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RD? Remember the "water-board" challenge?

I can guaran-phucking-tee you that I can put you in room such that anyone in the room EVEN suggesting what this puke was suggesting--and suddenly they're suggesting it about you?

How's that make you feel?

Suppose a poll, somewhere:

"Hey, I know RDQ's address: Should we kill RDQ?"

I' damn sure wouldn't like that, if it were

about me.

Furthermore, I [I got a software challenge, will re-post, later ...

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Yeah but it's not illegal Tex... It was fairly apparent from the options that the whole thing was entirely sarcastic.
And speaking of switching places.. If that chap had posted the same question about you or me.. Would we even know?
Would there be an investigation?
Nope..
Why?
There were probably a million similar posts made about W.. **** many made by active politicians...
Yet no fury?
Why?
Dangerous times we live in.

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Sorry to change the subject, but this ain't good:

quote:
White House Proposes Changes in Bill Protecting Reporters’ Confidentiality

By CHARLIE SAVAGE
Published: September 30, 2009

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration has told lawmakers that it opposes legislation that could protect reporters from being imprisoned if they refuse to disclose confidential sources who leak material about national security, according to several people involved with the negotiations.

The administration this week sent to Congress sweeping revisions to a “media shield” bill that would significantly weaken its protections against forcing reporters to testify.

The bill includes safeguards that would require prosecutors to exhaust other methods for finding the source of the information before subpoenaing a reporter, and would balance investigators’ interests with “the public interest in gathering news and maintaining the free flow of information.”

But under the administration’s proposal, such procedures would not apply to leaks of a matter deemed to cause “significant” harm to national security. Moreover, judges would be instructed to be deferential to executive branch assertions about whether a leak caused or was likely to cause such harm, according to officials familiar with the proposal.

The two Democratic senators who have been prime sponsors of the legislation, Charles E. Schumer of New York and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, said on Wednesday that they were disappointed by the administration’s position.

more here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/01/us/01shield.html?th=&adxnnl=1&emc=th&adxnnlx=1 254398587-Uz7T4Xx48TIp8cLFISI0GA

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change welcomed... yet another nail in the coffin... What was that software issue no that we"re off subject.
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Although the United States sent a high-powered delegation to make a last-ditch effort to bring the 2016 Olympics to Chicago, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) ruled out the Windy City today. Of the final four cities — which also included Madrid, Toyko, and Rio — Chicago received the fewest votes. In his speech to the IOC in Copenhagen today, President Obama tied the American dream to the Olympic spirit in his pitch for the United States:

[Chicago is] a bustling metropolis with the warmth of a small town; where the world already comes together every day to live and work and reach for a dream — a dream that no matter who we are, where we come from; no matter what we look like or what hand life has dealt us; with hard work, and discipline, and dedication, we can make it if we try.

That’s not just the American Dream. That is the Olympic spirit. It’s the essence of the Olympic spirit. That’s why we see so much of ourselves in these Games. That’s why we want them in Chicago. That’s why we want them in America.

Always looking for a way to bring down Obama, conservatives not only criticized the President’s 15-hour trip, but also spent this week denegrating Chicago, downplaying the Olympics, and rooting against America. The criticisms have included mocking “fat people” in Chicago, gushing that Rio is just plain “awesome,” and saying that Chicago is too violent and doesn’t deserve the event. Watch a compilation:

So how will all these conservatives who have been rooting against the United States react now that their rhetoric has become reality? On Twitter, former Bush spokesman Scott Stanzel cautioned Republicans against gloating: “Note to GOP officials/consultants – resist the temptation to pile on about Chicago losing the Olympic bid just because Obama made the pitch.” His message didn’t reach RedState’s Erick Erickson, who immediately wrote:

Hahahahaha. I thought the world would love us more now that Bush was gone. I thought if we whored ourselves out to our enemies, great things would happen. Apparently not.

Bringing the Olympics wasn’t about cronyism. Besides U.S. pride, it was about an event that could have generated $22.5 billion in economic activity and the equivalent of 315,000 new full-time jobs in America.

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Obama has focused on all but what is most imp. JOBS. His stimulus was mostly pork.

I am glad Chicago didnt get the Olympics? Why should it - crime , too much of a violent corrupt city.

And, jobs is what small business does best when govt creates the atmosphere. But big O just wants a welfare state so he can reidistribute. If Chicago wants jobs, then it should be condusive for free enterprise and less violence. I wouldnt want to live there amidst the corruption.

