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cottonjim
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http://www.funny-video-stuff.com/viewmovie.php?ad_key=SUBMHLGDXMXB&tracking_id=8 86918&id=598

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Funny stuff......this is one of the reasons why the dow is in record territory....as the middle class get abolished

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wanna hear something even "funnier"?

Outsourcing Works, So India Is Exporting Jobs
By ANAND GIRIDHARADAS
Published: September 25, 2007

MYSORE, India — Thousands of Indians report to Infosys Technologies’ campus here to learn the finer points of programming. Lately, though, packs of foreigners have been roaming the manicured lawns, too.

Many of them are recent American college graduates, and some have even turned down job offers from coveted employers like Google. Instead, they accepted a novel assignment from Infosys, the Indian technology giant: fly here for six months of training, then return home to work in the company’s American back offices.

India is outsourcing outsourcing.

One of the constants of the global economy has been companies moving their tasks — and jobs — to India. But rising wages and a stronger currency here, demands for workers who speak languages other than English, and competition from countries looking to emulate India’s success as a back office — including China, Morocco and Mexico — are challenging that model.

In May, Tata Consultancy Service, Infosys’s Indian rival, announced a new back office in Guadalajara, Mexico; Tata already has 5,000 workers in Brazil, Chile and Uruguay. Cognizant Technology Solutions, with most of its operations in India, has now opened back offices in Phoenix and Shanghai.

Wipro, another Indian technology services company, has outsourcing offices in Canada, China, Portugal, Romania and Saudi Arabia, among other locations.

And last month, Wipro said it was opening a software development center in Atlanta that would hire 500 programmers in three years.

In a poetic reflection of outsourcing’s new face, Wipro’s chairman, Azim Premji, told Wall Street analysts this year that he was considering hubs in Idaho and Virginia, in addition to Georgia, to take advantage of American “states which are less developed.” (India’s per capita income is less than $1,000 a year.)

For its part, Infosys is building a whole archipelago of back offices — in Mexico, the Czech Republic, Thailand and China, as well as low-cost regions of the United States.

The company seeks to become a global matchmaker for outsourcing: any time a company wants work done somewhere else, even just down the street, Infosys wants to get the call.

It is a peculiar ambition for a company that symbolizes the flow of tasks from the West to India.

Most of Infosys’s 75,000 employees are Indians, in India. They account for most of the company’s $3.1 billion in sales in the year that ended March 31, from work for clients like Bank of America and Goldman Sachs.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/25/business/worldbusiness/25outsource.html?em&ex= 1190865600&en=03ef2d6ec22ea827&ei=5087%0A

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Bad move by these guys to tap America.

If they prove it works it won't take long for American company competition to crop up.

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i'm wondering why pay the middleman..

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Some of these outsourced jobs are trickling back to the US. One of the reasons for these jobs coming back to the US is that these outsourced jobs are not meeting the expectations of US companies. There seems to be some standard jokes at a few of the companies i am familiar with about the way outsourcing is being handled.

If these foreign companies do not come up with a better way to handle many of these outsourced jobs and keep the price real cheap, then they will not hold control of outsourcing of jobs within the US.

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In the USA, I work in IT - consult - most IT jobs are Indain and we americans cant understand them all...though very competitive because of desperate want to survive...

and, americans cant find IT jobs cause usa firms want tp pay less wages and unwilling to train to advance the american worker...american companies with support of our govt advance the indian worker while the americans gewt squueezed out...

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i dont get it..more firms should train and advance the american worker - indian economy is booming and 1/2 are working here....and half of mexico...geez...usa is a bad natiopn yetr the werld comes here
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with all of america it is a great nation fer no other land attracts so many folks
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India?

China?

Indonesia?

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welcome back,dude.....missed ya!

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Not back....yet.....just taking a breather from infinite progressions and hyperspace transformations.

Yaw'll hold down the fort.

(Hey, anybody here into home made airplanes?)

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Not back....yet.....just taking a breather from infinite progressions and hyperspace transformations.

Yaw'll hold down the fort.

(Hey, anybody here into home made airplanes?)

