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Justice Sandra Day O'connor has represented people in this country who TRY to look at each individual issue without ideological bias for a very long time. Her retirement is a great loss.
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Her retirement marks the beginning of Bush being able to appoint justices of his choice.
It is estimated Bush will make two to four new appointments during his tenure. Our Chief Justice cannot last much longer. A few others are of age, they might retire soon, or die soon.
Bush will swing our justice system into a radical right-wing faith based judiciary despite claims he will not do this.
Best learn how to genuflect; God is taking over and school books will be cheap Gideon Bibles.
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Arising from Bush's crony appointment, Miguel Estrada, to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, is an interesting news show on the Jim Leherer news, months back.
A group of federal judges appeared for his show and suggested a more fair system would be to have all federal judges vote a nominee, then vote to confirm or deny. Doing so, would remove partisan politics to a greater degree.
Our current system, judges are political appointments, not judicial appointments. We don't need politicians deciding legal issues.
Bush will roll back our judiciary to that of the turn of the century. First to go, women's hard earned rights, followed by decisions which enhance corporate fraud and financial crimes. Next up, faith based legal decisions allowing church greater control of state.
"Class, we begin this day of public school by bowing our heads and praying to the Almighty."
* mumble mumble hocus-pocus mojo....AMEN!"
"Ok, open your Bibles to James 1:1-27 for a lesson on New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures!"
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"the bible thumpers...they have been played IN My Opinion...."
Ya think? Heh, heh, heh.
Easy to play the ignorant! Praise the Lord!
"Now listen yall, we don't want none of them faggots done marrying each other. Why that is right evil, almost as evil as those pinko commie liberals trying to keep God out of our public schools. A vote for me is a vote for God."
Well, he did try to amend our constitution to not protect the gay, and he did try to take away our family right to make decisions; Shiavo.
Both backfired on him like the Devil's work.
Nonetheless, God is on Bush's side. Not our side, not anyone else, just Bush and his homophobes. They are the chosen ones.
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remember in the debates when they brought up Cheneys daughter?
the conservatives spun that into a sympathy play...
what a joke. Mary Cheney was the lesbian/gay corporate relations manager for Coors Brewing Company. Coors was once boycotted by the GLBT community for its anti-gay political activity. In the early 1990's Coors did marketing analysis and discovered that the boycott was costing them money.
Money..... that's what counts to both sides.... they have to use issues to raise it, and to get votes, but if the money isn't there? they won't be either...
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is this possibly a misuse of tax dollars for campaigning?
Bush "hired journalists to push anti-gay agenda" Christopher Curtis, Gay.com/PlanetOut.com Network Tuesday 1 February, 2005 10:54 |
America's Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has revealed that the Bush Administration paid a conservative columnist to promote its anti-gay policies.
The administration paid syndicated columnist Mike McManus $10,000 to train marriage counsellors as part of the agency's effort to promote marriage, the Associated Press reported.
McManus, whose weekly column appears in at least 30 newspapers stateside, has written several pieces on marriage, exhorting conservatives to join the fight against recognising same-sex couples.
On October 2, 2004, McManus wrote "Marriage: The Surprise Issue of 2004". After citing an unnamed study, which he said proved fidelity was not part of homosexuality, McManus asked, "Do you want to be part of this historic battle? Join a million people gathering at the Washington Mall on October 15 from noon to 3 for a 'Mayday for Marriage.'"
Last week, the Washington Post reported that Maggie Gallagher also received money from HHS.
The paper reported she received more than $40,000 during a two-year period to promote the Federal Marriage Amendment (FMA). The Washington Post claims that Gallagher commissioned polls to contradict other columnists who opposed the president's marriage initiative.
Gallagher continued writing on marriage as an independent journalist without revealing her relationship with HHS.
The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has asked the acting inspector general of the Department of Health and Human Services for an investigation. HRC wants to know whether Gallagher violated federal law by not disclosing the funding to the public or Congress. Gallagher testified before the Senate in support of the FMA on September 4, 2003, and March 3, 2004.
"In an era of pinched funding, where critical health care and social service programs are experiencing severe budget cuts, we find the use of government funds for political advocacy to be deeply troubling," said HRC Political Director Winnie Stachelberg.
The Fourth of July is a time for family, fun and fireworks.
But something happened today that ought to remind everyone what this holiday really symbolizes -- the freedom that makes America great.
That's exactly what hangs in the balance now that Sandra Day O'Connor has resigned from the Supreme Court.