Chicago like USA needs JOBS, JOBS, JOBS and not pork stiumulus, and govt meddling in our lives.

Big govt is anti to job creation -

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that's just an unbelievable attitude TM...

Atlanta, St Louis, Nashville, Memphis, Dallas, and Houston are all rated worse in crime and just plain being dangerous... those are all in red states BTW.....

Chicago doesn't even get into the top 25 most dangerous cities on this list:

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit05pop.htm


this:
$22.5 billion in economic activity and the equivalent of 315,000 new full-time jobs in America.

isn't a guess....


all Capitalism is cronyism, and dope dealing is about the only free enterprise left in this country...

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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
change welcomed... yet another nail in the coffin... What was that software issue no that we"re off subject.

I dunno...lost control of my cursor such that it was racing back and forth, characters I typed were not the ones that displayed. Thought it was a bad virus, but rebooted the next morning and no problem. quien sabe...

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i had that problem once... the hangover was the worst part [Big Grin]

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Glass-

Yes, I suppose it is. Just I am saddened and frustrated and that Obama has not addressed the No.1 issue - JOBS - this is my country and I feel we are headed the wrong way - the values Obama espouse are not the tradtional values that made this country -

He should have addressed JOBS first, then decicit--
and, act as commander in chief but he constantly is in limelight and goes marketing Chicago to benefit the crooks there --

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Take care of the market and the jobs will be there.

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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless.:
Yeah but it's not illegal Tex... It was fairly apparent from the options that the whole thing was entirely sarcastic.
And speaking of switching places.. If that chap had posted the same question about you or me.. Would we even know?
Would there be an investigation?
Nope..
Why?
There were probably a million similar posts made about W.. **** many made by active politicians...
Yet no fury?
Why?
Dangerous times we live in.

The whole Bush regime was dangerous. Still, I'm not aware of any similar events during his tenure. It wouldn't be OK to come out with a poll, "Should more federal buildings be bombed?"

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Glass-

Yes, I suppose it is. Just I am saddened and frustrated and that Obama has not addressed the No.1 issue - JOBS - this is my country and I feel we are headed the wrong way - the values Obama espouse are not the tradtional values that made this country -

He should have addressed JOBS first, then decicit--
and, act as commander in chief but he constantly is in limelight and goes marketing Chicago to benefit the crooks there --

thing is TM? when Bush was pushing those tax rebates? that was called job creation, and when he pushed his home-ownership initiative? that was also supposed to be creating jobs...


i never expected Obama to be superman, i just don't really know what the Presidnet is supposed to do to create jobs...

the President is supposed to enforce laws, run the military, and sign legislation...

the congress is supposed to write the legislation...


cutting Govt spending doesn't create jobs either..

we do need to hold our govt spending to less growth until the economy can "catch up" with it, but cutting spending will hurt economic growth.

Tex's point is dead on. create a more "hospitable" investment environment? and jobs will follow...

put the crooks in jail, enforce the laws we already have!

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Stop spending and lessen taxes for small business - hence, a better investment environment -

Address the deficit -

Big Gvt is anti small business - job creation-
Big govt also kills motivation and incentive - without that investment does not thrive -


We work for a better life for ourselves, our kids and not for the welfare folks -

Obama just keeps spending as if blank check - but it is on our BACKS AND our childrens back -

Why is Obama so involved in all? He should lead not dictate -

He should focus on being a commander in chief and leading and executin legislation but instead he is creating big GOVT with the Democratic Congress-

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TM,

start here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/29127316/the_great_american_bubble_ma chine/1

very good read

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A prez should spend wisely, care for the military and unite the nation -

Obama has been spending as I said as if blank check - has not given the attention to the military as he should- he has simply wanted attention vs being commandeer in chief -
and the nation is very divided -

So, maybe he should start replacing I with we -
As I said before it is not about him - he is the elected leader -
And a leader is a servant for the people -

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Stop spending and lessen taxes for small business - hence, a better investment environment -

Address the deficit -

Big Gvt is anti small business - job creation-
Big govt also kills motivation and incentive - without that investment does not thrive -


We work for a better life for ourselves, our kids and not for the welfare folks -

Obama just keeps spending as if blank check - but it is on our BACKS AND our childrens back -

Why is Obama so involved in all? He should lead not dictate -

He should focus on being a commander in chief and leading and executin legislation but instead he is creating big GOVT with the Democratic Congress-

comeon, we've been over that...

when the system collapsed? we had to shore it up...

you and i can disagree about how bad it collpased, but it seems pretty obvious at this point that we will hit 10% (reported) unemployment (15 % real), and my best guess is that we would have more than doubled that if we hadn't done bailouts...

i don't like 'em, but the alternative was bleak...

