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What do you think about all this????

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Wednesday named conservative commentator Tony Snow as White House press secretary, putting a new face on a troubled administration.

Snow, a Fox news pundit and former speechwriter in the White House under Bush's father, replaced Scott McClellan who resigned in a personnel shuffle intended to re-energize the White House and lift the president's record-low approval ratings.

"My job is to make decisions and his job is to help explain those decisions to the press corps and the American people," Bush said, with Snow and McClellan at his side in the White House briefing room.

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Bush needs all the help he can get, Snow has lots of experience at Fox trying to make Bush look better [Big Grin]
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This is OLD NEWS... Bill O'Reilly had already announced that Tony Snow will infact become the new Press Secretary for George W. Bush last weekend. I know Snow will do a GREAT job for the Bush Administration.

Bush's approval rating low? So what? That just makes G.W. Bush even stronger than he has ever been and possibly one of the BEST President this country has ever had in U.S. HISTORY!

IMO, anyone who goes against the one the Americans voted for to serve our country as President is a true "traitor" of the USA. Support The President and our Country... Why keep whining and complaining til 2008? Just know Bush WILL infact serve his full second term as OUR PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA! The End.

When that HORRIBLE Bill Clinton was President for 8 LONG years, I made NO effort to remove him from his Presidential Seat as the Commander-In-Chief. It would do no good for the country.

John McCain..... You're too liberal and I WON'T vote for you unless I really really need to!

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He'll be impeached after the midterms. Guaranteed.

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Jim Cramer of Mad Money just a few days ago has also stated that RIGHT NOW in present time, the U.S. Economy is better than ever! Hmmmmm..... Because of George W. Bush? I believe so.

And also..... Bush will NOT be impeached after the midterms like you want him to be, guaranteed. So I hear that you would rather have Dick Cheney running the show, huh? Cheney would make a GREAT President but for now, George W. Bush will serve his full 2nd term as OUR President of the U.S. Take that to the bank! No deposit slip required.

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hey DWE, still singing the same tune?


wait till everybody realises that the gasahol they are paying MORE for gives them 4% or worse LOWER fuel mileage....

Bush will be lucky to finish his term

this economy is no more Bushes economy than the boom of the mid 90's was Clinton's....

yeah, remember? the bozo they impeached for lying?
Bush never lied (under oath) LOL...

not to worry tho, as long as Cheney is still in office? nobody would consider impeaching Bush...

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Sure, the economy is rolling strong. There's no doubt about that. But guess who's going to bear the brunt of Bush's ultra liberal fiscial irresponsibility in about 3-4 years... we are, the economy is!!!

Bush's liberal, radical spending has raped America of a strong economic future. If you do not realize this, you are a blithering idiot. The next Prez will have to somehow work with Congress to fix the fiscial mess Bush has gotten us. America is blinded by their fat bank accounts and fat paychecks. But the time for us paupers to pay the prince is quickly coming upon us.

God help America......

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Amen.

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LoL. But what exactly are all of you whining and complaining about though? Is what you're doing helping the President, the Country and yourselves? You're alive, you most likely have a job, you have a roof over your head. Seriously, what is there to complain about? You bash Bush, you bash this country. Very patriotic!

DWE - A Real American FOR George W. Bush

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quote:
Originally posted by DWE:
LoL. But what exactly are all of you whining and complaining about though? Is what you're doing helping the President, the Country and yourselves? You're alive, you most likely have a job, you have a roof over your head. Seriously, what is there to complain about? You bash Bush, you bash this country. Very patriotic!

DWE - A Real American FOR George W. Bush

ahem, DWE, look what we have here [Wink]

Presidential Criticism

Recently several people have written to ask us about a viewpoint TR had on criticism of the presidency. This quote was part of an editorial he wrote for the "Kansas City Star" durning World War I.

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149
May 7, 1918


i think you'll find that i have TRIED to do just that....
and NO, i haven't been perfect in my criticisms and there has been little to praise Bush for...

pay specific attention to the part about UNpatriotism

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Dissent is patriotic.
Bush is not the Country.
Bush is not FOR the Country.
Patriotism is not blind obedience.

quote:
Originally posted by DWE:
LoL. But what exactly are all of you whining and complaining about though? Is what you're doing helping the President, the Country and yourselves? You're alive, you most likely have a job, you have a roof over your head. Seriously, what is there to complain about? You bash Bush, you bash this country. Very patriotic!

DWE - A Real American FOR George W. Bush



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DWE, you scare me. You have an "eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die" mentality. While you're living in the moment, as happy as a pig in sh*t, you are ignorning the financial disaster that's on the horizon.

We're going to end up spending at least $2 trillion on Iraq by the end of Bush's reign. Add all that to the billions spend on the hurricanes, and the billions spent after 9/11.

The dollar is weakening on the world market. The trade deficit is widening. Inflation is rising. The real estate market is on crackcocaine, interest rates are going to keep rising, personal household debt is out of control, U.S. corporations are setting up shop overseas at an alarming rate, health care companies are raping their customers, there's serious instability amongst oil-rich countries... need I go on?

