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Machiavelli
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quote:
Originally posted by kittykash:
Mach, I don't blame Clinton for things he did not foresee. But I truly could not stand that man, for many reasons. gee what is the dow about to reach. And very low unempolyment. a very good economy. Paleeze.

Don't ever think that the Dow, unemployment , economy ever has to do with Bush lol He's not in charge of the Fed who makes the decisions about interest rates and other issues that drive or collapse the economy.. Bush just tries to take the credit...

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quote:
Originally posted by kittykash:
about spying on U.S. citizens phone lines and internet lines without warrants

I'm for doing that

about the compromise of a CIA agent's cover
oh please, blame him for that, when this couple was annoucing it EVERYWHERE BESIDES??

Writ of Habeas Corpus,Halliburton being a CIA front with virtual monopolies
BIG TIME RUMOR show me the REAL FACTS ..they ain't there. OTHERWISE we'd see MANY newsmen, demo's on this and that is a fact

So let him listen to your conversations, emails etc.. but stay out of mine unless you have a warrant.. which is how it should be done.. you suspect im a Terrorist and want to prove it. go to a judge and get a warrant to listen in on me just like you do for the Mob and other criminals...

Was Bush's man who blew that CIA's cover... nothing else...

Writ of Habeas Corpus: There have been people arrested and not charged with any crime , allowed to see a lawyer and still in jail or were.. that is a fact not fiction..

And please Halliburton is so obvious you don't need the media for that .... Rep or Dem media lol ... why weren't any other companies allowed to bid for the gov't contract and/or if they were why wasn't a low bidder given the contract? ... who was a executive of Halliburton before being VP of the U.S.? ... facts maam... facts...

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quote:
Originally posted by kittykash:
about spying on U.S. citizens phone lines and internet lines without warrants

I'm for doing that


KK...go live in China, Russia, Iran,or North Korea then...

that's where they arleady do that

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quote:
Originally posted by kittykash:


about the compromise of a CIA agent's cover
oh please, blame him for that, when this couple was annoucing it EVERYWHERE BESIDES??


totally untrue...

Fitzgeral determined this was a lie a long time ago... you are repeating Bush admin propaganda...

at one time? i had training in handling questions about classifed information:

there is only ONE PROPER answer:

"I can neither confirm nor deny...."

Rove definitely didn't do that...

and? their plan was to scare anybody in the intel community from coming forward and disagreeing with the admin...

many people did anyway...

and they continue to...

Haliburton? CIA? no big deal.. they are pretty useless to the CIA for covert stuff by now anyway...

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Kity Cash there was a name for people of your ilk in the revolutionary war they were called Tory's
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KK, though she claims respect for truth and fact, bases everything on Party line takling points, about 1 in 100 of which remotely resemble truth..

I believe she actyally and sincerely believes that crap (that's scary, if ya know what I mean).

She certainly has a right to do that and to expouse that stuff, but it would be refreshing (not to mention that it might show a little respect for the Constitution) to see her allow freedom of expression to those that are not religious about the far right BS and those that, though leaning to the right themselves, place Country before Party.

Name calling, insults, and twisting of facts is about all we see from the far right, now-a-days.

I remember when once upon a time, there was a respected far rightwinger, AUH2O, who actually had the ability to tell a joke that wasn't related to politics at all, could do so without lowering himself into the cess-pool of degrading assertions about non-rightwingers, without twisting facts, and who was a respecter of strict adherence to the Constitution. The man was respected as a man and an individual. Is there a single one of these guys that is?

No, they are Party firsters and the Nation can go to hell in spades.

Sad, sad ,sad, sad.........

Shame, shame, shame, shame,.....

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had to make a correction about Habeas Corpus. Could not edit it in time:

Writ of Habeas Corpus: There have been people arrested and not charged with any crime ,not allowed to see a lawyer and still in jail or were..

I forgot to put "Not" about the lawyer part.

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Yep. Kittykash has negated any pretense of reason with this statement. She would be quite at home in NAZI Germany.

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Originally posted by glassman:
quote:
Originally posted by kittykash:
about spying on U.S. citizens phone lines and internet lines without warrants

I'm for doing that


KK...go live in China, Russia, Iran,or North Korea then...

that's where they arleady do that



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little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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KK cares about nothing but maintaining control by the republican Party and eagerly will sell the country to do so.

There have been others before that, confused about which is which, worshiped a Party before their country.

The oath is not to the Party or even the Country, but to "uphold the Constitution".

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The Government exists for the sole purpose of serving the People, not ruling the People.

When the Government violates the Constitution, it is the duty of the People to rise up against the Government to bring the Government into compliance with the Constitution.

Further, the Declaration of Independence states:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

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