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Actually you are leaving one person out in this process. When a company is diluting the TA usually isn't the person that deals with the MM's. The company normally hires a clearing service to do this and the TA issues the shares to the clearing service who sells them for the company. Now that clearing service usually has a MM to handle sells for them. If the dilution is large they will get several MM's involved. But the Clearing service acts as the seller and the MM handles distribution of the shares. The clearing service gets a cut from the company and the MM's usually gets a kickback from the Clearing service Usually the kick back is the clearing service will sell to the MM under bid so their spread is actually higher then it is showing on the charts. The MM never loses money this way since they don't actually hold the shares, the clearing service does. CCLS is one of the largest clearing services out of California. Not to say the Clearing house is always used on small dilutions but for large ones it is a must. Of course a lot of dilution is made by small company by giving shares to other companies as financing or just to pay the bills with shares. And now they are the sellers of the newly issued shares.
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I'm a self made millionaire. No man, message board helped me. Unlike you I can post transactions to prove my statement. You have to use your head and notice the weakness or the strenth of the market. Notice how many plays close huge next day close in the red 20%+ people are dumping it. You need to think about selling as soon as you are in. You investors never learn. If given the chance I can show you a thing or to. But I guess your ego won't move out the way. Carry on.. Ia concerned on my gappers and CEAT.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: Actually you are leaving one person out in this process. When a company is diluting the TA usually isn't the person that deals with the MM's. The company normally hires a clearing service to do this and the TA issues the shares to the clearing serive who sells them for the company. Now that clearing service usually has a MM to handle sells for them. If the dilution is large they will get several MM's involved. But the Clearing service acts as the seller and the MM handles distribution of the shares. The clearing service gets a cut from the company and the MM's usually gets a kickback from the Clearing service Usely the kick back is the clearing service will sell to the MM under bid so their spread is actually higher then it is showing on the charts. The MM never loses money this way since they don't actully hold the shares, the clearing service does. CCLS is one of the largest clearing services out of California.
Thank you sir. I was waiting for your post. He had no idea what he was talking about. The company dump the shares into the market. It's a much more larger process. Thank you for clearing that up RIC. You sure know your stocks and was one of the people who warned investors on QBID and CMKX. When will these people who think they know everything will then notice they know nothing..
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Just who do you think you are talking to little boy? You should have not wandered away from momo's protective shadow. You are the very person you are warning people about. A scam. You are no millionaire... smart money is betting your mommy doesn't even know you are out of bed right now.
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quote:Originally posted by RiescoDiQui: Just who do you think you are talking to little boy? You should have not wandered away from momo's protective shadow. You are the very person you are warning people about. A scam. You are no millionaire... smart money is betting your mommy doesn't even know you are out of bed right now.
Hey QUI I am not 5 years old. Ric disproved your STUPID theory which you would of beat your life on and you were wrong. Get over it and move on. *****Pick up your theeth from the floor young man and watch the left jab next time you brawl with a heavyweight*****
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It's not who knows what about whom. It's about you being wrong and me Daddy still loving you even though you thought you knew more then me. I still love you my offspring...
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I see momo can't find anyone with a working keyboard... It should be known and I'm sure momo is watching. The lords of allstocks are back and they will clean this board of the pumper scum who think they have found a home.. Pital I hope you enjoy your stay... it will be brief. Take your gimpy grammarless a$$ back to momo's site where he can tell you it's ok.
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here's the thang about the thang; sometimes he jumps up and blurts out the truth:
quote:Use this shady market to your advantage instead of crying about it. How many illegal things go on in a day and SEC does nothing to stop it. They don't care about us unless we post fake PR and cause a massive run. (Lebed) other then that it's free game.
kind of a tourrette's-like reaction, I suppose...anyway, ya--that's right, we can't count on the reg agencies to do anything, so we watch each others' backs...
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Pital... crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and please take investing 101 before coming back...JMHO and somebody please delete this whole, what is becoming, space wasting/insane topic! JMHO
quote:Originally posted by Pital: Think about the logic behind Dilution. Dilution is when the company adds shares to the o/s.. The o/s is the amount of shares that can be traded in the public..In other words O/S is shares MM's and Public owns.. Which means when a stock is an IPO and she has 10m shares in o/s thats the most amount of shares that can held by the public.. So anyway when companies dilute who is buying on the BID? Not us.. Only because they are pink sheets and they can not be bidded on by the public. So for a stock to fall from .006 to subpenny and trade millions of dollars those are sells. MM's have to pay to keep that load for the public to buy.. Those shares arent free. Those shares are sold into the market. SCHB is down over 1.3b dollars on QBID alone.. True story.. They are the ones that keep buying when it goes down. Think about the logic my friend.
quote:Originally posted by strike1: Pital... crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and please take investing 101 before coming back...JMHO and somebody please delete this whole, what is becoming, space wasting/insane topic! JMHO
quote:Originally posted by Pital: Think about the logic behind Dilution. Dilution is when the company adds shares to the o/s.. The o/s is the amount of shares that can be traded in the public..In other words O/S is shares MM's and Public owns.. Which means when a stock is an IPO and she has 10m shares in o/s thats the most amount of shares that can held by the public.. So anyway when companies dilute who is buying on the BID? Not us.. Only because they are pink sheets and they can not be bidded on by the public. So for a stock to fall from .006 to subpenny and trade millions of dollars those are sells. MM's have to pay to keep that load for the public to buy.. Those shares arent free. Those shares are sold into the market. SCHB is down over 1.3b dollars on QBID alone.. True story.. They are the ones that keep buying when it goes down. Think about the logic my friend.
No don't earse this thread. You learned what happens during Dilution since you didn't know before. Kill the ego.
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he had the vitals, ric topped it off. You killed it...
anyway, everybody knows it was simply a front to get around to posting the latest groper, which you did...go back to your board and gripe us about us loserzzz over here....
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pital accept your loss, apply some ointment to your tanned hide, tell momo you are sorry for being so incapable, and tell him if he wants something done to do it himself. Now run on home little girl.
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I am so tired with the market. I am no longer deposit any more money to play stock because I don't want to lose my house and become a homeless. Don't lose too much money ! Most of gambler will become loser and lose control of money, and file bankruptcy because of owe pu to $ 100,000 credit card.
You guy just gave money away to your broker, and scammer such as PCCN, CWFG, ......
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IF you are down BIG My only sincere advice is to put it ALL into MOTG. Rumor is they are going to Merge with HRVE that only has a market cap of 2.6 million and falling. HRVE has been issued a minumum bid notice by the nasdaq. I really think this is the next big thing good luck everyone
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Buy mutual funds.. When market has sell offs... Only way to build wealth, other than real estate...........
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Sorry to hear it Rick. You and I are in the same boat I think. I am down pretty hard too. I'm just gonna sit my last stock out and wait. Good luck man.
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D, Rickpic posted that he ran his business in the ground, lost his wife, lost his home...
what--he should rob banks in order to keep trading?
. . . even though he's acknowledging that using his account was more like an addiction than an economic pursuit?
If your intent is to encourage newbs, perhaps it might be more appropriate to encourage good strategy and technique. For one, if losses are mounting? Stop. Re-evaluate . . . before all your capital is gone...
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Rick I have enjoyed your posts and I have learned from them. We never seemed to click on the threads but I have always repspected you and your honesty best of luck buddy and remember cream always rises to the top and you are the best. lol Ray Bond
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quote:Originally posted by rickpic: I've been burned by the market for the last time. Time to retire from give it my money! Good luck Guys and Girls!
Cheers Rick
Did he really stay true to that? I thought I saw him posting like crazy the other day...
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