And fools like you are happy to live for today without a care of what's on tomorrow's horizon. Keep wallowing in your sh*t pool of ignorance - just the rest of us, you'll have to pay the prince too...

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AH! That explains why the DOW is currently at 11,382.51 and the NASDAQ is at 2,344.95 and just keeps rising. [Big Grin]

Before the 2004 Presidential Elections, "those analysts" were right all along! If Kerry was to be elected as President, the DOW currently would be below 10,000. And they also stated that if Bush would be elected to a second term, the DOW would be above 10,000 which it currently is. Sometimes, those analysts are like weathermen. But these analysts from "FOX NEWS" were pretty accurate!

Yes, and that was from my choice of news, "FOX NEWS".

GO TONY SNOW!!!

P.S. I'm pretty happy with life. Although, I would like to have about 10 million dollars more though. I'm also VERY HAPPY that George W. Bush is our President.

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Before the 2004 Presidential Elections, "those analysts" were right all along! If Kerry was to be elected as President, the DOW currently would be below 10,000. And they also stated that if Bush would be elected to a second term, the DOW would be above 10,000 which it currently is.

thats just a good example of the mindless babble Fox "news" propagates DWE...

how on earth can you say "If Kerry was to be elected as President, the DOW currently would be below 10,000."???
that's like saying 911 wouldna happened if Gore was president... nonesense..

the DOW is up because people stopped putting so much more money in housing for the moment...

those same people were also saying there was going to be a housing bubble burst.... didn't happen (yet anyway)

if you watch Fox "news" long enough? you'll hear almost every possible speculation mentioned... and they never remind you of all the wrong stuff they spout...
if yo want real business news watch Bloomberg...they at least do their DD instead of pumping their current "pet"

maybe you would 'splain why Bush waited till his energy company cash givewaway was passed by congress to start talking about America's "addiction" to foreign oil?
we've known about it since the 1970's (you probably don't remember the oil embargo)

i wish i had a dollar for every time Bush has said "we're learning from our mistakes" LOL... i'd be rich cuz that's all he does...

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A new lapp dog and toady for the draft evader and his right hand draft dodger go yellow boys
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Keep fiddling while Rome burns...

Sure the market is hot now. It was hot under Clinton's reign too. So what's your point?

I just read a scary statistic this morning -- 43% of homes last year were bought with no money down. That's a staggering amount of debt load on America. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about and that is scaring me.

Bush has raped the U.S. Treasury to pay for his Iraq farce. The next president, whether he's a Repub or Dem is going to be forced to rape us taxpayers to foot the bill. Why can't you see the looming disaster???

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quote:
Originally posted by BongLoad:
Keep fiddling while Rome burns...

Sure the market is hot now. It was hot under Clinton's reign too. So what's your point?

I just read a scary statistic this morning -- 43% of homes last year were bought with no money down. That's a staggering amount of debt load on America. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about and that is scaring me.


also? 40% of those homes were SECOND home purchases.....

Americans snapping up second homes — as investments or vacation properties — accounted for four out of every 10 sales of existing homes last year, a record that helped drive the real estate market to new highs, according to a report being released today by the National Association of Realtors.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/housing/2006-04-04-real-estate-usat_x.htm

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And a large number of these home purchases were financed with Adustable Rate Mortgage - as interest rates go up many of these new or second homeowners won't be able to make their monthly payments.
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quote:
Originally posted by BongLoad:
Keep fiddling while Rome burns...

Sure the market is hot now. It was hot under Clinton's reign too. So what's your point?

I just read a scary statistic this morning -- 43% of homes last year were bought with no money down. That's a staggering amount of debt load on America. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about and that is scaring me.

Bush has raped the U.S. Treasury to pay for his Iraq farce. The next president, whether he's a Repub or Dem is going to be forced to rape us taxpayers to foot the bill. Why can't you see the looming disaster???

Those 43% of homes that were purchased with "No Money Down" were most likely those people who watch late-night TV informercials and bought Charlton Sheets' "No Money Down" Real Estate Program. Hah, I guess this Sheets guy is a genius!

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BongLoad, You're right. And when this occurs, people like DWE will blame Clinton. [Roll Eyes]

quote:
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DWE, you scare me. You have an "eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die" mentality. While you're living in the moment, as happy as a pig in sh*t, you are ignorning the financial disaster that's on the horizon.

We're going to end up spending at least $2 trillion on Iraq by the end of Bush's reign. Add all that to the billions spend on the hurricanes, and the billions spent after 9/11.

The dollar is weakening on the world market. The trade deficit is widening. Inflation is rising. The real estate market is on crackcocaine, interest rates are going to keep rising, personal household debt is out of control, U.S. corporations are setting up shop overseas at an alarming rate, health care companies are raping their customers, there's serious instability amongst oil-rich countries... need I go on?

And fools like you are happy to live for today without a care of what's on tomorrow's horizon. Keep wallowing in your sh*t pool of ignorance - just the rest of us, you'll have to pay the prince too...



