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OK this is not intended to offend. One of the guys at my unit has a talking George Bush Jr. doll and it is funny.

1. "Lower voter turn out is an indicator of fewer people going to the polls"

2. "A vast majority of our imports come from countries outside of the U.S."

...more to come.

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"They misunderestimated me."
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And Al Gore says he invented the internet.

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Ho, you dufus, Gore said he invented the term "information super highway" (which is true) and you and the the rest of the weak minded republicans can't understand the language well enough to figure out the parts of speach.
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quote:
Originally posted by bdgee:
Ho, you dufus, Gore said he invented the term "information super highway" (which is true) and you and the the rest of the weak minded republicans can't understand the language well enough to figure out the parts of speach.

Art: In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

However, Gore did support the internet while he was in congress, and in that sense he is correct. But, Gore did not take "the initiative in creating the internet" as he said - he gave legislative support to its development. In that he acted commendably.


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"I don't need to be subliminabable."
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Ya ya, let's make fun of George...just more of the same.

I was in a meeting just now and somebody said "...so we can creatively create a solution to..."

and then later said, "...at least that's how I explained it to myself..."

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"I'm also not very analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about why I do things."
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"See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda."
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so you get to attend cabinet meetings with him Ramius?

i don't think we should make fun of dubya....
he's got a lot of hard work to do, and it's hard to do, i mean really hard work, you know, keeping appointements and reading everybody elses notes all the time is really tough, but that's what he does, he makes tough decisions the hard way.....

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"We cannot let terriers and rogue nations hold this
nation hostile or hold our allies hostile."

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Piper's peter pricked a pick of peppered pickles.

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here's a Bushism that actually makes sense....

Trying to eliminate Saddam, extending the ground war into an occupation of Iraq, would have violated our guideline about not changing objectives in midstream, engaging in "mission creep," and would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible. We had been unable to find Noriega in Panama, which we knew intimately. We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq. The coalition would instantly have collapsed, the Arabs deserting it in anger and other allies pulling out as well. Under the circumstances, there was no viable "exit strategy" we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been self-consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land. It would have been a dramatically different — and perhaps barren — outcome.

In 1998, former President George Bush and Brent Scowcroft, National Security Advisor during the Bush administration, collaborated on the book A World Transformed.....

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And then came 9/11.

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"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

"And so during these holiday seasons, we thank our blessings."

"It's a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life."

"After standing on the stage, after the debates, I made it very plain, we will not have an all-volunteer army. And yet, this week — we will have an all-volunteer army!"

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."

"I don't know why you're talking about Sweden. They're the neutral one. They don't have an army."

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Art, is difficulty in constructing sentences using basic grammar protocols also caused by dysarthria?
there is a difference between mispronouncing and misusing words isn't there?

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"A surplus means there'll be money left over. Otherwise, it wouldn't be called a surplus."
-- Kalamazoo, MI 10/27/2000 -

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"I don't want nations feeling like that they can bully
ourselves and our allies. I want to have a ballistic defense
system so that we can make the world more peaceful, and at
the same time I want to reduce our own nuclear capacities to
the level commiserate with keeping the peace."

—Des Moines, Iowa, Oct. 23, 2000

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quote:
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Art, is difficulty in constructing sentences using basic grammar protocols also caused by dysarthria?
there is a difference between mispronouncing and misusing words isn't there?

Yes, speech mispronunciation and syntax misconstructions in speech are different - both involve motor speech screw-ups but the syntax misconstructions bring in problems with integration of consctruction and not just expression of construction.

Problems also can differ between oral speech and written speech expression - some people speak fine but their writing is confused and vice versa. Sometimes this is based on dyslexia - an integrative function rather than an expressive function.

Now, although it is possible to integrate a verbal construction and just mess up in expressing it, these two functions are inter-related - integration and expression are iunified to a great extent. Formulating an idea and expressing it are really unified processes. That being said, formulation can occur without expression. An idea or plan can burst into consciousness full blown, from "out of the blue". But the idea had previously been formulated, but not expressed, outside of awareness, then later came into awareness.

However, expression aids formulation. Some ideas can only be formulated as they are also being expressed. Here trial and error is the assistance. A songwriter writes a song by playing or singing it, part by part. The expression in singing or playing is a part of formulating the song. We write essays, revise and rewrite them, so as to formulate through construction.

These problems have nothing to do with intelligence. There are many brilliant dyslexics and others with verbal integration or expression problems. Bush's problems are mild and in no way denote any reduction in intelligence. There are many really stupid peoplem who don't have such speech problems.


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so we now have a diagnosis from Dr. Art that includes dyslexia, and dysarthria, hmmm...could this also cause spontaneous "mountain bike skin rashes" too??
what about ADDHD? doesn't that also cause people to have a tendancy to have "unbidden thoughts" pop into their heads at inapropriate times?

of course we do know that the plan to invade Iraq didn't just "burst into consciousness full blown, from out of the blue"...since we can look at the new am. century website and follow the development...

i am a little concerned about whether the intel presented to initiate the war just "burst into consciousness full blown, from out of the blue".....
we'll need a consult on that Dr Art, as soon as we find those missing documents....

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ADD is unrelated to the dysphasias, though it is a frontal lobe problem, and motor or expressive aphasia has a locus in lateral frontal problems in the dominant hemisphere. Dyslexia, dysarthria, dysgraphia and related problems are related to aphasia and dysphasia (milder aphasia).

