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osubucks30
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Edwards is the best bet for the Democrats in a national election. [Big Grin] I just wish he got a little more coverage.

http://www.johnedwards.com/media/video/grown-up/

http://www.johnedwards.com/media/video/what-happened/

Let Obama and Clinton clash. My hopes is that it will make people take a look at Edwards.

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The very last thing our country needs is a low-life, ambulance-chasing, trial lawyer for president! YUK! In fact, I think the next President should send all the ambulance-chasing trial lawyers to Cuba.
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And maybe they could take some narrow minded bigoted hate talking property managers along with them on that vacation.

They have some fantastic bass fishing there.

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...or better yet, send all the socialists to Cuba.
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Well, it is true that they have been doing a terrible job of it and probably need some outside advisors.

But, clearly, what they need more than anything is a property manager that knows absolutely everything and has that kind nasty hateful attitude that allows him to gets things done, because he is willing to insult everyone into accepting that he is always right.

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the role of trial lawyers was written into the constitution because the founding fathers believed that everybody deserves a shot at finding justice. they also believed that the government should have a limited role in that pursuit.


you spit on the constitution, why am i not surprised?


Amendment VII [Common Law Suits - Jury Trial (1791)]

In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


some day? you may need an "ambulance chaser" and i hope they make you pay alot for it.

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the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

re-reading that makes me seriously question the constitutionality of some of the recent tort reform proposals..

could it possbly be that the politicians pushing for it know it would be unconstitutional but push for it anyway knowing it's nothing more than lip service to whip up the masses? like gay marriage and other "hot button issues"?

is it really just [More Crap]

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you spit on the constitution, why am i not surprised?

I spit on all those low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers that attempt to legally extort money from anyone and everyone that they think will pay. As an example, I recently had a Section 8 tenant that had a son who was doing drugs. He was apparently hiding the drugs outside in the water meter hole. One day he forgot to replace the water meter cover and his mother claimed she fell in the hole). I got a letter from one of those low-life scumbag contingency lawyers from TV who wanted to sue ME! That's the kind of stupidity that raises prices for every American and decreases our ability to compete internationally.

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I spit on all those low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers that attempt to legally extort money from anyone and everyone that they think will pay.
LOL...prisoner of your own device. As evidenced by your posts, your belief system sustains those types of lawyers.

Tinkerbelle? Tinker, tailor? Soldier? Spy?

yikes, boy...step up to the plate and take a swing at an ethical life.

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LOL...prisoner of your own device. As evidenced by your posts, your belief system sustains those types of lawyers.

Tinkerbelle? Tinker, tailor? Soldier? Spy?

yikes, boy...step up to the plate and take a swing at an ethical life.


If that made sense to anyone, I'd like to know who. FYI, I do not support any of those low-life contingency lawyers. We aggressively fight all lawsuits and NEVER settle.

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LOL...

it makes sense to me. you put a bullseye for the bloodsuckers on yourself. get out of the slumlord biz.

it's eating you up man.

learn a skill and make something. sweat, get bloody, blistered fingers. it's good for your soul.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
LOL...prisoner of your own device. As evidenced by your posts, your belief system sustains those types of lawyers.

Tinkerbelle? Tinker, tailor? Soldier? Spy?

yikes, boy...step up to the plate and take a swing at an ethical life.


If that made sense to anyone, I'd like to know who. FYI, I do not support any of those low-life contingency lawyers. We aggressively fight all lawsuits and NEVER settle.

lol, it makes sense to anyone who reasons.

You think you reason, but mostly you rationalize.

If you die in the next ten minutes? What's been your gift to the world?

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL...

it makes sense to me. you put a bullseye for the bloodsuckers on yourself. get out of the slumlord biz.

it's eating you up man.

learn a skill and make something. sweat, get bloody, blistered fingers. it's good for your soul.

boo-yah...

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Tex,

I am not in the slumlord business. I provide clean, affordable housing for my tenants and many local government officials have said that we provide some of the best housing in our city.

It is not eating me up, quite the contrary. I enjoy my business. Low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers are a bane on our entire society and are, in effect, an unwanted tax on everyone. Their damage is certainly not limited to my business. All successful businesses deal with these swine including businesses that involve 'making something and getting bloody'.

