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Hillary Clinton has taken off the soft silk gloves of the moderate Senator Clinton and put on her strident Democratic iron-fisted gauntletfull with nails and claws ready for the fight.
Not for the Presidency 2008 for which she has been groomed. But for her Senate run, her platform to stay in the limelight.
There is little doubt that Hillary is taking on the Republican forces in 2006 as a prelude to her run for the Presidential seal in 2008.
At a recent fundraiser which netted her a cool quarter of a million, the former first lady went on a tirade against the Republicans. Her statements make one wonder whether the real Hillary has taken off her robe and jumped into the ring.
Over the past fourteen years, we have gotten to know Mrs. Clinton from various angles. We remember the first lady who wouldnt hold the hand of her husband Bill Clinton after he admitted his disloyalty. We remember the loyal wife who blamed the right-wing conspiracy for drumming up lies about Monica Lewinsky and her man Bill. And we remember the new look Hillary who appeared on Sixty Minutes during the Gennifer Flowers affair revelation. We have always been amazed how a change of hairstyle and position of power could create a new persona.
That was the Hillary of old who stood by her man until her man stood her up in public.
But now Senator Clinton is running for re-election in her adopted state. To stay in power she needs to show the Hillary the Tough. Her recent statements have sealed that stance and perhaps her fate:
Here are some of the remarks she made at the fundraiser:
"There has never been an administration, I donīt believe in our history, more intent upon consolidating and abusing power to further their own agenda."
"I know itīs frustrating for many of you, itīs frustrating for me. Why canīt the Democrats do more to stop them?" "I can tell you this: Itīs very hard to stop people who have no shame about what theyīre doing. It is very hard to tell people that they are making decisions that will undermine our checks and balances and constitutional system of government who donīt care. It is very hard to stop people who have never been acquainted with the truth."
"We canīt ever, ever give in to the Republican agenda," she said. "It isnīt good for New York and it isnīt good for America."
"Some honestly believe they are motivated by the truth, they are motivated by a higher calling, they are motivated by, I guess, a direct line to the heavens."
"Itīs shocking when you see how easily they fold in the media today .They donīt stand their ground. If theyīre criticized by the White House, they just fall apart
"I mean, cīmon, toughen up, guys, itīs only our Constitution and country at stake."
This is the Hillary, the partisan, not Hillary the good wife who has been done wrong. She is her own person and is making her own bed. She was not one of the Gang of 14 who broke bread together for the good of the Senate and the country in the spirit of compromise. Whether her words ring with elements of truth, she is stuck with them now and forever and forever means past 2006.
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NEW YORK Jun 7, 2005 Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton criticized the Bush administration's record on unemployment, women's rights and the environment, saying it is "intent upon consolidating and abusing power."
"We are living in a time when the other side doesn't want us to see the facts. Facts are inconvenient facts about global warming, facts about mercury in the air, facts about people staying unemployed longer," said Clinton, considered a Democratic contender for the presidency in 2008.
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"There has never been an administration, I don't believe, in our history more intent upon consolidating and abusing power to further their own agenda," she said of President Bush.
"Whether it's the right to organize and be part of the American labor movement whether it's the right to be able to be have a choice when it comes to the most private and intimate decisions that a woman has to make, whether it is to protect the environment whatever it is that we slowly but surely built up during the 20th century, this current administration and their allies in Congress want to turn the clock back on all of that," Clinton said.
Karen Matthews, Associated Press Writer
"... facts about mercury in the air...."
Didn't I tell you boys about Bush and Co. spewing mercury, lead, arsenic and other toxins into our fragile environment for the sake of money?
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I can't get all worked up about politics anymore, to me there is no difference between the Bush camp and the Clintons; they are both in bed with each other(have you noticed that Bill and Bush Sr. have been joined at the hip lately?)We have what appears to be a 1 party system and I believe that the Clintons will be back in power in 2008. What we should stop is the wasting of tax payers money with these ridiculous National Conventions.
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I know I'm steppin in it--BUT, Mag has a great point. I shun even talk politics in context where your bid/ask might whack mine...when the focus is let's all profit. BUT Mag hits a salient point: namely, the difference in a Demo vs Repub power structure really, actually, really, amounts to me buying at ,0018 or .0019 on a runner. There is NO difference to the worker...We all know the break-through technologies are within reach...fuel-cells, solar, wind, combination +...if we REALLY want true political change, you have to stand up EVERYDAY and demand it. Otherwise, "they" fool you like a punk-magician: "Hey, I just pulled a HAT from a RABBIT! and you Don't Like It!"
