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Oct 11, 3:00 PM (ET)


NEW YORK (AP) - A plane crash has been reported on Manhattan's Upper East Side. Video from the scene shows at least three apartments in the high rise fully engulfed in flames.

There was no immediate word on any deaths or injuries.

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NORAD is saying the plane was not hijacked and it's not terrorist related... we'll see...
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If you want to tune in on the story, CNN is carrying the best coverage of this story thus far...
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I hope Bush isn't sitting around wondering if he should do anything about this or not.
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Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are already planning their blame speeches.
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LoL, that's funny. I hope not too
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It's believed to be a small plane or helicopter

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Odd, it's 10/11 today...
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quote:
Originally posted by Ace of Spades:
LoL, that's funny. I hope not too

Today is the 11th.
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The FAA is saying it was a plane. Everybody else is saying it was a helicopter...
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In this day and age of hightened security and terrorism, it's pretty sad when America's gov't security agencies can't yet determine where the plane took off from, where it was going, what kind of plane it was, who was on the plane... the FAA, the NY Port Authority, Homeland Security, etc. know nothing right now and don't have any answers.
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just goes to prove that we have made little to no real security progress....

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NORAD is now dispatching fighter jets to numerous American cities. This is getting interesting...
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oh come on! Do you really think they haven't tried in these number of years?
And realisticly there is only so much security we can do.

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just goes to prove that we have made little to no real security progress....


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This just in.It was Corey Lidel of the New York Yankees that crashed his small plane into the bvuilding.

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That's really sad that he crashed his plane. But on the other hand, the fact that a well known celebrity was responsible for the accident should hopefully keep the libs and the Dems from concoting outlandish conspiracy theories and from blaming Repub politicians.
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Mayor Bloomberg says it was a flight instructor and an assistant flight instructor...no mention of the pitcher by him...

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Try MLB.com

http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp?c_id=nyy

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/index.jsp

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NYC Medical examiner says two people died...
Bloomberg says they were flight instructors...

i also see the report that Lidel was killed...

Bloomberg may have mispoken about the assistant instructor, and meant student...

student would be Lidle.... [Roll Eyes]

i also saw people swear they saw a helicopter...

one was even a VP of one of the Network News agencies...

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Updated: Oct. 11, 2006, 5:37 PM ET
Lidle dies as plane crashes into Manhattan high-rise

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NEW YORK -- A small plane with New York Yankees pitcher Cory Lidle aboard crashed into a 50-story condominium tower Wednesday on Manhattan's Upper East Side, killing at least two people -- including Lidle -- and raining flaming debris on sidewalks, authorities said

Federal Aviation Administration records showed the single-engine plane was registered to Lidle. A law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition on anonymity, said two people were aboard, and Lidle's passport was found at the crash scene. The plane had issued a distress call before the crash, according to the official.

On Sunday, the day after the Yankees were eliminated from the playoffs, Lidle cleaned out his locker at Yankee Stadium and talked about his interest in flying.

He explained to reporters the process of getting a pilot's license and said he intended to fly back to California in several days and planned to make a few stops. Lidle discussed the plane crash of John F. Kennedy Jr. and how he had read the accident report on the National Transportation Safety Board Web site.

Lidle, acquired from the Philadelphia Phillies on July 30, told The New York Times last month that his four-seat Cirrus SR20 plane was safe.

"The whole plane has a parachute [that can be deployed in the event of emergency] on it," Lidle said. "Ninety-nine percent of pilots that go up never have engine failure, and the 1 percent that do usually land it. But if you're up in the air and something goes wrong, you pull that parachute, and the whole plane goes down slowly."

Lidle pitched 1 1/3 innings in the fourth and final game of the AL Division Series against the Detroit Tigers and gave up three earned runs but was not the losing pitcher. He had a 12-10 regular-season record with a 4.85 ERA.

He pitched with the Phillies before coming to the Yankees, who acquired him at the July trade deadline along with outfielder Bobby Abreu. He began his career in 1997 with the Mets. He also pitched for Tampa Bay, Oakland, Toronto and Cincinnati.

Lidle was an outcast among some teammates throughout his career because he became a replacement player in 1995, when major-leaguers were on strike.

For his career, he was 82-72 with two saves and a 4.57 ERA.

"I wish I had the words. I have no words. I just have strong emotions, it's sadder than sad," Mets pitching coach Rick Peterson, who was Lidle's pitching with the A's from 2001-02, told ESPN.com's Jayson Stark. "I wish I had an answer [about how to prepare for a baseball game under these circumstances]. I don't have an answer. You try to deal with the emotions first. It's horrific, it's unbelievable, just a surreal moment. It just shows how insignificant some of the things we think are significant really are."

