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I told my partner at work "Whats up girl" after she said hello to me (Forgot her name.) She is taking me to Labor Relations to try and get me fired when I go to work today. She said that comment is a VERY VERY RACIST comment.
After she told me it was Racist....she immediately asked me if I would vote for Omama....I said most likely but that I didn't care for either candidate. She said is it because Obama is BLACK? I said that was silly and its because I don't care for the muslem rumors I hear about. So she is taking me upstairs for having an opinion on muslems too.
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Now, on the more serious side of this. I just completed our companies manager retraining on employment law and here's the serious truth...
White men (under age 40) are the only 'class' that isn't in a 'protected class.'
Sadly, that means that anything you say to anyone that isn't a white male can get you taken to your version of Human Resources if the hearer takes offense from it. It doesn't matter what you intended, it's what they understood (or sometimes claim to have understood).
More than likely if that's all you said and you don't have any record of bad behaviour you'll get a stern 'be careful with what you say' and a lecture on diversity and that's it. But I would be careful with this co-worker in the future.
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Senator Robert Byrd Receives KKK Lifetime Achievement Award
By N. B. Forrest
HANGMAN'S GROVE, WEST VIRGINIA — Billy Bob Cracker, President and CEO of the Klu Klux Klan (KKK), has chosen Senator Robert Byrd (D-Wva.) as this year’s recipient of the KKK’s Lifetime Achievement Award. The award was presented at the 133rd Annual KKK Transparent Image Awards, taped last night and scheduled to air April 1st (8:00 p.m. ET) on FOX.
“The Lifetime Achievement Award reflects individuals at the pinnacle of their respective fields who’ve made significant contributions to the success of the KKK," Cracker said. "Senator Byrd exemplifies this prestigious award; no living person has worked as hard as he has to keep the black man dependant on, and subservient to, the white man. Not to mention his outstanding work against Jews and Catholics.”
Senator Byrd’s legislative accomplishments, as well as his ascension as the only KKK alumnus to serve as the Majority Leader of the US Senate, a post he served in for six years (1977-80, 1987-88), made him an obvious choice for this year’s Lifetime Achievement Award. “This distinction, awarded to those who advance the ideals of the KKK through personal achievement and service to all people of Caucasian and protestant heritage, accurately describes the contributions Senator Byrd has made to our racially pure organization,” Cracker said.
Born in 1917 in North Wilkesboro, North Carolina, Robert Byrd was orphaned when his mother was killed in a tragic sausage making accident. Taken to West Virginia by his Auntie Belham and Uncle Peduncle, the future KKK Lifetime Achievement recipient grew up mastering life's early lessons, like learning the proper way to tie a noose. Unable to receive a taxpayer-funded college education, Senator Byrd sought to make a buck wherever he found an opportunity—pumping gas at a filling station, working as a white sheet salesman, and then becoming a “Kleagle” in the Klu Klux Klan—picking up new skills as he advanced. One of those skills—recruiting other white, protestant bigots for the KKK—was in demand at the time, and he worked during the war years of the early 1940’s building the rank and file of the Klan.
After WWII came to an end, Byrd had a vision of what his state and nation should be: a bastion of ignorant, inbred, government-subsidized, white racists. In 1946, in his first attempt at elected office, he was elected to the West Virginia House of Delegates. After that he went on to serve in the US House of Representatives and the US Senate. He has served longer in the United States Senate than anyone else in West Virginia's history, an indication of the moral depravity and lack of work ethic of most West Virginians.
In presenting the award to Senator Byrd, Billy Bob Cracker remarked, “Senator Byrd is living proof that being a member of the KKK is not an insurmountable obstacle, so long as you are resolved to push forward against decency and realize your dreams. He filibustered the 1964 Civil Rights Act. He opposed the nominations of the only Negro justices of the Supreme Court. And he fought valiantly against integrating the military when he wrote, ‘I vow never to fight with a Negro by my side. Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.’ That is why I am honored to salute Senator Robert Byrd as this year’s KKK Lifetime Achievement Award recipient.”
In accepting the award, Byrd reflected on his years serving the interests of Klan members and remarked, "The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth in every state in the Union."
Last year's KKK Lifetime Achievement Award went to Bill Clinton. The KKK Transparent Image Awards are presented each year to those who strive to deny meaningful opportunities for, and inflict insurmountable harm on, African Americans, Jews, and all other "race mongrels." Past recipients have included David Duke, Barbara Boxer, Jesse Jackson, Michael Jackson, and Martha Stewart.
