1. There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq during January... In the fair city of Detroit there were 35 murders in the month of January. That's just one American city, about as deadly as the entire war torn country of Iraq .
2. When some claim President Bush shouldn't have started this war, state the following:
a. FDR...led us into World War II. b. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. c. Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year. d. John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. e. Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. f. Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. g. In the years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chapaquiddick
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high! The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
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JOHN GLENN (ON THE SENATE FLOOR) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:13
Some people still don't understand why military personnel do what they do for a living. This exchange between Senators John Glenn and Senator Howard Metzenbaum is worth reading. Not only is it a pretty impressive impromptu speech, but it's also a good example of one man's explanation of why men and women in the armed services do what they do for a living.
This IS a typical, though sad, example of what some who have never served think of the military.
Senator Metzenbaum (speaking to Senator Glenn): "How can you run for Senate when you've never held a real job?"
Senator Glenn (D-Ohio): "I served 23 years in the United States Marine Corps. I served through two wars. I flew 149 missions. My plane was hit by anti-aircraft fire on 12 different occasions. I was in the space program. It wasn't my checkbook, Howard; it was my life on the line. It was not a nine-to-five job, where I took time off to take the daily cash receipts to the bank."
"I ask you to go with me ... as I went the other day... to a veteran's hospital and look those men - with their mangled bodies - in the eye, and tell THEM they didn't hold a job! You go with me to the Space Program at NASA and go, as I have gone, to the widows and Orphans of Ed White, Gus Grissom and Roger Chaffee... and you look those kids in the eye and tell them that their DADS didn't hold a job. You go with me on Memorial Day and you stand in Arlington National Cemetery, where I have more friends buried than I'd like to remember, and you watch those waving flags.
You stand there, and you think about this nation, and you tell ME that those people didn't have a job? I'll tell you, Howard Metzenbaum; you should be on your knees every day of your life thanking God that there were some men - SOME MEN - who held REAL jobs. And they required a dedication to a purpose - and a love of country and a dedication to duty - that was more important than life itself. And their self-sacrifice is what made this country possible. I HAVE held a job, Howard! What about you?"
For those who don't remember - During W.W.II, Howard Metzenbaum was an attorney representing the Communist Party in the USA. Now he's a Senator!
If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you are reading it in English thank a Veteran.
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LOL, tell Valerie Plame about it.... hmmm can't seem to find anything RECENT about that case....wonder why?
Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
--Opening passage: Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.)
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put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot,
hmmmmm.....
a. FDR...led us into World War II. b. Germany never attacked us: Japan did. From 1941-1945, 450,000 lives were lost, an average of 112,500 per year. c. Truman...finished that war and started one in Korea. North Korea never attacked us. From 1950-1953, 55,000 lives were lost, an average of 18,334 per year. d. John F. Kennedy. ..started the Vietnam conflict in 1962. Vietnam never attacked us. e. Johnson...turned Vietnam into a quagmire. From 1965-1975, 58,000 lives were lost, an average of 5,800 per year. f. Clinton...went to war in Bosnia without UN or French consent. Bosnia never attacked us. He was offered Osama bin Laden's head on a platter three times by Sudan and did nothing Osama has attacked us on multiple occasions. g. In the years since terrorists attacked us President Bush has liberated two countries, crushed the Taliban, crippled al-Qaida, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without firing a shot, and captured a terrorist who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people.
The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
We've been looking for evidence of chemical weapons in Iraq for less time than it took Hillary Clinton to find the Rose Law Firm billing records.
It took less time for the 3rd Infantry Division and the Marines to destroy the Medina Republican Guard than it took Ted Kennedy to call the police after his Oldsmobile sank at Chapaquiddick
It took less time to take Iraq than it took to count the votes in Florida!!!!
Our Commander-In-Chief is doing a GREAT JOB! The Military morale is high! The biased media hopes we are too ignorant to realize the facts.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL, tell Valerie Plame about it.... hmmm can't seem to find anything RECENT about that case....wonder why?
Whoever, having or having had authorized access to classified information that identifies a covert agent, intentionally discloses any information identifying such covert agent to any individual not authorized to receive classified information, knowing that the information disclosed so identifies such covert agent and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States, shall be fined not more than $50,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
--Opening passage: Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 (50 U.S.C. 421 et seq.)
becuase ther was no case it was all liberal propaganda and spin....
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Robert Novack didn't OUT Valerie Plame? you are in denial.....
Who denied this? Why is this an issue with any of my posts?
because Art, there is no liberal VS conservative spin on my mind... i watch and learn, and YES, i take spin into consideration, but the intel community has taken the blame for something they didn't do...
