I'm convinced that the attacks on you were so strong because the unions KNEW that your plan would work and therefore people would see that gov. unionization for the problem that it is. And, sure enough, it's happening and I think your techniques will spread.

W: We had some advantages. In OH, Gov. Kasich didn't have our advantages- his law is not being enacted right now. But in our case, over time, it has become clear and will become clearer that our reforms have been very helpful and they'll become more popular. Despite the attacks. we've been on point with our issues and the results are working.

B: America is looking for conservatives like you to stick to your guns and get rid of the government waste to help fix our problems!

W: Mark, the great thing about America is that in times of crisis is that, for over 200 years, our leaders have thought about their kids and fellow citizens rather than their own jobs.

B: Thank you, Governor.

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all those layoffs we are seeing now would have happened two years ago without the Obama stimulus plan. These are the jobs the Obama stimulus plan saved. Since we are now losing them, one could argue the stimulus didn't work. Nonetheless. The stimulus did waht it was intended to do and that was give the country a chance to recover from this. The fact that we didnot is because it was much worse than most people recognise.

secondly? those "budget balancing numbers" were in fact balanced on the employees backs. They conrtibuted that 11 million dollars (not 20)

B: Governor, the national unions vowed to break you. But, they couldn't change the legislature, which is a victory for you. The city of Milwaukee is now 10-20 million dollars to the better due to government reforms. They'll become more popular as time goes on.


so, basically you could argue that he raised Taxes on the public employees...

even if you don't want to accept that argument? you have to admit that those teachers will have lees money to go out and go shopping with.


W: I got a chuckle against people who said we were attacking the middle class. The middle class pay most of our tax burden in WI!. Our structural changes have helped our budget and protected these middle class jobs and their tax rates by asking the unions to pay just a tiny bit more. That helps our state.

it's not just a tiny bit more to a teacher who is not well paid to begin with, nad now those peple will have less money to send out intot he community and the economy will get worse, not better...


the myth that our economic woes are from Govt debt cannot be supported by ANY facts.

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