Depends, you mean models, Experimental's, or home built Ultra Light

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Ultralignt, for now, most specifically, Skypups.
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I partially built a l'il Buzzard, sold before completion. Skypups are definatly a more economical way to go, but they do leave a little more room for human error when building I feel.

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I'm just beginning to check out feasibility. One of the first items on that list is a place from which one could fly it after it is built. Without that, there is no reason to invest the money or the time and, so far, I haven't been able to locate a place.

In the mean time, I've been looking into reasonable sorts to build. Except for the lack of ailerons and the limited gross weight (I'm over 6 foot and with the weight of the plane and gas would easilly be over the 400 pound gross), I keep coming back to the Skypup, however, I am not fully decided and could easily be persuaded to go another route. I do want to stay away from metal construction, though.

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Hello,

The Munchkin Man wants to get something off his chest.

The Munchkin Man is mad at all this outsourcing that has been going on over to India.

It is beginning to affect the Munchkin Man's livlihood.

The Munchkin Man is one of the premier and most highly skilled mathematics textbook editors and proofreaders in the world today.

If the Munchkin Man is not the best, then the Munchkin Man is certainly one of the very best.

According to an industry insider the Munchkin Man spoke to last week, a lot of textbook publishing companies are now beginning to outsource much of the editorial proofreading of their mathematics books to India.

This makes the Munchkin Man very upset.

This explains why the Munchkin Man has not been receiving any projects lately.

It's enough to make the Munchkin Man cry.

In fact, the Munchkin Man already has.

The Munchkin Man may have to go live in the poorhouse.

What does India know about mathematics that the Munchkin Man doesn't already know anyway?

Munchkin Man

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quote:
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What does India know about mathematics that the Munchkin Man doesn't already know anyway?

Munchkin Man

they know how to live on 5$ a week Munchie, and i suggest you write letters to your elected representatives but try to include facts and figures that make simple sense cuz the average IQ on capitol hill seems to me to be about 99...

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
I'm just beginning to check out feasibility. One of the first items on that list is a place from which one could fly it after it is built. Without that, there is no reason to invest the money or the time and, so far, I haven't been able to locate a place.

In the mean time, I've been looking into reasonable sorts to build. Except for the lack of ailerons and the limited gross weight (I'm over 6 foot and with the weight of the plane and gas would easilly be over the 400 pound gross), I keep coming back to the Skypup, however, I am not fully decided and could easily be persuaded to go another route. I do want to stay away from metal construction, though.

The skypup will easily fit your needs, very light weight construction. I was a pilot for 8 years but due to an unfortunate accident (on the ground) I lost my medical, no medical, no license. Building an ultralight was a logical step because you don't need either, and I loved flying. I had about 17K into the Buzzard and a friend of mine got killed in his so the wife was a little nervous, I got an offer to buy it for a little profit, and took it.

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Like they say...ya can't go broke taking a profit.

I sold my plane some years back because keeping it parked was costing more than flying it. I haven't got a current official medical, but I have recently passed physicals way more extensive with flying colors, so I'm still able to fly should I wish.

If I get into ultralights, I'll build so I can keep it on a trailer in the back yard. And I have no intention in putting much money into one. My vision is to build out of scrap and junk.

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I was P.O.d when I lost the Med. I was grounded after my accident and had to go in for a current and they decided that spacial dis-orientation was to much of a concern so they wouldn't give me the Medical card.
The FAA, in my opinion, is ridiculous that way. I can get in a car and drive in bust traffic and if something happens to me I can kill many other motorists and pedestrians. But, I can't fly a plane, even by myself, that if I were to crash it would most likely be into a corn field and only hurt myself.. I don't get it.
I went round and round with them jokers for 8 months about it and I finaly got sick of it and stopped fighting. Sucks too, I am in an aviation related industry and used the plane to visit customers and reps. Oh well, enough *****ing for one day.

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OK, here's how good outsourcing and "free trade" have been for the US:

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note how bad it gets after the NAFTA agreementwas signed by Bush SR in '92,..... and signed into law by Bill Clinton in '93...

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