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so you hire a lawyer to defend yourself right? but he/she's not a Low-life, scumbag contingency lawyer?

you have them on retainer? so they are a constant parasite? [BadOne]

kinda like tapeworms? [Eek!]

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quote:
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Tex,

I am not in the slumlord business. I provide clean, affordable housing for my tenants and many local government officials have said that we provide some of the best housing in our city.

It is not eating me up, quite the contrary. I enjoy my business. Low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers are a bane on our entire society and are, in effect, an unwanted tax on everyone. Their damage is certainly not limited to my business. All successful businesses deal with these swine including businesses that involve 'making something and getting bloody'.

Dang! Can you read?

You're responding more to Glassy-Eyed than to me...

lol, wake up! post better

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glassman,

I would obviously prefer not to need to deal with any lawyers. Unfortunately, that is not possible in our world with all the predators out there. My lawyer is not a low-life, scumbag contingency lawyer. She gets paid by the hour and represents my interests. She is not a parasite and has no reason to be ashamed of her job (unlike the ambulance chasing contingency lawyers).

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OK, so you don't think all lawyers are low-lifes.

i can accept that. but there's low-lifes in every profession except politics. the life there is so low that there's only on level therefore we can't distinguish between high and low. [Wink]

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maybe you should have welded the water meter cover shut?

the water bills would be cheaper too [Roll Eyes]

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Look, regardless of how you may feel about Propertymanager, he has a very valid point. This country is so full of frivolous lawsuits that it's crippling our entire legal system. Somehow some common sense needs to be injected into our system so lawsuits are no longer won on a legal loophole or technicality. These slip and fall lawyers that advertise on late night TV should somehow be put out of business. How? I have no idea but right is right and wrong is wrong and that's what our legal system needs to recognize instead of trying to make a quick buck for every moron that falls off of the third step of a ladder or falls down because he claims to have tripped over a twig on someones driveway.
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Up, nobody is defending frivolous lawsuits, as far I can see. Those scammers? I'd just as soon put 'em down like a bad dog. Take 'em out behind the barn, as far I care...

I know that's not politically correct.

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quote:
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you spit on the constitution, why am i not surprised?

I spit on all those low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers that attempt to legally extort money from anyone and everyone that they think will pay. As an example, I recently had a Section 8 tenant that had a son who was doing drugs. He was apparently hiding the drugs outside in the water meter hole. One day he forgot to replace the water meter cover and his mother claimed she fell in the hole). I got a letter from one of those low-life scumbag contingency lawyers from TV who wanted to sue ME! That's the kind of stupidity that raises prices for every American and decreases our ability to compete internationally.

To be quite honest, I suspect that you "created" those "facts".

Exactly how do you know the the son was doing drugs, and, as you describe it, "apparently hiding the drugs outside in the water meter hole", and that it was him that left the cover off? (Whoever left it off, it is you as the property manager that carries the responsibility of seeing that it is replaced and cannot harm anyone.)

I think you made up those details in order to make this particular tale from your incessant litany of insulting attacks on whomever forgets to kiss the ground at you feet and has committed the socially inappropriate sin of not being rich sound like the bad guy and let yourself off the hook.

Your hatred and bias is so pronounced that you need to provide verifiable proof that the details of your slanderous diatribes are even possibly true, if you expect your whining to be cared about. Even then, you have so over done it, time and again, I can't imagine anyone will grant you any leeway.

It sounds to me like you failed to recognize or take heed of a danger to the public or you simply didn't care that it was there.....or both....and want the rest of the world to give you a free ride.

Whether or not you like it or agree with it, the position of "property manager" carries with it a responsibility for any possible danger and damages from dangers that you neglected to eliminate if it was possible to eliminate them. It is not a question of whether or not you knew about it because you are awarded the responsibility of making yourself knowledgeable, where danger to others is possible. (It's like shooting a gun into the air and claiming you didn't intend to or realize it could kill that baby two miles away.....it is your responsibility to know and to see that you do not allow the possibility and it is you that is guilty if it does do harm.)