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quote:
Originally posted by DWE:
[QUOTE]Those 43% of homes that were purchased with "No Money Down" were most likely those people who watch late-night TV informercials and bought Charlton Sheets' "No Money Down" Real Estate Program. Hah, I guess this Sheets guy is a genius!

OK DWE, now maybe you can 'splain how they are gonna pay those mortgages with NET DISPOSABLE income shrinking and interest rates rising.....

i've lived all over...

i've lived in the country, i've lived in the city, and i've lived in suburbia.... east coast, west coast midwest, midsouth....

everywhere i've lived? i've seen a few people making it for real, and i've seen MOST people living at least two or three paychecks BEHIND due to the credit card lifestyles....

there are a few people doing really well, (as usual) but what i am seeing is more and more pawn shops and even more " check cashing-pay-day loan" co's...
face it, the house of cards is getting too tall, and even those of US that are spendthrift savers and even downright MISERLY [Big Grin] are not gonna be able to get out of the way IF it does tumble down..
BUSH isn't offering any answers, and neither are the Democrats (that i can see)

ethanol is good to add to the mix (about ten years too late BTW), but it's not a cure... not even close.. neither is arctic drilling...

the American lifestyle is about to change dramatically....

one of the things nobody wants to admit is how many of those mortgages are owned by China...

and? nobody wants to see interest rates hit mid 70's levels again, but if oil doesn't go back down soon? inflation will force more rate hikes, and the US govt under Bush has borrowed more foreign money than ALL of the other Presidents combined

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Pearls to swine.

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Right on, glassman and Gordon. You guys get it.
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Nobody here wants to buy a home for "no money down"? [Big Grin]

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quote:
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Nobody here wants to buy a home for "no money down"? [Big Grin]

that's not the point DWE...
Bush is CROWING about almost 5% growth in GDP...

the economy is great!!! right? wrong......

read here:
http://www.economicindicators.gov/

note, this is Bush's own people (appointee's) putting these numbers out...
they even have a web page where YOU could apply to work here for Dubya yourself....

http://www.commerce.gov/WH_Liaison/PA_forms/Intro.htm

good luck, you would fit right in [Wink]

if you do read thru here pay attention to what made those numbers go up:

two major things

1)Durables goods purchases increased 20.6 percent
2)Real federal government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 10.8 percent
in the first quarter, in contrast to a decrease of 2.6 percent in the fourth. National defense increased 10.3
percent, in contrast to a decrease of 8.9 percent. Nondefense increased 11.7 percent, the same as in the
fourth quarter.



i still can't find out what those "durable goods are yet, but i'll keep looking...

i hope they didn't throw in ALL the jetliners ordered for the next several years into one quarter [Roll Eyes]
i do know for a fact that federal spending is up to pay the fuel costs (transportation and electricity)....
so are local school bus budgets and police and fire gasoline budgets...
in other words? the economic indicators are high because we are spending ourselves into
MORE DEBT....

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i should add that i don't think our economy is bad, just that i am philosophically opposed to borrowing so dang much money...
esp. from China....
they will slam the door on US one day.... when it suits their needs...

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I honestly don't follow up on these issues too often. I'm actually doing pretty good in life, exceeding my own goals & expectations so therefore I don't complain about much except for what the ultra-lefties are attempting to do with this country. Oh..... And I don't whine and complain about $3 to 4 dollar per gallon gasoline either. After all, I AM PRO EXXON-MOBIL, ticker symbol: XOM

I don't own a million shares of XOM but it'll be more than enough for my little girl's college tuition.

GEORGE W. BUSH!!! I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS ABOUT YOU! YOU'RE DOING A FINE FINE JOB IN MY BOOK!!! GOD BLESS THE USA!

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quote:
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I honestly don't follow up on these issues too often.

Sadly, that fact doesn't keep you from pretending you have a clue.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:


... nobody wants to see interest rates hit mid 70's levels again, but if oil doesn't go back down soon? inflation will force more rate hikes, and the US govt under Bush has borrowed more foreign money than ALL of the other Presidents combined

I feel that people involved in this thread know quite a lot about historical facts. Does anyone know what was happening on the real estate market during mid 70’s (RE value; RE trading Etc)?
I think we can have the same scenario next year (very high oil prices, high inflation & very high interest rates).

All facts, opinions, and/or web link on the subject are appreciated.

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Very simple all mark my words WE WILL BE SORRY AND CURSE THE DAY WE CRAWLED INTO BED WITH CHINA.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:

if you do read thru here pay attention to what made those numbers go up:

two major things

1)Durables goods purchases increased 20.6 percent
2)Real federal government consumption expenditures and gross investment increased 10.8 percent
in the first quarter, in contrast to a decrease of 2.6 percent in the fourth. National defense increased 10.3
percent, in contrast to a decrease of 8.9 percent. Nondefense increased 11.7 percent, the same as in the
fourth quarter.



i still can't find out what those "durable goods are yet, but i'll keep looking...


This one is quite logical - these "durable goods" are the furniture, refrigerators etc for newly built/bought houses and apartments...
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