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"But..?? can you pinch her booty?..can you say booty..??can you say .." I luv chocolate"..?
can you tell people to vote for obama because he's black?...can I call a white man brother?
Its a fine line..
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It really is a fine line.
I think it also has to do with the way different people say things.
But bottom line for me is that i have always called people by their name in a respectfull way so as to not have any problem.
It has worked all these years.
Actually, the bottom line boils down to the individuals involved. Something you can say to one person, regardless of gender or ethinicity, can be taken totally differnet by the next person. Always better to err on the side of caution if you like your job IMO.
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quote:Originally posted by R1 Man: I told my partner at work "Whats up girl" after she said hello to me (Forgot her name.) She is taking me to Labor Relations to try and get me fired when I go to work today. She said that comment is a VERY VERY RACIST comment.
After she told me it was Racist....she immediately asked me if I would vote for Omama....I said most likely but that I didn't care for either candidate. She said is it because Obama is BLACK? I said that was silly and its because I don't care for the muslem rumors I hear about. So she is taking me upstairs for having an opinion on muslems too.
What the hell is up with society???
i'd give you my opinion, but it would probably just get you into more trouble
let us know how it turned out, some people don't realise that filing frivolous complaints can get them fired too...
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Yep, she tried to real me in good. I hit her back for this. She had asked me if I have ever dated black women or would? I said I didn't but kissed a girl I was going to date when I was younger but the girl ended up pregnant with somebody else. She said she kissed a white guy when she was in high school and said mixing black and white was wrong back when she was in high school. So I said if what I said is racist, then saying dating white men is wrong is a racist statement then. I even nail my union steward for saying that some people are Bigets. (Think I spelled that right). Needless to say, I had my committee man and day shift steward get on the 2nd shift steward and the girl to cut out the BS. They told her that I would get fired and that I am a single parent with a little boy to raise and she decided to back off and said for me to never look at her or speak to her again.
If it was up to me. I would cuss her ass out for making the damn dramma!!!
I guess some people are just predigest (spelling) towards any race. To me she seems like she isn't comfortable with caucasion. Who knows. But it should of never went where she took it.
quote:Originally posted by R1 Man: I told my partner at work "Whats up girl" after she said hello to me (Forgot her name.) She is taking me to Labor Relations to try and get me fired when I go to work today. She said that comment is a VERY VERY RACIST comment.
After she told me it was Racist....she immediately asked me if I would vote for Omama....I said most likely but that I didn't care for either candidate. She said is it because Obama is BLACK? I said that was silly and its because I don't care for the muslem rumors I hear about. So she is taking me upstairs for having an opinion on muslems too.
What the hell is up with society???
Uhh... You should have let her know Obama is half white/black.
Besides "what's up girl", not racist. "you go girl", maybe...lol
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Its just a trap card. She was digging for more. I didn't post this I think but she said she is 2/3 native american but she considers herself black. I asked her why that is if she is 2/3 indian and 1/3 black. Guess that pissed her off too. Maybe she isn't proud to be indian???
But bottom line. We are ALL related. Our ancestors had to come from somewhere. Its just stupid to pretend that god made breeds of people. I believe in evolution.
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Once upon a time when I was at Tennessee State University (they call them "traditionally black colleges") sitting in my office early one morning before anyone else was there and watching the snow fall outside, the phone rang and woman's voice told me that I was to give her a particular students exam grades.
I told her that student's grades were protected by law and I couldn't do that. She then claimed to be a special assistant to the University President and I was ordered to give her the grades.
I replied that if the University president, himself, ordered me to give him, or her, the student's grades, as it was a violation of both State and Federal law, I would have to refuse, finishing with, "I'm sorry, maam, but if you really need them and the student doesn't object, he can give them to you, but I can't."
She exploded! I didn't get to say anything further, only listened for about 10 minutes as she railed and cursed me and aaccused me of every sort of racial bias that can b imagined.
I was told the next day, by a Dean (a black man), that she had filed an official complaint with some Federal prosecutor's office, claiming that I had referred to her with a racially specific word. When I asked the Dean exactly what I was supposed to have said, he told me I had referred to her as a slave by calling her "maam". "Oh no", I told him, "To begin with, I have no idea what her race is and furthermore, "maam" is the formal term and the only acceptable one for addressing the Queen of England, if you are not yourself royalty.
The Dean broke out into laughter. He apologized for bothering me with the complaint and I never heard again of the incident, except from a student organization (that clearly had some bone to pick with the woman...I refused and told them she deserved their respect) that wanted me to address some meeting of theirs.
