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glassman
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you guys haven't forgotten that Fitzgerald is still turning over rocks and looking for worms have you? LOL, things are getting about as interesting as can be....

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I think Tom DeLay will be the next to get reamed.

After that, whomever leaked the CIA operative info.
Kinda looks this will point right back to Cheney.

One republican after another being taken down.

Probably won't be much action on Bush until
next summer. No telling what idiotic stunts
Bush will pull between then and now. He will
screw up again, be sure!

Kerry and Kennedy are having a field day with this!

I think even Cain chimed in against Bush. Last
news, seems it is reported at least four of the
republican party are calling for an investigation.

Bush sure is a dumb boy.

Big Hat, No Cattle.

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the chain of succession would have been
Bush, Cheney, Delay,

Delay is gone..... Cheney? that would require Rove to turn States evidence...Rove rollover on Cheney? i don't think Roves got that much "intestinal fortitude" who knows tho? he might surprise us...

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well, a few cattle...nothing like Connally...

but dumb? not quite...smart enough to never make an adult move....the eternal teen-ager--he simply had the circumstance to not be labeled a "boomerang-generation" statistic (despite moving into his daddy's whitehouse).

Were that his "household" middle-class? He woulda washed out on "REALITY TV."

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I don't care what anybody says about Bush. All I know is that the Bush twins are HOT, especially Barbara Bush Jr. (The Brunette).

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Is that all you know?

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quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
well, a few cattle...nothing like Connally...

but dumb? not quite...smart enough to never make an adult move....the eternal teen-ager--he simply had the circumstance to not be labeled a "boomerang-generation" statistic (despite moving into his daddy's whitehouse).

Were that his "household" middle-class? He woulda washed out on "REALITY TV."

hey, guys--I'm posting here

[Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
Is that all you know?

GB, funny question...

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Thanks!

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" Barbara Bush Jr. (The Brunette) "


Hmmm... interesting.

Purl Gurl

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
" Barbara Bush Jr. (The Brunette) "


Hmmm... interesting.

Purl Gurl

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Now thats what a fella could call a Bushizm..LOL

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Does anyone actually believe dubya is bright enough to realize he has admitted to an impeachale offense.

He really thinks anything a president does is excusable and is beyond the Constitution to restrict. We are not dealing here with a first class mind.

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""Section 214, aka "Can I borrow a pen register?"

What it does: "Pen registers" ascertain phone numbers dialed from a suspect's telephone; "Trap and trace" devices monitor the source of all incoming calls. Neither reveals the content of communication. Patriot removes the warrant requirement for these taps so long as the government can certify that the information likely to be obtained is "relevant" to an ongoing investigation against international terrorism.""


http://www.slate.com/id/2088161/

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and? the certification process is supposed to be done with a member of the judicial branch...

in other words? a judge....

the judiciary is there to provide a check or balance to the powers of the executive branch in this case... but also the congress in other cases

why bypass the judiciary?

are you beginning to get a glimpse of why there is so much danger in villifying the judicial branch?

is there a pattern here? or is it just people in too much of a hurry to follow the rules?

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
and? the certification process is supposed to be done with a member of the judicial branch...

in other words? a judge....

the judiciary is there to provide a check or balance to the powers of the executive branch in this case... but also the congress in other cases

why bypass the judiciary?

Glassman. Go to the link and Read the hole thing. They explain it right down to the nitty gritty.
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did you see the part that says:

The probable-cause requirement in criminal cases is gone. Courts may not inquire into the truthfulness of the allegations before authorizing a tap

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i actually spent quite abit of time reading the patriot act 2 already...

there's only a few problems i have with it...

the problem is that if we go down this road? we won't need judges....

why have'em?

this will leave the door pen for personal vendetta's, blackmail whatever.....

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well? do you really think it's a good idea to do away with probable cause?

it's pretty fundamental to teh constitution....

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It's Funny how people are now noticing what the G-MEN are doing. They didn't seem to care when they past the RICO ACT in the 80's.

But it proves that Pres. Bush had the authority to give to the NSA. JMHO!

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intesting web magazine you posted from....
did you see this article?

Whopper: George W. Bush
The president crosses his fingers behind his back.
ByTimothy Noah
Posted Wednesday, Dec. 21, 2005, at 2:19 AM ET


Now, by the way, any time you hear the United States government talking about wiretap, it requires—a wiretap requires a court order. Nothing has changed, by the way. When we're talking about chasing down terrorists, we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to doing what is necessary to protect our homeland, because we value the Constitution.

—President Bush, at a Q and A in Buffalo, N.Y., April 20, 2004.


http://www.slate.com/id/2132934/


look back to the beginning of the article, ever noticed the way he does those pauses and repeats? ( talking about wiretap, it requires—a wiretap requires a court order ) i think that's Bush's TELL

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A first grade mind, maybe...

quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Does anyone actually believe dubya is bright enough to realize he has admitted to an impeachale offense.

He really thinks anything a president does is excusable and is beyond the Constitution to restrict. We are not dealing here with a first class mind.



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Hmmm. Posting under yet another name.
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quote:
Originally posted by timberman:
Hmmm. Posting under yet another name.

The same person has like 5 other names on here. Maybe ALLSTOCKS needs to act.
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Why don't you guys stay on topic? Maybe you have no case.

As for me, I only have one name - Gordon Bennett.

Are timberman and BigBuyer100 the same person? Could be!

Maybe ALLSTOCKS needs to act.

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Can random home searches be far behind?

quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
did you see the part that says:

The probable-cause requirement in criminal cases is gone. Courts may not inquire into the truthfulness of the allegations before authorizing a tap



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How about Big Brother watching you through your television??
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Uh oh...

I had a feeling there was something fishy about that free upgrade the government did on my TV last month.

LOL

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Since R. Reagan was not impeached then G. W. Bush should not be impeached because Bush does not even hold a candle up to the shady stuff R. Reagan was pulling off in the 80’s. At least this president is telling us all the shady stuff they are up to.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
A first grade mind, maybe...

quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Does anyone actually believe dubya is bright enough to realize he has admitted to an impeachale offense.

He really thinks anything a president does is excusable and is beyond the Constitution to restrict. We are not dealing here with a first class mind.


First grade, you say.....as in the one right after kindergarten and below second grade?
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quote:
Originally posted by canadadry:
Since R. Reagan was not impeached then G. W. Bush should not be impeached because Bush does not even hold a candle up to the shady stuff R. Reagan was pulling off in the 80’s. At least this president is telling us all the shady stuff they are up to.

Not intentionally, of course. Things sort of slips out between the cracks because he hasn't exactly got a solid foundation for his mind.
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Yes. Do you think I'm being too generous?

quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
First grade, you say.....as in the one right after kindergarten and below second grade?



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Possibly, but I just wanted assurance I wasn't misinterpreting and you intended to say first class.

(Actually, I didn't think so, but I don't want you misquoted, which happens all too often when dealing with right wing extremist! You know, those guys that think republican and patriot are equivalent.)

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I definitely meant one grade above kindergarten. LOL

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Yeah but too bad for the liberals, Bush won't get impeached. I know the libs want it bad but Bush is the Boss of ALL BOSSES just like Big Pauly Castellano of the Gambino Crime Family in New York City. Well, different industries of course.....

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No one worries about Bush if ever there is to be a real test of wills. He'll desert, just like he always has.
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