For all your insulting and calling people "stupid", if you can't recognize the assumed responsibilities any better than you report here, I think that name you lay about for others is wrongly placed.

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Kucinich Abandons White House Bid
Democrat Dennis Kucinich abandoned his presidential bid Friday to focus on a tough race for re-election to Congress. Full Story >>

Assurance continues for another republican election.
Everytime I turn on the news I see the democratic party. The media is SO SURE the democrates deserve to reside they give onle a fraction of air time to every 5 minutes of democratic envision.

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quote:
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Kucinich Abandons White House Bid
Democrat Dennis Kucinich abandoned his presidential bid Friday to focus on a tough race for re-election to Congress. Full Story >>

Assurance continues for another republican election.
Everytime I turn on the news I see the democratic party. The media is SO SURE the democrates deserve to reside they give onle a fraction of air time to every 5 minutes of democratic envision.

lol, maybe you wanna clarify...

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bdgee,

Exactly how do you know the the son was doing drugs, and, as you describe it, "apparently hiding the drugs outside in the water meter hole",

I don't KNOW for a fact, that's why I said "apparently" (I'm still recommending that you pursue that GED). However, the neighors told me that the kid was doing drugs and I was suspicious of him. Water meter covers don't remove themselves and I doubt that some stranger just happened to remove the water meter cover as he was strolling by.

Whoever left it off, it is you as the property manager that carries the responsibility of seeing that it is replaced and cannot harm anyone.

That is the dumbest comment I've ever heard (no big surprise), but it was exactly the theory of the low-life, scumbag contingency lawyer. So, I guess I should have stood by the water meter cover 24 hours per day to ensure that the drug addict son didn't remove it! RIDICULOUS! I wonder how high rents would have to be if every landlord had to stand by every water meter cover to make sure that someone doesn't remove them?

This is where the wacko left shows how nutty they really are. Can you on the left accept reponsibility for ANY of your actions? (no) Are you on the wacko left always a victim? (yes) It is NOT my responsibility if some drug addict removes a water meter cover and his mother falls in. I do not have a duty (legal or moral) to watch the water meter 24 hours per day, once a day, once a week, or even once a month. In fact, that would be absolutely illegal, because tenants have a legal right to "quiet enjoyment" of their property. The bottom line is that you don't know what you're talking about (as usual). The mother is a victim of her own poor parenting skills and her son's absolute stupidity.

And the low-life, scumbag contingency lawyers are nothing more than predators, attempting to legally extort money from anyone that they think will pay. Why is the country in trouble - this is one big reason!

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You are the one that is shy on legal realities.

You are simply too ignorant, crude, and self centered to be real. Are you a made up facade, since no one could be that uneducated? If so, you need to be remade into a human being.

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hey prop man, i dunno about your water meters? but i have the mini version of a man hole cover on mine, and the water meter readers leave it in a dangerous position more than half the time.

what day was your meter read? you may be able to redirect the culpability on this one. also?

water meters, even tho you own the property, are often on property not truly within your control or in some sort of easement area.. check on that too..


as for hiding his most prized treasures outside where anybody might steal them? that sounds a little bogus to me to...

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Glassman,

I don't know what a mini version of the man hole cover is, but we don't have a choice here. The man hole cover belongs to the city water department. The meter was read a few days previous to this incident and it is possible that the meter readers left it off. However, I have never seen another meter cover that was left off by the water department and I don't know another landlord that has seen one left off.

I do have experience with tenants getting into the water meters for a variety of reasons. They get into the meters to turn the water back on after having their water turned off for non-payment. They also hide stuff in the meters so that the police won't find them during a drug bust of the house.

as for hiding his most prized treasures outside where anybody might steal them? that sounds a little bogus to me to...

That's because you're an honest, law abiding citizen. Criminals are almost universally STUPID! They are not intelligent. They don't think things through. They do stuff that is just plain stupid.

When you're in the rental business, you see stupidity like this every day. All this stupidity was a SHOCK when I first got into the business, but now it's just part of the reality of the business.