If you're serious about change, effect it in your neighborhood. Then work outward. Otherwise, keep believing there's a difference between a Dem & Rep.
Make your congress/person answer you on a personal level. Call the SEC. Coach a soccer team. Buy a kid a pair of shoes...Quit waITINg for someone else to fix it.
Ok, thas my rant...
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quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: Good rant Tex, however, so many of us are lazy, or worse yet cowards to do anything about it....
I'm not (a coward) so maybe thas it--and you know you got my vote--yet must say I'm one of the winningest rec coaches in the state. changed my neighborhood from gang-ridden to barely gang-influenced--with a lot of help--just by getting out there and trucking kids around. It bugs me when peeps say, "aaaaaw, weelll, what can I do?"
My answer is plenty. Do something, even if it aint the "best" answer. Quit waiting on the best answer--DO something...
repeat, D, you know you got my respect...
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dustoff101: [qb] Good rant Tex, however, so many of us are lazy, or worse yet cowards to do anything about it....
I'm not (a coward) so maybe thas it--and you know you got my vote--yet must say I'm one of the winningest rec coaches in the state. changed my neighborhood from gang-ridden to barely gang-influenced--with a lot of help--just by getting out there and trucking kids around. It bugs me when peeps say, "aaaaaw, weelll, what can I do?"
My answer is plenty. Do something, even if it aint the "best" answer. Quit waiting on the best answer--DO something...
repeat, D, you know you got my respect...
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Wow Tex, you read that wrong, was'nt talking about ya..........Some how I knew you would be involved in the community.....You come accross like a stand up guy.........I don't agree with ya all the time, but maybe ya'll miss read my post.
quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Dustoff101: [qb] Good rant Tex, however, so many of us are lazy, or worse yet cowards to do anything about it....
I'm not (a coward) so maybe thas it--and you know you got my vote--yet must say I'm one of the winningest rec coaches in the state. changed my neighborhood from gang-ridden to barely gang-influenced--with a lot of help--just by getting out there and trucking kids around. It bugs me when peeps say, "aaaaaw, weelll, what can I do?"
My answer is plenty. Do something, even if it aint the "best" answer. Quit waiting on the best answer--DO something...
repeat, D, you know you got my respect...
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Wow Tex, you read that wrong, was'nt talking about ya..........Some how I knew you would be involved in the community.....You come accross like a stand up guy.........I don't agree with ya all the time, but maybe ya'll miss read my post.
Or I'm miss reading your's!!
nooo, I know you're NOT busting me. I'm reacting to the "maybe we're too lazy" train of thought. I'm saying peeps caint logically pi$$ n moan about results, unless they're involved in creating results. thas all...
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It's time for a screw driver, and I'm not talking about the one with a handle.......Got to get my vitamin C....Lot's of vitamin C..
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If Hillary is elected? The entire World will shudder under the weight of those hidious thunder thighs..............
Bubba will never get free of her, he'll have to swim in the white house pool with her..........The sight of her in a bikini may frighten him into another heart attack.........
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Bill as First...what? First Husband? First Man? First Gentleman? I'm endorsing it on that angle alone... gawd, I wish Sam Kinisson were still alive...
So who you supporting, Dusty...Cathy Zeta-Jones Douglas?
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Bill Clinton is a human magnet..I actually saw him once..What a salesman.
Tex, I don't have a clue who is worthy of my single little vote..I take my vote very seriously and there fore I can not answer your question at this time.
I will tell you this..In the coming election I will be involved in a neutral get out and vote campaign..........
I did not register to vote untill I was in my fortys.........My first vote gave me a feeling of enpowerment..I could actually make a statement that meant something.
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I thought Bill was the best "speaker" ie, orator we've had since JFK.
I have passed on several elections because a difference that makes no diference is no difference. Yet, there is no valid reason for the disparity of wealth in this country, and I don't mean individual "losers," but eg, an entire class of working folk who've had their pensions/401Ks/savings et al RIPPED from beneath their mattresses as though from home-invasion gangs with sawed-off shotguns...
For example, when I was in DC at the start of this war? Choppers of every stripe in the air, mosquito news-choppers, then the state big boys, then the military Mothras...THUMP THUMP THUMP...below are protesters: "Oh don't kill those poor Iraqui thugs!"
As I'm careening through the protesters, I'm thinking, "Where the f were you when Bush, Inc stole the election in Florida?" kinda late, now...we're in it. I got guys dodging bullets.
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But even here in Arkansas, the voters and citizens think Bush has so many good morals. Bush is a liar and thief. Dick Channey is even worse. I have not been the same since the November election, because I hate Bush so bad!!!!!!!!!!