This is no small deal. Over and over, she was the Justice who cast the critical vote in 5-4 cases deciding the most important issues in our nation.
Here's our bottom line for the johnkerry.com community heading into the holiday weekend: we can never let her be replaced by a Justice who does not respect the right to privacy and Roe v. Wade, and who doesn't understand the freedoms protected in our Constitution.
So, this weekend, as you enjoy the Fourth -- take a minute to think about what it means, and come back on Tuesday morning ready to fight for our freedom. It's all at stake now, and we need to come together more than ever.
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PG... "Best learn how to genuflect; God is taking over and school books will be cheap Gideon Bibles."
Quite the contrary...
SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- "Political correctness run amok" is how one senator is describing a court's ruling that the Pledge of Allegiance is unconstitutional. A federal appeals court ruled Wednesday that reciting the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools is an unconstitutional "endorsement of religion" because of the addition of the phrase "under God" in 1954 by Congress.
In its most significant school prayer ruling in years, the Supreme Court today ruled that Texas public schools may not begin football games with organized prayer, even when recited by a student
The Supreme Court ended its session last week, issuing two rulings on the constitutionality of the display of the Ten Commandments on government property.
God is being taken out of society. The word Chrismas is now being banned from stores, schools and other public places. The ACLU made a school district in Georgia remove Christmas from its calendar. These cases are getting far too common. I guess soon we'll need to turn in our money and replace it without "In God We Trust" on it.
I agree we don't need an "established religion" but banning GOD from society is very dangerous.
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Define "conservative" please, so I might know what it is you want or think you want. Define, I say, not characterize or identify, neither of which amounts to a defining!
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The best leadership for the country is provided by a secular conservative empiricist, who understands human nature (and thus economics and foreign relations).
Such a person will never be elected because they refuse to give into the socialistic demands of the voters who want something for nothing (take it from the rich and give it to me).
Such a person will never be appointed as they seem too conservative to democrats.
Our government thus will never have enough of the people it needs in positions of power, whether elected or appointed, and we will slowly become more socialistic until it destroys our economy and there are no more rich people to pay our bills for us. The liberals will eventually have their day and we will all suffer for it.
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Art:Moderates strongly tend to be conformists.
Independent thnkers are not conformists.
glassy: not a direct or accurate logical conclusion.....
especially in the political climate we are currently living in...... Moderate From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In politics and religion, a moderate is an individual who holds an intermediate position between those generally classified as being left-wing or liberal and those seen as being right-wing, conservative, or fundamentalist. The word "moderate" can also be used as an adjective describing such a position.
In politics, moderates often seek conciliation between the views of various political parties, and often take positions partially derived from opposite views. For example, political moderates do not support the end of private property in the way advocated by Marxists, but they also do not support laissez-faire capitalism. Religious moderates tend to take a position that is more liberal than that of fundamentalists, but not as liberal as those who would readily and proudly call themselves such.
it takes a great deal of independant thinking to try to place a value on the ideals of others and find a workable REALWORLD solution....
as a matter of fact, moderates end up leading in real world applications, not conforming, because the polarised groups rarely end up leading in one direction for very long....
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Art: Moderates strongly tend to be conformists.
Independent thnkers are not conformists.
glassy: not a direct or accurate logical conclusion.....especially in the political climate we are currently living in......
Art: Not true, the middle of the road is the path of conformity - divergency is the path of indpendents. An independent position is a minority position - a moderate opinion is a majority opinion or close to it.
Glassman:
Moderate From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
In politics and religion, a moderate is an individual who holds an intermediate position between those generally classified as being left-wing or liberal and those seen as being right-wing, conservative, or fundamentalist. The word "moderate" can also be used as an adjective describing such a position.
In politics, moderates often seek conciliation between the views of various political parties, and often take positions partially derived from opposite views. For example, political moderates do not support the end of private property in the way advocated by Marxists, but they also do not support laissez-faire capitalism. Religious moderates tend to take a position that is more liberal than that of fundamentalists, but not as liberal as those who would readily and proudly call themselves such.
Art: True. The moderate position is a compromise position and this becomes the majority position by virtue of compromise that unites most of the people - the majority .
glassman: it takes a great deal of independant thinking to try to place a value on the ideals of others and find a workable REALWORLD solution....