Govt spending is a significant portion of GDP.. increasing Govt spending makes the GDP LOOK bigger, which in turn "shortens" the "recession" (? [Roll Eyes] )

it's the same thing the GOP would have done had they been in power.

it's a luxury that they could sit in the minority after they made this mess and critisize the spending..

it is important that we not keep spending like this, it is even more important to stop growth in spending over Bush's last budget for severla years while the economy "catches up in size",

but?

we cannot cut spending, it will damage the economy ever worse than it has been.. govt money spent does in fact mostly go to pay paychecks, which people do spend...

i know that several popular talking heads spend all of their time harping on this, and they seem to present good arguments- even Dave ramsey who is generally very commonsensical, harps about it...

there is absolutely no factual evidence to back up these claims tho... (it's never even been done once, much less proven or duplicated)...

Bush used to say (when he increased spending) that as a percentage of GDP? the govt spending is no worse than any time before...

his point was that the larger the economy? the larger the spending will be...

cutting taxes? he did that... it didn't help either...

we do need jobs... but we also need customers... and we need to stop importing so much crap from China...

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
A prez should spend wisely, care for the military and unite the nation -

Obama has been spending as I said as if blank check - has not given the attention to the military as he should- he has simply wanted attention vs being commandeer in chief -
and the nation is very divided -

So, maybe he should start replacing I with we -
As I said before it is not about him - he is the elected leader -
And a leader is a servant for the people -

obama is trying desperately to unite the nation..the gop fight him every step..they are the ones that are disrupting this nation. fear mongering and lies, to encourage their ignorant base. I think its funny when the gop says we need smaller govnt...ok, good, lets start with your job..you baffoon.. [BadOne]

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
we need to stop importing so much crap from China...

WE need to stop buying crap from China...only then will they stop importing it...

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how can we buy it if we dont import it?...

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Personally I make my own crap naturally. Haven't found anyone who will pay me for it yet though.

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JR...Why would they stop importing it if we continue to BUY it?

If you're not part of the solution...you're part of the problem...

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quote:
Originally posted by The Bigfoot:
Personally I make my own crap naturally. Haven't found anyone who will pay me for it yet though.

Big...You certainly don't seem to have a problem spreading it...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
Stop spending and lessen taxes for small business - hence, a better investment environment -

Address the deficit -

Big Gvt is anti small business - job creation-
Big govt also kills motivation and incentive - without that investment does not thrive -


We work for a better life for ourselves, our kids and not for the welfare folks -

Obama just keeps spending as if blank check - but it is on our BACKS AND our childrens back -

Why is Obama so involved in all? He should lead not dictate -

He should focus on being a commander in chief and leading and executin legislation but instead he is creating big GOVT with the Democratic Congress-

comeon, we've been over that...

when the system collapsed? we had to shore it up...

you and i can disagree about how bad it collpased, but it seems pretty obvious at this point that we will hit 10% (reported) unemployment (15 % real), and my best guess is that we would have more than doubled that if we hadn't done bailouts...

i don't like 'em, but the alternative was bleak...

Govt spending is a significant portion of GDP.. increasing Govt spending makes the GDP LOOK bigger, which in turn "shortens" the "recession" (? [Roll Eyes] )

it's the same thing the GOP would have done had they been in power.

it's a luxury that they could sit in the minority after they made this mess and critisize the spending..

it is important that we not keep spending like this, it is even more important to stop growth in spending over Bush's last budget for severla years while the economy "catches up in size",

but?

we cannot cut spending, it will damage the economy ever worse than it has been.. govt money spent does in fact mostly go to pay paychecks, which people do spend...

i know that several popular talking heads spend all of their time harping on this, and they seem to present good arguments- even Dave ramsey who is generally very commonsensical, harps about it...

there is absolutely no factual evidence to back up these claims tho... (it's never even been done once, much less proven or duplicated)...