Many said Bush Sr. dropped the ball in not toppling Saddam.

Events subsequently, when Clinton took power, and culminating with 9/11, confirmed that we should have removed Saddam when we had the chance. In a sense, the plan to remove Saddam began soon after we failed to do so in the first Gulf War.

Too bad you can't se what the future would have been if we didn't finally topple Saddam.

You might be saying today,"Why didn't Bush take out Saddam when he had the chance?".

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so this statement here...from the 10-11-00 Bush/Gore presidential debate? would this be a form of dyslexia that causes you to have problems with subject verb conjugation agreement?

Secondly, there is other forms of racial profiling that goes on in America. Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what is called secret evidence. People are stopped, and we have to do something about that. My friend, Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan, is pushing a law to make sure that Arab-Americans are treated with respect. So racial profiling isn't just an issue at local police forces.

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Art:
Too bad you can't se what the future would have been if we didn't finally topple Saddam.

glassman:

i thought we settled that issue Art...
why do you wanna go dragging that up again?

i showed you the Presdiential WMD report...it said that Saddam disarmed when? 91? or 92?

you didn't read the whole assignment did you??? tisk tisk tisk....

Specifically, the NIE assessed that Iraq had reconstituted its nuclear weapons program and could assemble a device by the end of the decade; that Iraq had biological weapons and mobile facilities for producing biological warfare (BW) agent; that Iraq had both renewed production of chemical weapons, and probably had chemical weapons stockpiles of up to 500 metric tons; and that Iraq was developing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) probably intended to deliver BW agent.

These assessments were all wrong.


http://www.wmd.gov/report/report.html#chapter1

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the next paragraph? did you see that one?

This became clear as U.S. forces searched without success for the WMD that the Intelligence Community had predicted. Extensive post-war investigations were carried out by the Iraq Survey Group (ISG). The ISG found no evidence that Iraq had tried to reconstitute its capability to produce nuclear weapons after 1991; no evidence of BW agent stockpiles or of mobile biological weapons production facilities; and no substantial chemical warfare (CW) stockpiles or credible indications that Baghdad had resumed production of CW after 1991. Just about the only thing that the Intelligence Community got right was its pre-war conclusion that Iraq had deployed missiles with ranges exceeding United Nations limitations.

How could the Intelligence Community have been so mistaken? That is the question the President charged this Commission with answering. 2


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
so you get to attend cabinet meetings with him Ramius?

i don't think we should make fun of dubya....
he's got a lot of hard work to do, and it's hard to do, i mean really hard work, you know, keeping appointements and reading everybody elses notes all the time is really tough, but that's what he does, he makes tough decisions the hard way.....

No... I work for a finance company, but it would be fun to attend a cabinet meeting. At least then I would actually know what's going on instead of pretending to know like so many here.
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i agree totally Ramius....

it's difficult sort thru all the PR BS/spin and try to assemble the peices of the puzzle...so many of them just plain don't fit together....

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Actually, no, he didn't, you rearrange context and misquote again.....intentionally, I'm certain. You, see, I was watching that interview too. You have a horrible habit of that. Honesty is elusive. Intelectual integrity?
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"Security is the essential roadblock to achieving the road map to peace." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., July 25, 2003

"I think the American people — I hope the American — I don't think, let me — I hope the American people trust me." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 18, 2002

"There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

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"You see, not only did the attacks help accelerate a recession, the attacks reminded us that we are at war."—Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005


"We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge." —Washington, D.C., April 20, 2005

"We're spending money on clean coal technology. Do you realize we've got 250 million years of coal?"—Washington, D.C., June 8, 2005


that dysarthria sure is rough stuff...

Symptoms

A person with dysarthria may experience any of the following symptoms, depending on the extent and location of damage to the nervous system:

* "slurred" speech
* speaking softly or barely able to whisper
* slow rate of speech
* rapid rate of speech with a "mumbling" quality
* limited tongue, lip, and jaw movement
* abnormal intonation (rhythm) when speaking
* changes in vocal quality ("nasal" speech or sounding "stuffy")
* hoarseness
* breathiness
* drooling or poor control of saliva


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Beethovan was deaf.
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at least he had an excuse... [Big Grin]

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Tips for the Person With Dysarthria

* Introduce your topic with a single word or short phrase before beginning to speak in more complete sentences
* Speak slowly and loudly; pause frequently
* Check with the listeners to make sure that they understand you
* Try to limit conversations when you feel tired, as your speech will be more difficult to understand
* If you become frustrated, try to use other methods, such as pointing or gesturing, to get your message across, or take a rest and try again later
* Don't run for political office

Tips for the Listener

* Control the communication environment by reducing distractions
* Pay attention to the speaker and watch them as they talk
* Be honest and let the speaker know when you have difficulty understanding them
* Repeat the part of the message that you understood so that the speaker does not have to repeat the entire message
* If you are unable to understand the message after repeated attempts, ask yes/no questions or have the speaker write their message to you
* Don't trust a word they say

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"I think it's also important for the president to lay out a timetable as to how long they will be involved and when they will be withdrawn."
--6/3/99, criticizing Clinton for not setting a timetable in Kosovo

"It doesn't make any sense to have a timetable. If you give a timetable, you're conceding too much to the enemy."
--6/24/05, with another flip-flop the media won't publish

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