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You aren't capable of handling intelligent sayings, property manager, as you have repeatedly proved with such insults and idiocy as that. I guess you prefer the part of the swine.
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No one excels in being insulting more than you, propertyguy. It's all you do.
Quite the contrary. I have posted facts and statistics in many of my posts. And I don't call YOU names. In addition, I have had many calm and reasoned exchanges with Glassman and others, even though we certainly don't agree politically. I find it very telling that you are the only one on this forum that can't communicate without personally attacking other posters.
You, on the other hand have posted 8,518 posts that are primarily filled with nonsense and 3rd grade insults and gibberish. Anyone that doesn't agree with you is treated to personal insults and bullying. You clearly are not able to carry on an intelligent conversation. You are so filled with hate for the bush administration that you can't act rationally. I don't know what you're going to do after the election when President Bush is no longer in office. I guess you can still hate him, but that's gotta get old. Worse yet, what will you do if Hillary or another socialist is elected? Who will you hate then?
I'm not blaming you. All this childish behavior is all you have left when you don't have the facts on your side. I'm sure that you're a VICTIM (popular with leftists) and you feel that excuses your behavior.
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Those aren't facts, they are the hateful bigotry of a narrow with and limited ability or willingness to either learn or investigate to locate truth.
If you could learn to stop the incessant hate and insulting that serves as what you clearly believe is thought, maybe you can develop the ability to carry on a reasoned exchanges.
'Til then, you have no ability to be other than a simply minded intellectual AND emotionally immature trouble making jerk.
However, there is no indication you want to be reasonable or truthful or even considered to be. You clearly prefer being a childish jerk.
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No, unlike bdgee, I am NOT a victim. I am responsible for my own actions and decisions. I also refuse to stoop to his level and use childish name calling and bullying when I don't agree with someone. I will try to make well-thought out arguments for my opinions, using well-documented facts when possible.
For bdgee to call government tax data "incessant hate and insulting" or "hateful bigotry" is simply nonsense.
If he was right, he would be able to make intelligent arguments based on available facts like the rest of us, instead of all the incessant nonsense.
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my analogy of you being the center of the universe is simply one way to describe your stated views that you have no responsibility to look out for your fellow human...
you said earlier that taxing wealth is stupid. you seemed to fail to see my point that the accumulation of wealth is not really about having wealth for wealth's sake, it represents the ability to make decisions about how the future will be experienced by everybody.
as a glass artist? i can make the most complicated and technically difficult "products" in my craft, but they are nothing more than a waste of my time and energy if nobody likes them. on the other hand? i can make the same piece (that everybody likes) over and over again like Lalique and Galle did, but it's a waste of resources since i am not as efficient at utilizing the worlds energy supply as a large factory is... where is the happy medium? if you spend all your time looking out for just yourself? you will end up stealing from others, and we do have a corporate culture that does just that. we see it over and over again. they have to be regulated fairly. if you spend all your time looking out for other people? you will end up burned out and broke, you have to find a balance somewhere... both the "left" and the "right" are correct in many of their basic philosophies. it's just that we need them to return to working together in order to maximise efficiency AND progress...
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"The fact is that the top 1 percent of households, pay 27.6 percent of federal taxes and a whopping 38.8 percent of income taxes."
Those are FACTS. Facts are not "incessant hate and insulting"."
No, that claim is false, as those figures do NOT include things like the taxes paid by everyone that puts gasoline in his car and has no tax exemption. Moreover, those figures are not of "households", but of enormous fortunes (and the top 1% do not actually pay the percentages of the Federal revenue you claim they do, though they do get more than those percentages of the benefits from the Federal budget.
THE FACT IS THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF INCOME PAID BY THE WEALTHY IS WAY WAY BELOW THAT PAID BY THE NON-WEALTHY.
Then more lies and insults from you, Propertyguy. I said YOU offer "incessant hate and insulting", not the Government or anyonbe else.
You need to get facts straight. Income tax and payroll tax do not constitute the total sources of Federal revenue and to post claims that that is the case, thereby ignoring the huge portions of the incomes of the poor that go to those other sources is false and intentionally misleading (unless you are so ignorant you actually believe those figures....remember, it was out federal government that supplied the false information to us that led to invading Iraq. We have had for 7 years "Administration" that didn't object to dealing in "incessant hate and insulting").
