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We preach freedom and democracy to the world yet we have sh*t like this:
Court Rules Against 'Bong Hits 4 Jesus' Case By MARK SHERMAN, AP Posted: 2007-06-25 11:34:01 WASHINGTON (June 25) - The Supreme Court tightened limits on student speech Monday, ruling against a high school student and his 14-foot-long "Bong Hits 4 Jesus" banner.
Schools may prohibit student expression that can be interpreted as advocating drug use, Chief Justice John Roberts wrote for the court in a 5-4 ruling.
Joseph Frederick unfurled his homemade sign on a winter morning in 2002, as the Olympic torch made its way through Juneau, Alaska, en route to the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City.
Frederick said the banner was a nonsensical message that he first saw on a snowboard. He intended the banner to proclaim his right to say anything at all.
His principal, Deborah Morse, said the phrase was a pro-drug message that had no place at a school-sanctioned event. Frederick denied that he was advocating for drug use.
"The message on Frederick's banner is cryptic," Roberts said. "But Principal Morse thought the banner would be interpreted by those viewing it as promoting illegal drug use, and that interpretation is plainly a reasonable one."
Morse suspended the student, prompting a federal civil rights lawsuit .
Students in public schools don't have the same rights as adults, but neither do they leave their constitutional protections at the schoolhouse gate, as the court said in a landmark speech-rights ruling from Vietnam era.
The court has limited what students can do in subsequent cases, saying they may not be disruptive or lewd or interfere with a school's basic educational mission.
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John Roberts is an ultra conservative fascist that WAS slipped onto the court through A smoke screen of Iraq and Constant Constitutional violations by the Administration, backed absolutely by the republicans in congress and such disgusting groups as the Swift Boaters and Fox News.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: John Roberts is an ultra conservative fascist that WAS slipped onto the court through A smoke screen of Iraq and Constant Constitutional violations by the Administration, backed absolutely by the republicans in congress and such disgusting groups as the Swift Boaters and Fox News.
John Roberts is a constitutional scholar, who earned his way onto the highest court in the land, through a legitimate confirmation process, led by the political genius of President George W. Bush, and backed by loyal Republicans in Congress and such great American and patriotic groups as the Swift Boaters and Fox News.
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John Roberts is a fascist jerk that has no respect for the Constitution and a patsy of the fascist regime that runs the republican party.
That such an anti-American bigot could obtain a seat on the Supreme Court demonstrates how dangerous these times are.
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the worst part is that Roberts has a lifetime appointment to our highest court, and there's not much we can do about it. We will pay the price for electing Bush for a long time.
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No, that is just an excuse and blame game played by the fascist extreme that controls the RNC.
No no one who voted against Roberts was to be allowed peace through the remainder of the dubya dictatorship and many would face political destruction by RNC funded political groups, of the Watergate kind, where no crime existed ever, but there was total ruin of almost everyone that said that to be the case.
Anyway, all the democrats together did not have the votes to stop it and, in the odd case they had managed to do so, would have faced another dubya subversion of the Constution with a "emergency" appointment while Congress was not in session i.e., the vote was of no consequence. This has stopped being a republic.
The Decider is a dictator and the republican party, constituted as it now is, has given us that dictator..
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there are borderline democrats & republicans that vote for each others agenda all the time... so you saying that some democrats voted this guy in is no surprise... you make it sound like if when Congress votes that all Democrats vote pro democrat issues and all Republicans vote pro republican issues lol .... get real.. sometimes they have mixed views on issues and vote the opposite....
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quote:Frederick said the banner was a nonsensical message that he first saw on a snowboard. He intended the banner to proclaim his right to say anything at all.
His principal, Deborah Morse, said the phrase was a pro-drug message that had no place at a school-sanctioned event. Frederick denied that he was advocating for drug use.
"The message on Frederick's banner is cryptic," Roberts said. "But Principal Morse thought the banner would be interpreted by those viewing it as promoting illegal drug use, and that interpretation is plainly a reasonable one."
I think Joseph Frederick took to many Bong Hits 4 Jesus before he hatched his little plan to exercise his freedom of speech and "stick it to the man, man".
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Is something sounding very simular here and do we have the right to end it now like they did in 1776?
Medium | Larger | Largest IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776 The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
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what the hell is your point by quoting the Declaration of Independence in two political threads? We all know the DOI. Just tell us what is on your mind in regards to this issue. Are you going to quote this in every political thread?.
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Hell, quote it....over and over......a whole heap of the people that like to make claims they say are based on it have never bothered to read it. Give them the chance. The Constitution too.....
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quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli: what the hell is your point by quoting the Declaration of Independence in two political threads? We all know the DOI. Just tell us what is on your mind in regards to this issue. Are you going to quote this in every political thread?.
wahssamatter Mach making you nervous?
maybe it's time for a third party to be formed? i am seeing some people out there with the $$$ to make it happen, and happen FAST.
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quote:Originally posted by Machiavelli: what the hell is your point by quoting the Declaration of Independence in two political threads? We all know the DOI. Just tell us what is on your mind in regards to this issue. Are you going to quote this in every political thread?.
wahssamatter Mach making you nervous?
maybe it's time for a third party to be formed? i am seeing some people out there with the $$$ to make it happen, and happen FAST.
Nope.. not nervous at all... i believe in almost everything in the DOI but kind of nerves me when someone quotes it and thats all.. no comment about it... he quoted it and??? Don't you think he should at least say what his purpose is for quoting it instead of just quoting it in all threads with no comment...
As for a third party... We kind of had that at one point with the Liberal Party that was separate from the Dem's. Yeah there should be one again that is powerful enough to get their candidates voted in but it won't happen anytime soon. Americans are too used to voting Rep or Dem like trained puppies. To accept a 3rd party would take years though one candidate could get voted in for now. Right now would be a perfect time for one to run with both sides having no strong candidate. He'll I would probably vote for Bloomberg. He hasn't been bad for NYC though there were some issues I didn't agree with him.
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Bloomberg & Nagel could pull it off IMO..... i think the DOI should make people nervous... especially all these jerks that have been running around trying to create a revisionist history about how the founding fathers thought ...
the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God hmmmm.... sometimes makes me think of the Green Man, and not some white dude with a long silver beard...
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