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the last time i drank kool-aid was over twenty years ago now...
i put two packets in a quart of cheap vodka no water, straight in to the bottle, and i don't remember sharing it at all(but i might have)... it was red going in and red coming out....all over the place...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Robert Novack didn't OUT Valerie Plame? you are in denial.....
Who denied this? Why is this an issue with any of my posts?
because Art, there is no liberal VS conservative spin on my mind... i watch and learn, and YES, i take spin into consideration, but the intel community has taken the blame for something they didn't do...
That sure sounds like spin to me!
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Art? if you count "terrorist activity " in Iraq? there is more now than EVER before, and we need to address the issue head-on instead of "spinning" it all the time... i am not saying pull out, and i never have...
i am saying get you're head out of the sand and LOOK at the problem for what it IS, not what you wish it could be.......
so far? the "plan" has failed, and it's because the politicians booted everybody that disagreed with them....that's not SPIN....
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: Robert Novack didn't OUT Valerie Plame? you are in denial.....
Who denied this? Why is this an issue with any of my posts?
because Art, there is no liberal VS conservative spin on my mind... i watch and learn, and YES, i take spin into consideration, but the intel community has taken the blame for something they didn't do...
That sure sounds like spin to me!
many many intel people said invading Iraq was a mistake.. before we went in... they were shouted down.... you just don't remember
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you will not reduce terrorism. how? why? there is no fear of death or being caught. 30 years ago it was as prevalent as today. Humans are a waste of space. we are a violent, blood-thirsty, money-hungry species. just because the idiot we have leading this country yells cliched' phrases about patriotism, all the sheep have to jump on the bandwagon and cheer for him and his oil buddies. i cant believe ppl still support this moron. terrorist fight back the only way they know how. thats with their lives. they believe in what they do with their entire being. it is in their blood.
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>>>The Democrats are complaining about how long the war is taking, but...It took less time to take Iraq than it took Janet Reno to take the Branch Davidian compound. That was a 51-day operation.
IMHO, My feelings on the war: democrat/republican, liberal/conservative, black/white whomevers blood spills when fighting in these wars. So I generally try to respect them even when I do not agree with views.
Not so much questioning the length of the war but how effective it's been. No Bin Laden caught, mission not accomplished, but I hope they catch him soon! Then we can all say what a great job what president it maybe did sitting on his ass back in DC. Lol.
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glassman: Art? if you count "terrorist activity " in Iraq? there is more now than EVER before, and we need to address the issue head-on instead of "spinning" it all the time... i am not saying pull out, and i never have...
Art: There is much, much less now than there was in 2001.
Glassman: I am saying get you're head out of the sand and LOOK at the problem for what it IS, not what you wish it could be.......
Art: Yes, this is my advice to you. Terrorism is being defeated month by month. Soon it will be rare acts on a sporadic basis.
Glassman: so far? the "plan" has failed, and it's because the politicians booted everybody that disagreed with them....that's not SPIN....
Art: The plan is succeeding. Palestinians are making peace with Israel, the Iraqis are getting control of the terrorists fighting them, and yes, democracy and peace are coming to the mideast.
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: you will not reduce terrorism. how? why? there is no fear of death or being caught. 30 years ago it was as prevalent as today. Humans are a waste of space. we are a violent, blood-thirsty, money-hungry species. just because the idiot we have leading this country yells cliched' phrases about patriotism, all the sheep have to jump on the bandwagon and cheer for him and his oil buddies. i cant believe ppl still support this moron. terrorist fight back the only way they know how. thats with their lives. they believe in what they do with their entire being. it is in their blood.
See my post above.
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Art: The plan is succeeding. Palestinians are making peace with Israel, the Iraqis are getting control of the terrorists fighting them, and yes, democracy and peace are coming to the mideast.
glassman: democracy in the mid-east does NOT mean peace...this is pure propaganda....
we can't leave Iraq Art(in the foreseeable future)...i think you know this too...
this is WHY i pointed out the Paki/India issue...
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Art: The plan is succeeding. Palestinians are making peace with Israel, the Iraqis are getting control of the terrorists fighting them, and yes, democracy and peace are coming to the mideast.
Glassman: democracy in the mid-east does NOT mean peace...this is pure propaganda....
Art: Wars are started by dictators. True, Hitler was elected but this was early on, and he soon assumed dictorial powers with no more elections, and then led Germany to war.
Democratic governments do not start wars.
Glassman: we can't leave Iraq Art(in the foreseeable future)...i think you know this too...
Art: No, the plan is to leave by the year's end, but I would like us to keep a military presence in the mideast for years, to prevent Israel from being attacked by other Arab nations.
Glassman: ...this is WHY i pointed out the Paki/India issue...
Art: Never saw any relevence - please explain it.
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