We have a severe copper theft problem in our area. One idiot was killed when he attempted to steal copper wire from a live electrical service. I recently had a vacant rental that some moron tried to break into the electric meter while it was live. He didn't succeed, but I would have paid money to see that show!

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You are the one that is shy on legal realities.

So, just to be clear, you're saying that the landlord should be at the rental property 24/7 to ensure that the tenants don't remove the water meter cover and then fall in? THAT'S CRAZY!

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PM, my dad owned 7 rental houses at one time even tho he had law degree and worked a full time civil service job.(and was president of the county young republicans) we also rarely hired contractors to do any of the work on the rentals after he GC'ed the building project or on tennant turnover.
i've also worked general maintenance on military bases both in housing and the "business side"... i've seen stuff that curled my toes.

like i said? it sounds an awful lot like you are suffering in dealing with the chit. esp since you have section 8's. it's kind of like being a vice cop. even doing the right thing extracts a heavy personal toll.
we always tried to find people that were interested in options to buy. the property always "took better care of itself"

i refuse to become a landlord because i'd seen most of it before i got outa highshool.
locks on bedroom doors turned around so the kids would be locked in. closets used as toilets, plumbing and wiring ripped out, etc etc etc.

on the good side? when i was like 13 we had some tennants leave a about 200 playboys and even a few of the reallly good ones like club and oui behind.

i managed to hide most of those in the trundle seat in the very back of our country squire station wagon while my dad was busy replacing the water heater in the basement [Big Grin] that made me pretty popular for awhile...

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"So, just to be clear, you're saying that the landlord should be at the rental property 24/7 to ensure that the tenants don't remove the water meter cover and then fall in? THAT'S CRAZY!"

Don't be absurd and do desist in declaring what I say, since you have repeatedly proved you have not got the moral character or the intellect to even come close to imagining how or what I think.

You have no idea that the tenants left that cover off and nothing but your intense hatred and bias that tells you the son was into drugs. Perhaps you are truthful in reporting that someone else told you the son hid drugs there, but, first of all, that is simply hearsay, and second, I am certain that anyone that would willingly talk of another to anyone so bigoted as you would be as bigoted and prone to make up tales claiming guilt of others as you are, so that "testimomy" is unreliable too. (Too, it is 100% possible that the son was into drugs, was hiding them there, and someone else left the cover off, maybe even some rich guy that did it as a prank, maybe some workman that the tenants had to call for repairs that you refused to tend to, because you were more interested in blaming them and insulting them than accepting responsibility, or maybe some other person did it accidentally.)

Why don't you just admit, you are not doing the job of maintaining a safe property?

Whatever the case, no one, whatever their circumstances, whatever their actual deeds or lack thereof, deserves the pure hatred and vile you seem unable to not produce whenever you speak of anything or anyone. Just the mere act of seeing without actually delving into comnsideration of the vulgarities you prefess and insist on makes a rational civilized person feel the need for a bath to cleanse him or herself from the nastiness.

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Too, it is 100% possible that the son was into drugs, was hiding them there, and someone else left the cover off, maybe even some rich guy that did it as a prank

bdgee,

Yeah, I'm sure that was it. There must have been a rash of rich guys driving into low income neighborhoods to pull pranks on low income tenants. Part of the vast right wing conspiracy I'm sure.

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"Part of the vast right wing conspiracy I'm sure."

In a sense, yes.

The right wing conspiracy is actually a product of the bigotry and unfairness you and yours have used to replace that used to be supplied by the Klan and other clutches of hate and irrational bias.

How is your robe and hood? Cleaned and ready for a big ceremonial lynching? We have it from one of our fellows that there is a scum-bag wacko up in your neck of the woods that was so doped out, when he left his stash in the water meter closet, he forgot to replace the cover, causing a poor woman to fall and hurt herself and one of our good worthy brothers to be forced to deal with that unpleasantry. Surely this MUST be dealt with and appropriate punishment dealt to the scum-bag, so that all others of his kind will understand the penalty for failing to act according to the standards of decorum an behavior we declare.

Hope you can make it to neck-tie ceremony....a good time will be had by all right thinking men!

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You seem to be losing touch with reality. Seriously.
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Just trying to fit into the world as you and your kind describe it.
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