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afghanistan isnt exactly oil rich its the area north of there that everybody is concerned about but they need a route to get it shipped, the choices were, Iran or Afghanistan. Iran is pretty much out because of sanctions so afghanistan was chosen. but UNOCAL execs. found the Taliban to be "troublsome" and said "we would need a friendly goverment in afghanistan" i'd also like to point out that now that we have installed a friendly govermnet in afghanistan oil pipe construction has commenced... wierd!!
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Yeah the Taliban was a little troublesome lol still are to a certain extent... The Bush's were/are in the oil business... any idea if their company(s) have profited directly or indirectly from Iraq and/or Afghan oil?
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quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli: Yeah the Taliban was a little troublesome lol still are to a certain extent... The Bush's were/are in the oil business... any idea if their company(s) have profited directly or indirectly from Iraq and/or Afghan oil?
any bush family companies or bush adminstration companies? i dont think and bush oil companies are profiting from afghan oil. it probably works more like, bush helps out friends (in oil and defense) and after his term is up there will be cushy positions on the board of directors for those companies, with huge stock options plans and such. I think a Bush oil company drilling for oil in iraq would be to obvious..
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Bush oil companies actually drilling or any other productive effort would be amazingly different. Every such claimed venture by dubya has been a stock scam......no drilling, not exploring, no equipment, no business other than selling stock and declaring bankruptcy.
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The only thing in Wiki about Bush Sr. and the oil business is this (which isn't much):
"After graduating from Yale, Bush went into the Texas oil exploration business. He was given a position with Dresser Industries, a subsidiary of Brown Brothers Harriman, where his father served on the board of directors for 22 years. His son, Neil Mallon Bush, is named after his employer at Dresser, Henry Neil Mallon, who was a close family friend dating back to Skull & Bones at Yale in 1918 along with Prescott. Zapata Corporation was created by Bush and the Liedtke brothers in 1953 as Zapata Oil. (Authors Webster Tarpley, Kevin Phillips, Daniel Yergin, and others suggest that Bush had ties to the Central Intelligence Agency at this time.)"
One thing is for sure, the Iraqi's aren't hurting for oil money like I have heard them claim in the past after the U.S. invastion if they can rent a apartment for $20,000 a month and $40 million for their embassy. No doubt the Bush family will benefit from doing business with them after Bush Jr. gets out of the Presidency.
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Yes, it's usually some tie-in to the Bush family fortunes you need to watch.
For example, all that crap dubya spouts about school kids needing to be tested with standardized exams periodically is made to sound like dubya cares about educating the kids. In truth, it is because. world wide, the largest holders of companies and stocks in companies that commercially provide standardized test is the Bush family. The Bush family virtually controls the industry.
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With some of these government positions, if there is a conflict of interest rule it seems all they have to do is put the questionable business in a trust while they are in office, and that makes it okay. Of course with most of these government jobs there does not seem to be any such creature as a conflict of interest.
A few years back we had a person who was the US Secretary of Veterans Affairs, who had a very large business that was, and is still doing many of the ima (independent medical exam) exams for the VA. These exams are usually required prior to getting VA Disability Compensation. I always thought this to be very interesting, so did many others.
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it runs on and on.. i "heard" that president johnson owned stock in the helicopter company that supplied the helicopters in vietnam. maybe some of you old timers can verify.. or correct me.
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haha. ok i'll rephrase it .. wiser memebers of our board.
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I have heard rumors about the helicopters and TWA, but have never seen an official document that stated that President Johnson or his wife had interest in either, although i never looked very hard for this information. Many of these individuals invest in a round about way making it harder to track.
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Johnson and his wife were huge land holders (which each inherited, she held huge parts of Alabama and East Texas an he had land in the Texas hill country) and owned radio and tv stations (bought back in the 40s and 50s before they were but losses and he gained politicaal influence over that industry), but I think any claim that they ever invested in any form of arms industry is more than questionable. Indeed, I suspect it is a willful an intentional lie.
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haha .. take a look at some background on these jerks, look at how many employees are former defense secretaries, defense policy board members, presidents, petroleum managers.. blah blah.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechtel
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An Iraqi MP preferred to remain anonymous told the newspaper that highly confidential negotiations took place by representatives from American oil companies, offering $5 million to each MP who votes in favor of the Oil and Gas law.
Ladysweetie, How accurate is this source? Answers.com says that Akhbar Al Khaleej is a Bahraini daily with a Left wing/Arab nationalist slant. It’s editor in chief is Anwar Abdulrahman and is the sister paper of the English language, Gulf Daily News.
The paper is known to be close to Bahrain’s main leftist opposition party, National Democratic Action and its columnists include some of the country’s most prominent leftists such as Sameera Rajab and Mahmood Al Gassab, who is a leading member of the Jami’at al-Tajammu’ al-Qawmi al-Dimuqrat, one of the four opposition societies to the government.
With its Arab nationalist stance, the newspaper has led condemnation of the United States’ invasion of Iraq, and has been particularly critical those Iraqis who have cooperated with the American backed political order: Samira Rajab in 2005 dismissed Iraqi Shia cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani as an ‘American general’. This resulted in death threats towards Ms Rajab from Shia Islamists – who hold the Iraqi cleric in high regard – and brought to the surface political fissures in the alliance of Shia Islamists and ex-Marxists that had come together to oppose the 2002 Constitution.
Not that I am saying it isn't possible. I'd just like to see a little more evidence first.
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