So, I assume, in your case, the lady objects to being called "girl", probably taking that to be a parallel utterance as "boy" would be to a black male. You would have recognized the slur in calling a black man "boy", but maybe not calling black woman a "girl". A whole lot of these things are a matter of intent and if whomever she has complained to realizes you had no intent to degrade the woman, then I suspect it will be forgotten.
All in all, if you intend to be offended by someone, you can find an excuse and if you intend to not be offended, you can ignore anything said.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: All in all, if you intend to be offended by someone, you can find an excuse and if you intend to not be offended, you can ignore anything said.
Very well said!!
That is ridiculous that you dealt with that crap as well. I guess my father dealt with a guy at work too that didn't do any work on the weekends but sleep. My dad got yelled at for his worker not doing his job. When he approached him, they guy said my father was being racist by telling him he has to do his job or he will be wrote up. I guess my father responded, I can fire you for Dissobeying a direct order, Failure to do a job, Insubornation, Sleeping on company time, and many more. I guess the guy back off. But in all....I think its pretty sad that people pull out the minority cards so quickly and get away with it. I think if you play a card where you can fire someone or hurt their reputation...there better be repercussions if its found to be BS!! If they did that, I think the BS card wouldn't get played so often unless it was a real situation.
But again, the sad part is once your accussed, if you would have another problem. They will reflect on your past and say you must be now that 2 people complained.
I think I will just refer to stangers as "Whats up *****?"
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The work place has turned into a place where you almost have to walk on egg shells. It is not so much that the employer getting sued it is the employee's that suffer through job loss over nothing a lot of times.
I have conditioned myself over the years to be careful and I have changed my mind set and moral beliefs anyway as my eyes opened up.
Still I have seen a slip of a lip cause people there jobs
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quote:Originally posted by R1 Man: Its just a trap card. She was digging for more. I didn't post this I think but she said she is 2/3 native american but she considers herself black. I asked her why that is if she is 2/3 indian and 1/3 black. Guess that pissed her off too. Maybe she isn't proud to be indian???
But bottom line. We are ALL related. Our ancestors had to come from somewhere. Its just stupid to pretend that god made breeds of people. I believe in evolution.
You obviously don't know the bible very well, especialy genesis....to not know why there are different languages and such...it wasn't in Gods original plan....He made adam and eve, which was one race...then after sin and other events, things changed. Humans originaly were going to live for ever. Adam and eve lived in to the 900's.
Read the story about how God scattered the people and confused the languages...its right after the story about the tower of babel.
It's funny how some peole don't believe in GOD, with out knowing any of the proof, history, facts, ect. They just believe what they read in the National Geographic
Do you not realize that there is a whole nation of Jews (jews are both a race and religion)....that have the whole family tree maped out back to Adam and Eve???? No other nation can say that. And it's published in the bible. True story the bible list the family tree from christ back to adam and eve. You cant tell me that the whole jewish nation is delusional....its just not logical. This stuff is real. Real maricles happened from the real GOD!!! Open your eyes!!!!!
And for instance....there are dozens and dozens of nations and ancient nations that have the same legend/story of a great flood that was cause by man kind being eveil, and loaded animals on a boat. It's not a coincidence...just like in the story of babel....god scattered the survivors and the decendents of the flood...and they told the stories in different languages and countries after GOD scattered them and confused the language. Same thin with the sabbath....in evey language and country they kept a 7 day week, and call the 7th day the day of rest....in almost every country and language. and there's no other reason in astronomy for there to be a 7 day week or to call the seventh day the day of rest by coinicidence. It goes back to creation.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: so God created us 6000 years ago?
Nobody knows the exact year..but if you believe the bible....it is somewhere under 10,000 years it is believed. Give or take depending on a few different things.
There is no scientific basis for thinking the earth is millions of years old. Carbon dating is not acurate and has been proven to be B.S. All the fosils and oil was created almost instantly by the great flood.
Why do you think there are so many legends and stories of dragons???? It's because dinosaurs were around not to long ago and lived with humans. There's scientific proof that has been covered up.
Google it!
There has been tons of ancient vases and artifacts that have picture of people riding dinosaurs and doing various things with dinosaurs. In fact some of the pictures were more acurate then some scientists. Scientists make sketches of what some dinosaurs were thought to have looked like going by the bones they find....they were proved wrong by some of the anchient pictures of people with dinosaurs.
