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AOL is currently doing a poll to determine who is considered the greatest American. The early list of nominees was prepared by the politically correct staff. Here's an analysis of some of the candidates in the original list. (Ref. 1)

1).George Bush Junior-- Egads! Are people really that stupid? There are plenty of bad and forgettable presidents and George Bush is one of the worst. Bush has undermined our rights with the Patriot Act. He has created yet another federal police agency, the Department of Homeland Security, which will one day round up real patriots into concentration camps. He has allowed Zionist neocons to run our foreign policy. Bush is one of the most dim-witted chimps to curse modern politics. He waged a war of aggression -at best- based on his "hunch" that Saddam had Weapons of Mass Destruction. America has fought many unjustified wars throughout our history, but it usually takes a few years or decades before people realize they fought a war for special interests and not American interests. It was obvious to many people even before the Iraq war that the Bush administration was fabricating the case for war. Even more outrageous is the fact that the recently revealed "Downing Street Memo" (Ref. 1) is the "smoking gun" proving beyond any reasonable doubt that the Bush administration deliberately pushed us into an unjustified war.

2).Lance Armstrong-- He's a great athlete, but greatest American?? Hundreds of athletes have won gold medals for the U.S. It's not like our lives have been changed because he rides a bicycle really well.

3).Neil Armstrong-- The first man on the moon. Now that's an improvement. The moon landing was a great historical moment for the US and a triumph of technology.

4).Muhammad Ali-- Black heavyweight boxing champ. Charismatic in his early days, but apparently slowed down by brain damage from one fight too many. Pretty much a politically correct sports hero. Should not be a serious candidate

5).Amelia Earhart-- Early female aviator. Benefited from a rich husband. Scored a few aviation firsts for women. Suffered a number of crashes. Disappeared over the south Pacific.

6).Eleanor Roosevelt-- The epitome of liberal arrogance and a likely closet communist like her equally evil husband. She thought she "knew" what was best for Americans. People like her laid the groundwork for desegregating America, creating quotas and reverse discrimination and ruining the public school system.

7).Bill and Hillary Clinton-- A modern parallel to the Roosevelts, only much more venal and blatantly criminal.

8).Martin Luther King-- A much-worshipped false god of liberalism. King plagiarized his doctoral thesis, frequently solicited prostitutes and preached "racial equality" while laying the grounds for reverse discrimination, which has stolen millions of jobs and promotions from better qualified Whites. This is exactly the sort of "race-based" discrimination that the hypocrite King condemned when it was happening to Blacks.

9).Charles Lindbergh-- One of the best choices. Not only did Lindbergh accomplish a great aviation achievement, the first flight from New York to Paris, he helped design the plane that carried him across the ocean. He bravely entered politics in the 1930s and '40s and tried to keep America out of World War Two --a war that gave central Europe to the Communists and pushed America into its long downward slide into liberal oblivion.

10).Benjamin Franklin-- Another excellent choice. An inventor and great diplomat. Franklin was responsible for winning French support for the Revolution, which proved to be the key to victory.

11).George Washington-- Probably the best choice of the bunch.

The AOL contest has narrowed down to the final five contestants which are: Lincoln, Franklin, Washington, Ronald Reagan and Martin Luther King. At least all the PC candidates except one have been eliminated.

If America does survive the next hundred years and the White race isn't exterminated through race-mixing, then there will be a much more interesting list of candidates for the greatest American. Political dissidents, who were persecuted and even thrown in jail, will become serious candidates for "greatest American" and criminals like Franklin Delano Roosevelt or Martin Luther King will not even be nominated

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what about Thomas Edison? our whole society today revolves around his works...

i particularly liked his attitude:

"Genius is 1 percent
inspiration and 99 percent perspiration."

he was a bit of a cut-thraot in biz, but heck that's the key to success ain't it? [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Sgt. Steiner:
11).George Washington-- Probably the best choice of the bunch.

Agreed. Some of the others are not bad choices, would have been a little more fair on my opinions.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
what about Thomas Edison? our whole society today revolves around his works...

i particularly liked his attitude:

"Genius is 1 percent
inspiration and 99 percent perspiration."

he was a bit of a cut-thraot in biz, but heck that's the key to success ain't it? [Big Grin]

Another good one
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I'm going with Ktrain.
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I think Art should be in there as well
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Tashunkewitko - Chief Crazy Horse

"A very great vision is needed and the man who has
it must follow it as the eagle seeks the deepest
blue of the sky. I was hostile to the white
man...we preferred hunting to a life of idleness on
our reservations. At times we did not get enough to
eat and we were not allowed to hunt. All we wanted
was peace and to be left alone. Soldiers came and
destroyed our villages. Then Long Hair came...They
say we massacred him, but he would have done the
same to us. Our first impulse was to escape but we
were so hemmed in we had to fight."

http://www.indians.org/welker/crazyhor.htm

His words are an icon of the American spirit.

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whats up with some of these choices the clintons WTF.

now i like armstrong but the greates american, I really like him cuz he kicks ass in france too thats a bonus.

ali ? punching the crap out of people, changing name to muhammed, i like him but...

man on the moon BFD.

i'd get started with some doctors even foreigners that helped stop the plaques diseases etc..........and I AM NOT A METROSEXUAL but c'mon how bout babe ruth or jordan WTF.

priorities all f'd up. oh well, nuttin knew

aviation, who cares throw them out, just watched the aviator now i'm pulling the stick out of my eye.

