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Either provide evidence that is credible, or shut the f-ck up!

Ah you've finally shown that your vile attacks are nothing but that of an ignorant DNC operative.
You're fuller o' s-it than a Christmas turkey, and, in your case, way way over done.
This is the kind of language you choose to use, I was under the impression you had such a vast vocabulary.
I guess the left wing indoctrination you recieved in all your years at university has left you brain dead and unable to do nothing but utter senseless DNC retoric.

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Originally posted by The Bigfoot:
Alright,

Was talking with Mrs. Foot about this one last night.

I rarely do so with this stuff cuz Mrs. Foot is really booksmart Anthropologically speaking and I usually just end up getting left in the dust during her explanations.

I gleaned out that there are no super volcanoes around today that could do much more than cool the earth for a couple years. In 15,000 years maybe but not right now.

She also says a good chunk of our knowledge about human evolution is due to volcanism down in Southern Africa.

Then I had to pull back and shake out my ears.

BF

ask her why she doesn't consider Yellowstone a super-volcano...

http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/supervolcano/supervolcano.html

maybe people don't want to know? [Wink]

PS, re-read that article, 74,000 years in geo-time is like less time than it took me to write this up....

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You are full of it, overdone, and tasteless.

You barge in here uninvited, on a mission of hate, insulting and lying and threatening, and can't verify any one of your childish assertion, just presenting more name calling and insults, then accuse others of doing what you do.

Get real.

Go somewhere and try to learn to act grown up.

OR GO AWAY!

We're trying to have an intellectual discussion here, if you have any notion what that might be.

You provide nothing but hate and an example of how to be childish.

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
You are full of it, overdone, and tasteless.

You barge in here uninvited, on a mission of hate, insulting and lying and threatening, and can't verify any one of your childish assertion, just presenting offering more name calling and insults, then accuse others of doing what you do.

Get real.


Go somewhere and try to learn to act grown up.

OR GO AWAY!

You provide nothing but hate and an example of how to be childish.

Look in a mirror!

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neutral corners kids, and come out swingin'

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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
You are full of it, overdone, and tasteless.

You barge in here uninvited, on a mission of hate, insulting and lying and threatening, and can't verify any one of your childish assertion, just presenting more name calling and insults, then accuse others of doing what you do.

Get real.

Go somewhere and try to learn to act grown up.

OR GO AWAY!

We're trying to have an intellectual discussion here, if you have any notion what that might be.

You provide nothing but hate and an example of how to be childish.


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Actually Glass, I did ask her about that one.

We had seen a documentary about Yellowstone together last year.

She wasn't saying they couldn't happen but that there isn't enough seismic activity and instability to cause one to form within the next 15,000 years or so thereby making it a void excuse is regards to climate change. Furthered because such activity would cause cooling, not heating such as we are seeing now.

I know she is skeptical about the Yellowstone super volcano for other reasons too but not sure exactly what her reasons are.

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I've seen tv programs, but haven't studied Yellowstone geology enough to offer any uplifting (pun intended) info on the validity of those studies, one way or the other.

In some respects, it looks to me to be somewhat like predicting when the next huge asteroid will hit Earth. There simply isn't enough data.

That doesn't mean to therefore neglect concern or declare there is no possible danger!

If nothing else, it is a valuable intellectual pursuit and can only add to knowledge in general (always an addition to human endeavor).

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quote:
Originally posted by Lockman:
Geez poke a little fun at Al Gore and Bdgee gets his panties all in a bunch.

Relax and go read the next chapter in Al Franken's new book " How to be an Al Gore groupy."

It's a short book on how to attack anyone that doesn't bow down to Liberal - Socialist ideals.

Very Random aside here that has nothing to do with anything...

I always find it interesting how the term social is used. To use an example...

To proponents national health care could be a great boon to American Society.

To critics Social Medicine is big, and scary and smacks of anti-American sentiment.


Society is a good descriptor. Social or Socialism is bad, bad, bad.

My, how the community conscious can be poisoned against certain words/ideas.

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well BigF, i'm no expert but i did sleep with Vulcanologists daughter once [Big Grin] (OK it was twice, but i didn't do it till after i broke up with her best friend, i swear [Razz] )

anyway? my understanding is that (like earthquakes) the quieter they are? the more pressure they build up... i'm living on a miss. river fault line (the New Madrid) which is due for another big one (someday) it stays quiet for long periods and then pops offa big 'un...

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
neutral corners kids, and come out swingin'

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Glass, you mentioned you lived in the "New Madrid" fault zone. In your opinion, how prepared for earthquakes are the people and communities near you?

Most people seem to worry about California when they talk about the "Big One", but IMO, that isn't going to be where the "Big One" will happen.....

According to the USGS the last time The New Madrid Fault gave way, damage was reported as far east as Washinton DC....

The magnitude 8.0 that hit in 1811 reportedly rang church bells in Boston.
http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/prepare/factsheets/NewMadrid/

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Scientists estimate that the probability of a magnitude 6 to 7 earthquake occurring in this seismic zone within the next 50 years is higher than 90%. Such an earthquake could hit the Mississippi Valley at any time.
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the "area" is totally unprepared here...
i have food and the ability to store water quickly to last about a month (two if we go on rations) funny how people will drink nasty water when clorox is all you need to "fix" it huh?
the building codes are non-existent, and even for hurricanes we don't have any type of codes.. [Roll Eyes]

i carry 'quake insurance instead of flood insurance right now,

but,

based on the patterns of the '28 flood (LedZep, If it keeps on rainin' the levee's gonna break, and if the levee breaks we'll have no place to stay ) we have to have about five months of fairly heavy and steady rain to bust the levees, so if it rains heavy for six weeks (like it has been in west of here)? i'll be getting ready to hit the ask on flood insurance too..

the quake insurance is pretty cheap, but the deductible is 10% which is pretty bad...

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the quake history on New Madrid is scary:
The December 16th quake rang church bells in Pennsylvania and in South Carolina. The February 7th quake was said to have been felt strong enough to rattle windows in Montreal, Quebec, over a thousand miles away.

thats from 1811, 12.... three in row Dec Jan, Feb, all three were 8'somethings...

the Miss. River has been seen going backwards from the quakes on this fault...

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Pardon me Glass, but, you cant "hit the ask". you can only take and scoop the ask/offer. The bid is for hitting and smashing.

Me and my friend used to get yelled at by our mentor/sponsor for useing the very same term. It used to confuse the SHlT out of him.

Wow, I dont think I ever got to correct glass....Im gonna go tell my wife, then bang her!

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LOL....

i'll try to remember that...

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I think most would agree that humans at some point in the future will experience an "earth-shattering" catastrophe.

The question now becomes, what, if anything, are we going to do about it?

One of the greatest minds of our time has given it some thought.

quote:
"It is important for the human race to spread out into space for the survival of the species," Hawking said. "Life on Earth is at the ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or other dangers we have not yet thought of."
SOURCE:
Hawking says humans must go into space
'Predicts increased risk of disaster that will destroy our planet'
http://www.space.com/news/060613_ap_hawking_space.html

I am curious what you guys think might be some other actions we could take to protect ourselves from these kinds of dangers.

If we were able to sustain ourselves deep enough under ground, or maybe even under water, would leaving the Earth really be necessary?

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However far underground or under water, a sufficiently large asteroid would destroy all of us.

Too, there is, even underground, only a finite amount of space to house human society.

One of the disasters we keep ignoring is happening now and is over population.

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Colony on the moon is the next step for the space program. Colonize the moon and put a relocate a good chunk of NASA up there to see what they can create when gravity isn't such a factor.

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