Art: Not true. It takes compromise to get an agreement on a solution, and this then is regarded as workable, but often is actually ineffective. This is often a dumbing down process. The majority opinion is accepted, no matter how flawed
glassman: as a matter of fact, moderates end up leading in real world applications, not conforming, because the polarised groups rarely end up leading in one direction for very long....
Art: Moderates ascend to leadership because they get majority support - their ideas are conformist. Independents only ascend to leadership by non-conforming genuis and not because of majority support.
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so the real argument is over what an independant thinker is:
i am (and have been) using the term to define someone who questions authority, and refuses to blindly follow the masses....
Bush has attempted to portray himself as an independant thinker by saying things like "i don't care what the polls say" and attempting to mold public opinion....
my assertion is that an independant thinker is willing to examine the opinions of people regardless of their idology and find the value in them....
your defintion of an independant thinker seems to me to be someone who disagrees with everybody
true genius is not being "correct" all the time...
true genius lies in understanding/recognising relationships that are not apparent...
political genius and scientific or artistic genius have little in common...
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glassman:...what an independant thinker is:
i am (and have been) using the term to define someone who questions authority, and refuses to blindly follow the masses....
Art: True, independent opinion diverges from majority opinion, until the majority comes to agree with it.
glassman: Bush has attempted to portray himself as an independant thinker by saying things like "i don't care what the polls say" and attempting to mold public opinion....
Art: Yes, but this is just another Bush lie, as Purl Gurl will confirm. Actually, Bush does care about public opinion, but on the other hand, he is independently leading and letting public opinion later catch up with him, and this is independent thought and action.
glassman: my assertion is that an independant thinker is willing to examine the opinions of people regardless of their idology and find the value in them....
Art: That sounds more like a compromiser who follows opinion and collates it, rather than leads and molds it, and this is not independent in thought or action.
glasman: your definition of an independant thinker seems to me to be someone who disagrees with everybody.
Art: Yes, at first the majority disagrees with an independent thinker. New and valid ideas are first rediculed, then later examined and tentatively proposed by others, then eventually accepted as the belief we all have always had.
glassman: true genius is not being "correct" all the time...
Art: Yes, I am not correct all the time. LOL
glassman: true genius lies in understanding relationships that are not apparent...
Art: Yes, not apparent and not yet accepted as a part of knowledge.
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Art: Yes, at first the majority disagrees with an independent thinker. New and valid ideas then eventually accepted as the belief we all have always had.
glassy-eyed bozo:
new and INvalid ideas "are first rediculed, then later examined and tentatively proposed by others," all the time tooooo
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quote First to go, women's hard earned rights,
yeah, whats wrong with these studip religious wakos. Dont they know if a woman wants to kill her baby thats her right. The baby doesnt have rights till it leaves her body. Its the babies falt for going into her womb and it is her body. Even nature tells us this is OK. Although most animals would never kill there offspring, black widows do so we are in good company. How dare these ignorant fanatics tell woman what they can and cant do. Besides, the babies arnt even alive till they come out. They are unliving at 9 months in the womb and then upon coming out of the womb they go from being an unliving lump of flesh to a precious baby. Dont those bible thumpers know that. I know there have been studies showing they have personalities and react to what is going on around the mother but we should still keep are right to kill are children since they are our children(note) some of what I said was sarcastic so dont take me literally
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I assume then that you'll be glad to open your home and adopt thirty or forty of these unwanted children that you'd like to force women to have?
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as far as abortion goes i don't see why it is a political issue what is the big deal about a free choice the law never stopped a woman from getting one if she wanted to.she found someone to do it or left the country and had it done.how can you in any form of reason take your faith and make it law. if you feelthat this issue is a relegious issue and you have to pass a law to enforce it you are admitting that your pastures,ministers and priest ect. have failed to lead the flock in the right direction. and now you are screaming for the government to do your bidding by law, i am a christian and abortion is not for me but who am i to enforce my beliefs buy law down everybody's throat or take life as some fanatics have to prove how much you value life. best is you live like a christian and let the world do what it must as Christ said you are not part of this world
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4art I have tried to figure that out how can one say that they value the life of others and then make exceptions to wich life gets valued and how they are valued. Why do some people view prison as a place to go where a person is punished by the system by the most terrible acts of violence and torture and they think this is right. What makes them better than the people that are contained.Humans have done such horrible injustice and hateful acts against each other it is hard to be part of the herd for me anymore. I am so sick any more of hearing people scream for more blood ,revenge,and justifaction for slaughter.
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