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Predominately black areas of Hampton Roads in VA are favoring Obama. So far VA 49% Mcain 50% Obama. Still missing some, and looks like right here in VA beach we're holding things up a bit.
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By the way, The house is looking to win 25 or more NEW seats for the Democrats. Something that happened again under Bush. Bush really gave the world the finger and didnt think much about what would happen, or he didnt care.
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There is a HUGE party going on outside the White House for Obama. They were showing it on the news. Lots of flashing cameras, lights, cheering etc all to talk smack to Bush. Pretty funny I thought.
Now this is what I worry for.... Obama, Pelosi and Reid run riot on this country
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quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: By the way, The house is looking to win 25 or more NEW seats for the Democrats. Something that happened again under Bush. Bush really gave the world the finger and didnt think much about what would happen, or he didnt care.
i really believe that Bush surrounded himself with liars and didn't know it. He definitely allowed his closest people to make sure his decisions were not based on all the facts.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: you know? it's going to be odd having a president that actually knows what's going to come out of his mouth when he opens it....
Nice speech there. The chants are a bit weird but nice speech.
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My only hope, please wacko racist Americans (you know who you are), please give the new pres. a chance. I fear for Obama and the country because of these nut's, I wouldn't want to be in his shoes and god forbid... holy sh*t, there would be a civil war of epic proportions, the Rodney King trial was just a pre-cursor.
Most of you were thinking it, I just said it.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: I think they could of put in a real donkey and he would have beat McCain. Bush did 'em in, just like Clinton did in Gore.
I don't think Bubba did in Gore... I put the blame on Nader and what happened in Florida...
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Yeah, but if the whole b.j. thing hadn't happened, it wouldn't have even been close. ..."What is, is"? A lot of people became holyer than thou after the Lewinsky thing.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Yeah, but if the whole b.j. thing hadn't happened, it wouldn't have even been close. ..."What is, is"? A lot of people became holyer than thou after the Lewinsky thing.
yeah, alot of us had kids in late elem school jr high that got a serious dose of oral is not sex while we were at the dinner table. that makes for some difficult family discussions.
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quote:Well, now there will be soon a day where no other soldiers will have to go through a 15 or 12 month Iraq deployment over a bullsh-- war.
You're kidding, right? Obama won't remove all the troops in 16 months like he promised. He can't do it. Additionally, Obama has pledged to send more troops to Afghanistan, so the deployments will continue. At the same time, the wacko left wants to cut defense spending. On October 25, Barney Frank declared his intention to reduce defense spending by 25%!
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PM is a sick jerk still. Isn't it sad that after an election that clearly will change the whole world there are isolated pockets of stupidity that start out immediately to rot the fruit.
Changing subject:
As to Bush being the reason for McCain loosing, I disagree. I disagree that Clinton was the reason that Bush won. In either case, it is a gross over simplification to attribute the results of the election to just one motivation, though any particular voter may have had only one in mind when he or she voted. I can think of list of reasons in both cases, no one of which was likely the sole culprit. I would suspect that even for someone that had just one reason in mind for their vote as they cast the vote, there were many and different reasons that allowed that one to be the trigger. No one rain drop fills a lake.
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quote:PM is a sick jerk still. Isn't it sad that after an election that clearly will change the whole world there are isolated pockets of stupidity that start out immediately to rot the fruit.
As usual Professor Gibberish doesn't comment on the issue - because I'm right. All that leaves is his childish 3rd grade attacks. Maybe you can grow up under the new socialism.
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quote:PM is a sick jerk still. Isn't it sad that after an election that clearly will change the whole world there are isolated pockets of stupidity that start out immediately to rot the fruit.
As usual Professor Gibberish doesn't comment on the issue - because I'm right. All that leaves is his childish 3rd grade attacks. Maybe you can grow up under the new socialism.
The subject was not your biased lies about something completely different from the topic at hand and, even had you been on topic, the incessant and insulting name calling you can't speak without is out of place, boring, and tiring.
Your intellectual level is that of a preschooler, still with the emotional direction and ego satisfaction hunger of a two year old that mama and daddy never resisted. It is no wonder that anything not aimed straight at soothing your biases and selfishness is viewed as nothing but gibberish, in your stilted view, which can only interpret what is or isn't sating your primal mania of self? Of course not. You are an immature selfish leach on society.
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Prof. Gibberish, the issue is and was whether Obama will be able to withdrawal all the troops in 16 months as he promised. Very easy to understand for people that read, write, and understand English. Of course, that isn't you and I understand that you are frustrated by being continually wrong on the issues.
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"Very easy to understand for people that read, write, and understand English."
Yep, I understand, makes it a serious problem for the likes of you. And I want you to know, it shows in your post like a black eye does on an albino. You aren't being misinterpreted. We know.
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I think the troops are out of Iraq in 16 except for a small group stationed for training and support like we have in many nations. Afghanistan...no. They will not be out in 16 months. Those mountains can hide a man 10 feet away. They will retake control there quickly but the insurgency will not fade easily. Especially if they are as entrenched in the Pakistani borderlands as they are believed to be.
All in all though I do expect a large withdrawal of troop levels and a significant reduction in active military spending. Resupply of our munitions and weaponry will be costly though.
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There are two huge dangers to the U. S. that far exceed the dangers that would ensue from getting out of Iraq.
One is global warming. We share that danger with the whole world and, if not checked, it very likely will eliminate any need for concerns with problems so elementary as man made political triviality like war and finance.
The financial trap into which the mania of free marketism has cast the entirety of human society will undermine any hope of attacking the problem of global warming, so it too must be attended to, before and even more than Iraq.
However, that isn't to say that war in Iraq isn't a primary consideration during that quest.
And for one overwhelming reason.
The enormous amounts of funds that have been wasted in order to invade and occupy Iraq and those that would be needed in the future to continue that fiasco make any honest attempt to garner the research and development that the problem of global warming poses inconsequential.
Any such funds need to be directed to that one end specifically! And that may well mean that any who oppose attacking global warming on whatever grounds, be they political, religious, or financial, should be bluntly and publically ignored.
The existence of human society is in the gravest danger it has ever faced.
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