Bush used to say (when he increased spending) that as a percentage of GDP? the govt spending is no worse than any time before...

his point was that the larger the economy? the larger the spending will be...

cutting taxes? he did that... it didn't help either...

we do need jobs... but we also need customers... and we need to stop importing so much crap from China...

I suspect TM has *not* read the Rolling Stone piece...

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
A prez should spend wisely, care for the military and unite the nation -

Obama has been spending as I said as if blank check - has not given the attention to the military as he should- he has simply wanted attention vs being commandeer in chief -
and the nation is very divided -

So, maybe he should start replacing I with we -
As I said before it is not about him - he is the elected leader -
And a leader is a servant for the people -

TM, you write: A prez should spend wisely, care for the military and unite the nation

Some very brief questions for you.

1. Who was the most recent "prez" to spend wisely?

2. Which "prez" in your opinion has best cared for the military?

3. Re: "unite the nation," how do you intend that? Are you looking to GW? Reagan? Clinton? Carter? Nixon? LBJ? JFK?

inquiring minds want to know.

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Put more spending power in the hands of working people. That is what is needed and job creation Small business they get the power to cheat on their taxes and pay a lot less than they whine about. And don't get me wrong I love small business people and their spirit give them tax incentives for spending more and improving there business give working people more cash in fist and you have a double shot with a lot of power

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Put more spending power in the hands of working people. That is what is needed and job creation Small business they get the power to cheat on their taxes and pay a lot less than they whine about. And don't get me wrong I love small business people and their spirit give them tax incentives for spending more and improving there business give working people more cash in fist and you have a double shot with a lot of power

Ray?

Get some sleep, bro--you're working on a good post, but you ain't there, yet. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
Put more spending power in the hands of working people. That is what is needed and job creation Small business they get the power to cheat on their taxes and pay a lot less than they whine about. And don't get me wrong I love small business people and their spirit give them tax incentives for spending more and improving there business give working people more cash in fist and you have a double shot with a lot of power

Ray?

Get some sleep, bro--you're working on a good post, but you ain't there, yet. [Big Grin]

One more thing I would like to add...sentences would be nice...

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All fall short from the glory of God but that is what a prez should work for -

1. Obama has increased the deficit more than any prez alive or dead - critics say necessary but I say BS. So, he is the extreme in spending. When you spend more than you have - bankrupt and devastation for this country. I am sorry but I
I dont want fiefdom for my kids nor a poverty nation. Obama continues to spend and Congress better stop him if we want a country.

2. Care for the military - A prez is the commander in chief - I think Afghanistan, Iraq are more important than IOC. Instead of his ego appearances all over the networks, he should work at being Commander in Chief.

3. Unite the nation - A leader unites - Obama has divided this nation along racial and economic lines far from his promises - you can blame who you want but a leader knows how to unite --

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wow...you are sooo fearful...scary

you need to step back and stop listening to the lies and scare tactics..

put your trust in your god and take care of your own...

you and yours will be fine...

you sound so scared I begin to wonder about you.

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TM says....."Obama has divided this nation along racial and economic lines"


could you please explain this absurd fearful statement ?...and provide some facts?

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Jordanreed - due to your animosity towards me and you not knowing - I will not respond to you -
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But, I will say this -will not debate with one that is ludricous and ranting -
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didnt think i was ranting..only asking you to provide some basis for your statement...


hmmm,,,seems you have no facts..i'm not surprised..

care to comment on michelle Bachmans.."facts" about sex clinics in schools and secret abortions performed?

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quote:
Originally posted by thinkmoney:
All fall short from the glory of God but that is what a prez should work for -

1. Obama has increased the deficit more than any prez alive or dead - critics say necessary but I say BS. So, he is the extreme in spending. When you spend more than you have - bankrupt and devastation for this country. I am sorry but I
I dont want fiefdom for my kids nor a poverty nation. Obama continues to spend and Congress better stop him if we want a country.

2. Care for the military - A prez is the commander in chief - I think Afghanistan, Iraq are more important than IOC. Instead of his ego appearances all over the networks, he should work at being Commander in Chief.

3. Unite the nation - A leader unites - Obama has divided this nation along racial and economic lines far from his promises - you can blame who you want but a leader knows how to unite --

1) you say BS, but why? It sounds as though you're shooting from the hip, rather than taking an informed opinion.

2) Bush scwoowed the pooch re Iraq & Afghanistan, not Obama.

3) The diviseness comes with the malmemes from Rush et al, very poorly informed, inflammatory statements.

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