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just wanted to see if she had more than "i hate"
Hey, wily, do you get Atlantic Monthly? Pretty interesting sidebar on Hillary'c chances...if you don't get it, I'll type it in...haven't checked their Web site...
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Where's Bill gonna hide his cigars, heck with the cigars where's Bill gonna hide with the interns? I just thought of something , he already knows where to hide the cigars!!;'.;';'.,'
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Dusty, actually, you are dead on. He knows where to hide *everything", cigars includeded. if Hillary makes the D echo equivalant to the Reagan-Bush cartel,SUDDENLY, she gets insights to questions she's barely imagined before, just as Dubya could not get the party line until he NSS'd into office....
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Hmmm, well if, dare I say it, Hillary is elected to the Big Seat in '08, we as shareholders should profit nicely as very little of her agenda will get approved during her term I believe. Full fledged bull market would be on the horizon.
The House and Senate will be sided toward Conservative/Republican. This will keep many bills, and laws unpassed. A nice stability in Washington will occur that would cause the stock market to soar.
If I am wrong, monkeys will fly outta my butt.
The good thing is, I guess we'll never find out for certain IMHO.
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Our enemys would look apon us as week, because of the massive military cuts she would pencil..
The markets would go into a tailspin, out of general fear.
Hillary hates the Military, she has some kind of dim witted as well as dull light bulb out look on military power..She believe's everyone else in the World should have a strong military but us....
Otherwise you are correct...If the Clintons wouldn't of been all tied up in scandals and able to put all they're social plans into effect there would not have been a Bull market..
Hillarys socialised Health plan would of stopped the Reagan and Bush # 1 recovery.
The military complex was allowed to run down to incredible low levels under Bill Clinton..Moral was down to Viet Nam era levels...If Hillary and crew were ever allowed to get they're cold socialilistic hands on power at that magnitude, well our collective goose would be cooked..
People just don't understand that Clinton let the military go to seed...They saved tons of money that way..
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An unlikely pair of Senate allies called for a larger military Sunday and pledged a thorough investigation of abuse against Iraqi prisoners in Baghdad.
Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, and Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, are both members of the Senate's Armed Services Committee.
"A number of us have been sounding this alarm. We have to face the fact we need a larger active-duty military," Clinton told the television show "Fox News Sunday."
"We cannot continue to stretch our troops, both active-duty, Guard and Reserve, to the breaking point, which is what we're doing now."
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Purl Gurl: [QB] WASHINGTON (CNN) -- An unlikely pair of Senate allies called for a larger military Sunday and pledged a thorough investigation of abuse against Iraqi prisoners in Baghdad.
Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-New York, and Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, are both members of the Senate's Armed Services Committee.
"A number of us have been sounding this alarm. We have to face the fact we need a larger active-duty military," Clinton told the television show "Fox News Sunday."
"We cannot continue to stretch our troops, both active-duty, Guard and Reserve, to the breaking point, which is what we're doing now."
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Horse feathers, to try and get traction the politicion [ Hillary ] will say anything....
The democrats are in an orgy of mis information at present................
She will say or do anything to get elected.... Her merry band of followers would follow her to Jonestown and drink Kool-Aide if she told um to.
People in the democratic party don't want or understand the truth when it is put in front of um anymore. All they want to do is hate the Bush administration and the republican party.......................
Good grief Purl, look at that idiot chairman of the DNC.............
All Dean is capable of doing is advocating hate...
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Indeed, you do not have to look far back into history for a glimpse of how women handle matters of military and war.
Recall what Margaret Thatcher did to Argentina during the Falkland Islands incident, in which Argentina tried to seize control of the islands.
Thatcher moved her royal military over there within days, kick rearend every which way but loose, and while doing that advised Argentina, if they were to interfere, she would wrap them in newspaper then stomp them into the ground.
Never underestimate a woman's redress.
We are deviously conniving and will wait for the best opportune time for just deserves. A man, like draft dodger Bush, when his ego is affronted will instantly engage in fisticuffs, most stupidly. A woman will wait until her opponent believes himself victorious and is masturbating his ego. Then, and only then, will a woman bitch slap him.
A man's most frequently made mistake is forgetting women are Femme Fatales, but not always in a charming manner.
"...Success in the war rescued the Thatcher government from the depths of unpopularity, enabling it to remain in power for another 15 years. The military junta of General Leopoldo Galtieri in Argentina did not fare so well, collapsing when its war effort failed, underlining the economic and social chaos in the country...."
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