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quote:
Originally posted by keithsan:
whats up with some of these choices the clintons WTF.

now i like armstrong but the greates american, I really like him cuz he kicks ass in france too thats a bonus.

ali ? punching the crap out of people, changing name to muhammed, i like him but...

man on the moon BFD.

i'd get started with some doctors even foreigners that helped stop the plaques diseases etc..........and I AM NOT A METROSEXUAL but c'mon how bout babe ruth or jordan WTF.

priorities all f'd up. oh well, nuttin knew

aviation, who cares throw them out, just watched the aviator now i'm pulling the stick out of my eye.

I agree with most of your comments keithsan...except for the nominating "foreign" doctors part. Somehow I just don't think they would meet the criteria for "Greatest American" [Big Grin]

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Jonas Salk would be a good candidate...

April 12, 2005, marks the 50th anniversary of the announcement that the polio vaccine, developed by Jonas Salk and his team of scientists at the University of Pittsburgh, worked. "Safe, effective, and potent" were the words used to announce to the world that an effective vaccine had been found against a disease that once paralyzed 13,000--20,000 persons each year in the United States.

In 1979, fewer than 25 years after introduction of the vaccine, the last indigenously acquired case of polio caused by wild poliovirus was detected in the United States; 15 years later, in 1994, the Western Hemisphere was certified polio-free.


a lot more were left crippled but not paralysed, and his techniques were applied to many other vaccines...

In 1952, the most severe polio epidemic year on record, more than 57,800 people were stricken with the disease. The images of youngsters in wheelchairs, on crutches, or in unwieldy "iron lungs" responsible for their every breath, haunted parents.


the US population in 1960 was about half what it is today.....so you can double the numbers or more due to increases in population density...

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Ben Franklin is the only person born in the US (or what became the US) that is ranked with the very very best minds ever. He's ranked with Einstein, Newton, Plato, Da Vinci etc. It is sad that we in the US aren't taught the true depth and breadth of one of the great geniouses in all history.

Today on the news, they noted the passing of the inventor of the integrated circuit, a man named Kilby (I can't recall his first name). Just a few years ago I saw important scientific committees suggesting he was perhaps the most influencial inventor of all time because of the overwhelming results of the devices we have after resulting from his work. But, I want to point out, that a far more fundamental discovery and one essential to Kilby's work was the "capacitor", or "laden jar" as the man who explained it's mysteries called it. Of course, that was Franklin, to whom we also owe the first descriptions of the very mechanisms we call electric circuits. Along with the laden jar, Franklin invented the idea of electricity "flowing" through a conductor and not flowing through an insulator; designated the "+" and "-" we use even today for the scheme of a circuit; and invented several of the early electric "generators". If Kilby is responsible for modern world of communication, then it was Farnklin that was responsible for Kilby.

Franklin was the first person ever to concieve of currents in the oceans and proved the existance of the Gulf Stream by compiling data from the logs of voyages of thousands of wind driven ships, then pointed out the King George that it made effectively impossible supplying from England an army large enough to bring the Colonies to heel. It was from the ideas of Franklin that the first meterological studies began and from his work on the gulf stream that the data collection to develop the field was modeled.

These are only a few of the contributions of the man. It seems sad that outside the US, school children are taught of his works, while we ignore them and present him to our own school children as if he were only a politician and publisher of an almanac.

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quote:
Originally posted by Purl Gurl:
Tashunkewitko - Chief Crazy Horse

"A very great vision is needed and the man who has
it must follow it as the eagle seeks the deepest
blue of the sky. I was hostile to the white
man...we preferred hunting to a life of idleness on
our reservations. At times we did not get enough to
eat and we were not allowed to hunt. All we wanted
was peace and to be left alone. Soldiers came and
destroyed our villages. Then Long Hair came...They
say we massacred him, but he would have done the
same to us. Our first impulse was to escape but we
were so hemmed in we had to fight."

http://www.indians.org/welker/crazyhor.htm

His words are an icon of the American spirit.

B-O-O H-O-O Our people attacked unarmed white settlers robbed and murdered them. Then we cry and whine when the military shows us the same treatment Quote by Cheif whatever
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An Open Letter To Illegal Aliens

It wasn't that those old Indians
had such bad immigration laws,
It's just that you
European wetbacks came
in such vast numbers,
the Sioux and Comanche border patrol
couldn't keep up.

find some treaties that got honored...lol--you'll be up awhile

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eurowetbacks? LOL,or saltywasps???

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never liked the term, WASP: Isn't "White" "Anglo" redundant? why not ASPs? Asps are *really* salty!

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Hey, I didn't know that. I never ate an asp to learn it. I never thought of it. I have had fried grasshopper and chocolate covered cockroaches and crickets. Ummmmmm....boy!
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quote:
Originally posted by BuyTex:
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quote:
An Open Letter To Illegal Aliens

It wasn't that those old Indians
had such bad immigration laws,
It's just that you
European wetbacks came
in such vast numbers,
the Sioux and Comanche border patrol
couldn't keep up.

find some treaties that got honored...lol--you'll be up awhile
Indian tribes had many wars with each other took each others land and killed there fellow indian. Why is it so appauling that whites came and joined in? Oh thats right because they were white how could I forget that
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Might makes right.

The whites and hispanics were right to take the Americas away from Indians because they could and did.

The hispanics are right to annex SW USA because they are doing it.

There is no differnce between morality, business, politics and war.

Politics, business and war always reach moral goals since power always wins.

Might makes right.

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illuminated, i'm sure.

Art, so when the gang (whatever stripe) invades a (your) home/car/neighborhood, commits mayhem (rape, theft, murder...et al), it's ok because they had "might" at the time? Bullies win! Forget the Constitution--get a bigger bat...
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* Tex whispers aside...*

to stripped-of-stripes, ex-sgt: "Branded, you go, girl!"

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