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osubucks30
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Can it all be saved?? I guess money is no option!! $3.5 TRILLION SO FAR AND NOW THE AUTO INDUSTRY!! BUY GOLD I GUESS! Its actually pretty scary! Might be alot worse then we all imagined I mean $3.5 Trillion???? WOW

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http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/126117/Cost-of-the-Bailout:-$3.5T-S o-Far,-But-Real-Cost-May-Be-Much-Higher

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This is what $3.5 Trillion looks like:
$3,500,000,000,000!!

Divide that with America's population of around 300 million:
3,500,000,000,000/300,000,000

AND WHAT DO YOU GET:

$11,666.67 per person!

I would say America is BANKRUPT!!

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In six years, U.S. Public debt has increased from 4 trillion to Eleven trillion dollars

The current Debt Limit was increased from $10.615 trillion to $11.315 trillion, effective October 3, 2008.

The estimated population of the United States 2006 is around 300,000,000 people. David M. Walker, Comptroller General of the US and head of the Government Accountability Office, in his December 17, 2007, report to the US Congress on the financial statements of the US government noted that "the federal government did not maintain effective internal control over financial reporting (including safeguarding assets) and compliance with significant laws and regulations as of September 30, 2007."

The US government cannot pass an audit.

The GAO report states accrued liabilities of the federal government "totaled approximately $53 trillion as of September 30, 2007."

No funds have been set aside against the liability.

The estimated net worth of all American families is about $47 trillion, reducing as property values reduce.

Source: http://www.thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/us_debt.html

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The thing we have going for us is that if the dollar and the US collapse most of the world comes with us.
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It trumps anything else the government has ever spent except for WWII! According to this the cost so far is $3.8 TRILLION!!

Link on other big government spending in todays dollars (slideshow):
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27717424

Link to CNBC running tally and a breakdown of how they came up with $3.8 TRILLION:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/27719011

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I am not an expert analyst, but if we all invested(at the present moment) that $11k in the right stock(or gold?) How long will it take for America to be.., let's say.., rich? or better off?
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The problem is that the majority of the 300 mil probably don't have $11K in savings, debt maybe.

We're also probably closer to 400 mil, than 300 mil.

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This bailout is NOT going to work! They can not even figure out where the money would best be spent!!!! They keep changing their minds!

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
The problem is that the majority of the 300 mil probably don't have $11K in savings, debt maybe.

We're also probably closer to 400 mil, than 300 mil.

Nope current estimate is just a tad above 305 million.

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http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html

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Huh, I wonder how many of that 305 Million are illegals living in our country?

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:
Huh, I wonder how many of that 305 Million are illegals living in our country?

Like it matters... it wasn't them who caused this economic collapse... it was greedy corporations... and the Iraq war with it's $12 billion per month going there and the rise of oil all these years... no amount of illegal immigration causes this.. there is always other factors alot larger...

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Like it matters... it wasn't them who caused this economic collapse... it was greedy corporations... and the Iraq war with it's $12 billion per month going there and the rise of oil all these years... no amount of illegal immigration causes this.. there is always other factors alot larger...

So you're saying that all these things caused Americans to spend beyond thier means?

Our Government truly does reflect its' peoples.

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true Mach, you can't blame illegals for wanting jobs.

many have returned home already, and many more will soon.


In August, money transfers to Mexico dropped at their fastest pace since the country's central bank, Banco de Mexico, began tracking them in 1995. Transfers fell 12.2%, from $2.2 billion in August 2007 to $1.9 billion this August. And that was before the stock market tumbled.

The Mexican government expects remittances - a cash lifeline for millions of poor families in Mexico - to fall 7% to 8% this year, a huge increase from their prediction of a 2% to 3% drop just two months ago.

Remittances are second only to oil as Mexico's source of foreign income.

Nationwide, Mexico is the No. 1 source of foreign-born residents, accounting for nearly three out of 10 of the 31 million foreign-born people in the U.S.



http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/08/2008-11-08_lagging_local_economy_ cuts_down_on_remit.html

note that 31 million figure is not for illegals, just foreign born individuals.

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Wasn't Al Gore originally an estimated winner of the US Presidency...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:


note that 31 million figure is not for illegals, just foreign born individuals.

Most people don't differeniate between the two... usually because of their bigotry...

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quote:
Originally posted by Peaser:


So you're saying that all these things caused Americans to spend beyond thier means?

Our Government truly does reflect its' peoples.

Our Gov'ts, Corporations, Religions etc... and that because it is human nature... no matter your citizenship, race, religion etc.

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these good banks we have will have good car loan plans for The Big 3 after the bailouts.., what a blessing.
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And all the bailout loans get paid back. [Smile]
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Wouldnt now be a good time to exploit Iraqs oil resources for our own benefit.

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Wouldnt now be a good time to exploit Iraqs oil resources for our own benefit.

Should of done it long long time ago... afterall wasn't that the plan in the first place? [Roll Eyes]

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http://www.allstocks.com/stockmessageboard/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi/ubb/get_topic/ f/14/t/004663/p/1.html?

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Pretty sad. The real pricetag of this "bailout", IMO, will be much more than 700 billion. The goverment is just saying that to "coushin the blow" to the already broken American Taxpayer. I'm thinking it will cost more like 5 to 6 trillion, if you look at it in purely monetary terms.

The TRUE costs, however, will be much, much higher.



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