The twin-engine plane came through a hazy, cloudy sky and hit the 20th floor of The Belaire -- a red-brick tower overlooking the East River, about five miles from the World Trade Center -- with a loud bang, touching off a raging fire that cast a pillar of black smoke over the city and sent flames shooting from four windows on two adjoining floors.

Large crowds gathered in the street in the largely wealthy New York neighborhood, with many people in tears and some trying to reach loved ones by cell phone.

"I was worried the building would explode, so I got out of there fast," said Lori Claymont, who fled an adjoining building in sweatpants.

Young May Cha, a 23-year-old Cornell University medical student, said she was walking back from the grocery store down 72nd Street when she saw an object out of the corner of her eye.

"I just saw something come across the sky and crash into that building," she said. Cha said there appeared to be smoke coming from behind the aircraft, and "it looked like it was flying erraticaly for the short time that I saw it."

"The explosion was very small. I was not threatened for my life," she added.

Richard Drutman, a professional photographer who lives on the 11th floor, said he was talking on the telephone when he felt the building shake.

"There was a huge explosion. I looked out my window and saw what appeared to be pieces of wings, on fire, falling from the sky," Drutman said. He and his girlfriend quickly evacuated the building.

The plane left New Jersey's Teterboro Airport, just across the Hudson River from the city, at 2:30 p.m., about 15 minutes before the crash, according to officials at the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which operates the airport. But they said they did not where the aircraft was headed.

FAA spokeswoman Diane Spitaliere said the plane was apparently not in contact with air traffic controllers; pilots flying small planes by sight are not required to be in contact.

The National Transportation Safety Board sent a team to investigate.

Former NTSB director Jim Hall said in a telephone interview he doesn't understand how a plane could get so close to a New York City building after Sept. 11.

"We're under a high alert and you would assume that if something like this happened, people would have known about it before it occurred, not after," Hall said.

Mystery writer Carol Higgins Clark, daughter of author Mary Higgins Clark, lives on the 38th floor and was coming home in a cab when she saw the smoke.

"Thank goodness I wasn't at my apartment writing at the time," she said. She described the building's residents as a mix of actors, doctors, lawyers, writers and people with second homes.

Sgt. Claudette Hutchinson, a spokeswoman for the North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado Springs, Colo., said fighter jets "are airborne over numerous U.S. cities and while every indication is that this is an accident, we see this as a prudent measure at this time."

However, all three New York City-area airports continued to operate normally, FAA spokesman Jim Peters said. In Washington, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said neither President Bush nor Vice President Dick Cheney was moved to secure locations.

"All indications are that is an unfortunate accident," said Yolanda Clark, a spokeswoman for Homeland Security's Transportation Security Administration. She said there was "no specific or credible intelligence suggesting an imminent threat to the homeland, at this time."

The crash struck fear in a city devastated by the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Sirens echoed across the neighborhood as about 170 firefighters rushed in along with emergency workers and ambulances. Broken glass and debris were strewn around the neighborhood.

"There's a sense of helplessness," said Sandy Teller, watching from his apartment a block away. "Cots and gurneys, waiting. It's a mess."

The tower was built in the late 1980s and is situated near Sotheby's auction house. It has 183 apartments, many of which sell for more than $1 million.

Several lower floors are occupied by doctors and administrative offices, as well as guest facilities for family members of patients at the Hospital for Special Surgery, hospital spokeswoman Phyllis Fisher said.

No patients were in the high-rise building and operations at the hospital a block away were not affected, Fisher said.

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They said they found Lidle's Passport in the street.
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The death of Lidle is realy A-Rod's fault. [Frown] Had he gotten a few hits, they would still be in the playoffs, and Lidle would have never been on that plane. [Frown]

At least this will be what the sports writers will say.

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ARTICLE:In Lidle, Yanks Have Extra Pitcher and Backup Pilot

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/sports/baseball/08yankees.html?ex=1315368000&e n=f488e3344c30a4f4&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

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New article

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/sports/baseball/08yankees.html?ex=1315368000&e n=f488e3344c30a4f4&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

whoops ! I guess Juice is faster.

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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/05/SP1 95613.DTL&o=0

Lidle Twins' Season in Sun
A's pitcher Cory Lidle, right, and his twin, Angels catcher Kevin Lidle, were known for swapping identities at South Hills High School, which the Giambi brothers also attended. Chronicle photo by Jeff Chiu

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object/article?f=/chronicle/archive/2001/03/05/SP1 95613.DTL&o=0

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It was August 2nd 1979 that the Captain of the NYY died in his jet; the great Thurman Munson, #15. His locker in the Yankee Stadium clubhouse has been left empty ever since. His number was immediately retired after his death.
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If u write 10/11/06 on a piece of paper and flip it over, it reads 9/11/01

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And if you flip it over again, it reads 10/11/06 [Roll Eyes]
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Actually I think it reads 90/11/01.

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And the one's would be upside down. LOL

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