quote:NAFTA is a mess for both Mexico and the US-- the people who got hurt are workers on both side of the border...
Yes, it is a mess but it shouldn't be eliminated. It should be renegotiated & modified to correct the mistakes of it.
quote:don't make excuses for walmart it's called exploitation... i hate shopping there, but i have to, i buy only what i need to there and the few things i go there for a bargain on are US made stuff like triscuits and quaker oats which are US made anyway... heck i even had a Sams club membership back in the 80's and the 90's...
Whose making excuses for Wal-Mart? I certainly aren't. I hate the company and how they exploit their employees plus small town America and it's small businesses. But unfortunately they are sometimes a necessary evil in times of economic downturn and you are trying to save a buck. I really do not care if the products are U.S. made or not because products in this country not being U.S. made is a fact of life. For you to single out Wal-marts' products because of that is ridiculous because for every product you do from them I am sure you are buying other things from other places that you probably are or aren't aware that are not U.S. made... for instance my suits that i wear to work... one is made in Vietnam and the others from other places... and i bought them in Macy's, JC Penney etc...
quote:i know you have Chinese friends, i don't hate Chinese people, but their country is an environmental nightmare, and it's only getting worse... the Govt is subsidizing gasoline over there to increase consumption... they had to shut down a whole bunch of factories just so athletes can breathe of the games...
I agree with you, never said I didn't. What i see China right now is equivalent to our own nations' history during the Industrial Revolution. As we learned to be more environmental over time since that age so will China. Right now they do not realize it nor care but they will in time.
quote:as for Clintons policies? i have no idea why you want to change my opinion about the Clintons.. it's history..
Not trying to change your opinion of them, was just curious to know if there was any policy or law they originated that you do like from them. I hate the GOP but I can admit that there is at least 1 policy/law I can like from them. Could you do the same?
For example, I hated Nixon with a passion but I can admit some things he did i liked like his "detente" policy towards the Soviet Union, school integration policy in the South, and his trying to pass Universal Healthcare and Universal Minimum income etc.
quote:if Hillary had gotten the nomination? the suicide rate would have tripled nationwide from everybody having to listen to her strident and shrill ranting speeches
You would of puckered up and liked it mister, afterall you are ex-military lol be a man!!
quote:i don't like 'em.. it's OK with me if you do... that's politics.
Fair enough but like I said I was not trying to change your opinion of them was just curious of what policies/laws you did like from them.
quote:"glabalisation" is not was not inevitable..
Globalization would of always been inevitable whether people like to admit it or not.
quote:as a matter o' fact? if energy prices stay relatively high? globalisation is not going to be as much of a problem... slow and steady progress towards globlisation is better management IMO... less displacement of workers
I never thought it was/is a problem... if the U.S. did not globalize we would of had more problems then we do now... anything that is tried in life will have problems but you learn from it and modify it to perfect it... people of all kinds ***** too much about this... if you are a baseball player but your fielding is not as good as your batting... then you modify and practice your fielding till it's right and better... simple as that...
quote:the only reason the Chinese labor is cheaper is because their economy is still developing... it's not because they are better workers, it's because they don't have as high demand for pay.. the US worker is hurting, and it's gonna get worse, i care about them, and i am not "one of them" i am self-employed..
Like I said, China is in a period of time that we were that was called the Industrial Revolution. All things get worst before they get better. In time you will see wage increases in China as they try Capitalism more. That is inevitable. Its not a matter of IF but WHEN. And when that happens the playing field will level. It will probably take years of course like it did here during the "Revolution" but it will happen. It already is imo. Their quality of life is improving , be it slow, and with the exception of their environmental issues then in the past.
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i don't see as bright a future for China as you do...
i agree we have done some screwed up things to our environment here, but we didn't have billions of people... as a matter of act? we had only 200 million here in 1970 when the "environmental awakening" began..
and they are only 25 years into their industrial revolution...
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It only takes one person or leader in a country to make change... much like Gorbachev in Russia though that became somewhat of a disaster because they went into Capitalism too fast after like 70 years of Communism and were not ready for it...they should of gone gradually like China is... but anyways as for China one day one person will make the necessary changes in that country...
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Between their population controls and the death rate they are likely to see mounting over the next decade or so I'd say that revolution is gonna come around a lot quicker over there than it did here.
Push in one direction and folks will generally go where you want. Put pressure on two opposite sides and that is when folks start growling.
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