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Kudos to Obama. A refreshing step in the right direction when it comes to coal.
Environmental regulations to curtail mountaintop mining
quote:The Obama administration on Thursday imposed strict new environmental guidelines that are expected to sharply curtail "mountaintop" coal mining, a controversial practice that has enriched Appalachia's economy while rearranging its topography.
The announcement by the Environmental Protection Agency ended months of bureaucratic limbo on the issue. It was hailed by environmentalists but condemned by coal industry officials, who said it would render a technique that generates about 10 percent of U.S. coal largely impractical.
At "mountaintop removal" mines, which are unique to Appalachian states, miners blast the peaks off mountains to reach coal seams inside and then pile vast quantities of rubble in surrounding valleys. Under the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations, hundreds of such sites received federal permits.
Lots of superfund sites, and a lot of small towns in the area are having federal dollars relocate them to other cities to destroy the towns because they are so contaminated. Kids born in some of these areas score 10 on a 1-10 scale of lead poisoning within their first year of life.
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Good deal. So many things happening. I don't even agree with em all but you gotta admit this guy has done more in his first year than most presidents do in 2 terms.!
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Lots of superfund sites, and a lot of small towns in the area are having federal dollars relocate them to other cities to destroy the towns because they are so contaminated. Kids born in some of these areas score 10 on a 1-10 scale of lead poisoning within their first year of life.
CCM,
I haven't read about the Tri-State area before, but what a disaster. The pollutants from coal that get into the waters out here in PA are bad, but seem like nothing compared to the Tar Creek Superfund. In the Tri-State area they are aparently moving whole towns. Out here, people still live with polluted creeks in their back yards and I've even met a few people, who claim to have played in these same creeks as children, with no apparent side effects.
...(I feel like there is a PA redneck joke in here somewhere)...
The effects of the pollution at the Tar Creek Superfund are obvious. It's another great example of how NOT to get what we need from the Earth. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
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Poisonous gases bring search for missing West Virginia miners to a standstill
quote:Reporting from Montcoal, W.V. - As the sun rose over coal country here Tuesday and the magnitude of a mine explosion a day earlier became clear, emergency officials and anxious family members were forced to wait for up to 12 hours for any potential rescue of four missing miners.
State officials announced just before dawn that 25 people had been killed by a methane explosion Monday afternoon at the Upper Big Branch mine. It was the worst mining disaster in the U.S. since 1984.
Emergency rescue efforts were halted early Tuesday because of a dangerous buildup of methane and carbon dioxide about a mile and half from the entrance to the sprawling mine, owned by Massey Energy Co.
I dunno how many of you are following this story but, IMO, this is yet another reason we should move away from coal. It's just too dangerous and creates too much pollution to be considered an answer to our energy problems, even when it is mined underground.
I hope they manage to rescue the guys still trapped in the mine, and my heart goes out to all the family and friends involved in this horrible accident. I dunno if it is related or not, but springtime is unusual for coal mine explosions, they typically occur in winter. There was a 3.4 earthquake in WV, (also very unusual), two days ago that was only about 100 miles north-east of the mine. I wonder if there is a connection... Perhaps the quake compressed the coal layers in the area and forced methane gas into the mine.
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Looks like the professionals have already ruled out any connection between the Earthquake and the mine blast.
Seismic Events Recorded Not Far From Mine Disaster Site
quote:An earthquake registering magnitude 3.4 occurred early Sunday morning about 100 miles northeast of Montcoal, W. Va., the location of the Upper Big Branch Mine, a massive coal mining operation where an explosion killed and trapped miners more than a mile below the surface on Monday.
An earthquake of that magnitude is strong enough to dislodge pockets of methane gas, though the distance from the mine suggests that it would not have affected the explosion, Julie Dutton, a geophysicist with the U.S. Geological Survey, told FoxNews.com.
"There's the definite possibility that that's what could have happened, but not from this earthquake," Dutton said. "This one was too far away and days separated. That makes a big difference."
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