But of course you wont find this published in scientic journals. People think Scientist know alot, but just a hundred years ago doctors prescribed cocaine and tobbacco for illnesses and diseases In fact you could by cocaine at any local drug store or in your coca cola...right here in the US But in the short period of time since then we all of the suden know everything about life and the age of the planet?? People have no sense
The knowlege that we as humans have right now in this point in history, is like comparing the knowlege of a teenager to an adult....We think we know everything, but we have no clue. Just look at what scientis thought a few decades ago
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i won't argue that... people drew pictures of dinosaurs?
i'd like to see them...
i think you have an unusual expectation of what science and the scientific method is tho...
it sounds to me like you've been told to mistrust the most honest group of people on the planet... sure, they exagerate and get things wrong, but they publish their opinions with the evidence in the HOPES that somebody will prove them wrong and expand knowledge even further..
you might be surprised how many scientist still beleive in God even tho they are trained to be skeptics...
religious fundamentalists like to attack them and twist their reports because the fundamentalists don't want their beleif system challenged.
carbon dating has not been proven wrong, but if you are interested in how it works? you can find out very easily. carbon dating is a very reliable realitve dating system, but it is only reliable back to between 50,000 and 100,000 years...
dino bones are not carbon dated for instance...
Why do you think there are so many legends and stories of dragons?
from finding fossils of course..
dino bones are no longer even bone tho, they have become rocks...
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It's funny how some people believe in GOD, with out knowing any of the proof, history, facts, ect. They just believe what they read in the the bible.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: It's funny how some people believe in GOD, with out knowing any of the proof, history, facts, ect. They just believe what they read in the the bible.
I agree...those type of people are idiots
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quote:Originally posted by Sunnyside: Ok, getting back to topic:
I'm at a department meeting in a hospital. The director says "you haven't seen the other side of me, RN also stands for redneck."
Offended many people. Opinions?
Well, I would have to say "RedNeck" is far worse then what I said. And what I said was said to be VERY RACIST!!! So "RedNeck" must be on the same level as calling someone the "N-Word" or "White Boy".
See, we don't mind saying what we are if we're from a trailer park, south, rich family, etc. We really could care less. But maybe we should get offended. I should be offended because people don't like my College Football Team Ohio State Buckeyes. They discriminate against them by liking other teams.
Bottom line, Some people are trained to be racist and some are not. (You can be racist no matter what race you are). I believe if you grow up thinking a race is better or worse then the another. You are automatically racist. Think about it.
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There is not enough protection for employee's in the workplace today.
If a person has made remarks that really are appropriate then in most cases he will prevail.
For the ones that don't prevail and were in the right which i believe are very few, maybe the job was not worth being at.
But on the other side of the coin there are so many jerks out there that are in positions of authority that feel that anything they want to say or do is okay and get away with it.
Sure there are agencies that are suppose to protect these employee's that companies do not protect, but most of these agencies really do not do much for the employee they seem to be more pro business these days.
Most employee's are so afraid of losing their jobs therefore will not turn in these jerks who many times are supervisors for fear that these supervisors will retaliate against them.
It's really a personnal decision of what people what to say on the job and whether what they say is worth the risk, other than straight forward conversation.
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I know....I make hat bets every year and so far I have been lucky. Its ammusing seeing someone who talked so much trash about your team and they get stuck wearing you team's hat for a week. LOL
I didn't get raised in Michigan which I live in Metro Detroit. I lived in Livonia, MI and they are #2 safest city in the US last time I checked. Livonia is 95% white, 2% black and 3% other. Anytime I went to court for traffic, say they had 20 people. The make-up would be 17 Black, 1 Asian, 2 caucasions, myself and someone dressed with their pants hanging down. So racial profiling don't ya think?
But my point here is, maybe racial boundarys were created at an early stage. I know in Ohio where I grew up. Everyone was friends with everyone. We didn't have an Arabs for classmates but everyone got alone and hung out. For me, I didn't see much Racial problems growing up. So guess I assume it really doesn't exsist. Now I have talked to my friends that are black and they said its because a lot of black families had members who grow up thinking the white man is holding them down.
My father and I talked about it as well. He said being 30 and caucasion, I automatically have a bulleye on me for racial problems. Maybe he is right. He said the older adults in their 50's + can get away with saying things because they grew up during those times. Each generation has key norms. Think of the popular terms we once used.
"Dude, Gal, Groovy, Rad, Radical, Homeboy, Bro, Whazzz-Up!!, Hey man, hey sweetie, Punk, Hippie," and the list goes on. Today saying any of those terms can be considered being racist. Pretty sad!!
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