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The Stage for WWIII Is Set; America Takes the Fall
by HENRY MAKOW, PhD

Something very worrisome is happening. Some of Rockefeller's best toadies oppose the Iraq war. But Rockefeller and his ilk are responsible for this war. What gives?

It appears the global elite is dividing its minions into two "house teams" again.

The last time this happened we had the Fascist-Communist slugfest called World War Two.

The same satanic cabal controlled both sides and picked Germany to take the fall.

This time, the U.S., Britain and the "coalition of the willing" are on one side.

On the other are France, Germany, Russia and China. The centre of global power is moving to China, Europe and Russia. I see a world war over Korea, or more likely Iran and control of Middle East oil. The U.S., overextended from Kuwait to Korea, will come up short.

My guess is that the US will find itself increasingly isolated and vilified as a result of the Iraq war. I suspect the hidden agenda is to bring down the world's last superpower; to replace the UN with a new instrument of "world government"; to kill a lot of people, and to wean Americans off democracy and their high standard of living.

GLOBALISTS AGAINST THE IRAQ WAR?

Jimmy Carter, Nelson Mandela, George Soros, Mikail Gorbachev and Walter Cronkite are all globalist elder statesmen-for-hire. Curiously, they all oppose the Iraq war.

Jimmy Carter, a creation of Rockefeller's "Trilateral Commission" publicly supported more UN inspections. Mikhail Gorbachev said the war is a big mistake. Nelson Mandela called it a "tragedy" and warned Bush was plunging "the world into a holocaust."

Financial maven George Soros said:" The Bush doctrine is grounded in power; legality and legitimacy are decorations." Finally, Walter Cronkite, who is linked to (www.worldaffairscouncils.org/Patrons.htm Rockefeller's CFR) warned:

"We are going to be in such a fix when this war is over, or before this war is over. Our grandchildren's grandchildren are going to be paying for this war. I look at our future as, I'm sorry, being very dark."

The leaders of Russia, France, Germany and China also voiced opposition with uncharacteristic bluntness. They must have the OK of the global money masters.

"Military action ... is a big mistake," Vladimir Putin said. " Iraq has presented no danger..." China urged the US and Britain to halt their military actions.

France, Russia and Germany all refused a U.S. request to close their Iraqi embassies. North Korea apparently is preparing for war.

Even in England, major newspapers like "The Mirror" have been scathing in their criticism of Tony Blair. British newspapers belong to the same clan. I suspect England will defect to Europe's side before this fiasco is over.

PARALLELS TO WORLD WAR TWO

Before World War Two, a faction of the British elite built up Hitler. This was known as the "policy of appeasement."

After Hitler fell into the trap of attacking Poland, they did a "sleight of hand" and replaced the accommodating Chamberlain with the defiant Churchill.

Iraq is a similar trap. The United States has squandered the sympathy and good will it earned on Sept 11.

The images of the World Trade Centre have been replaced in the world's mind by the spectacular explosions in Baghdad.

The US comes across as a bully too cowardly to pick on anyone its own side. Notch this victory up beside its thrashings of Grenada, Panama and Serbia.

The gloating by US TV commentators is particularly distasteful to the outside world

The damage to America's moral authority is incalculable.

After this war, who will have sympathy for Americans if Chinese atomic bombs rain down on Los Angeles and New York? The devil degrades his victims before he destroys them.

ELITE TREASON

For almost 100 years, the American leadership class has belonged to an international cabal that is determined to dissolve all human loyalties, including the nation state, and establish a global tyranny. George Bush, who is part of this cabal, has led the American people into a trap.

Who in their right mind would deliberately alienate 1.3 billion Muslims? Of course Hussein is a bad man but this is not the motive.

The U.S. is acting as gofer for the Zionists and the oil cartels, two leading parts of the cabal. They will come out ahead while Americans will foot the bill and take the brunt of Muslim indignation.

Can the U.S. even count on Israel?

At his trial, Israeli Spy Jonathon Pollard was called "the greatest traitor in the history of the United States" (Gordon Thomas, Seeds of Fire, p.31-32).

In the words of CIA Director George Tenet, Pollard, an American Jew, stole "every worthwhile intelligence secret we have." In the year prior to his arrest in Nov. 1986, Pollard transmitted "over 360 cubic feet of top secret paper to Israel," his trial was told.

According to Thomas, Israel's Mossad routinely trades information and technology with China's Secret Intelligence Service. (482)

Pollard's information could have commanded a pretty price. Thomas says the theft from Los Alamos of the last 50 years of US nuclear research was also a joint Mossad-Chinese operation (33). He says an Israeli team inspected the American EP-3 spy plane the Chinese forced down in April 2001. (487)

But Israeli espionage must be seen in the context of the treachery of the American political elite in general. During the Clinton Administration, there was massive transfer of critical military technology to China.

For example, in late 1994 the Chinese bought and dismantled a McDonnell Douglas plant in Columbus OH that allowed them to produce ultra-modern airplanes and silkworm cruise missiles.

This technology transfer is continuing under the Bush Administration. Consider the recent sale to China of a GM plant in Valparaiso IN, laying off hundreds of workers and moving sophisticated equipment used for making smart bombs.

This transfer of nuclear and other technology to China is reminiscent of what took place after World War Two when secrets of the atom bomb were provided to Russia. (See George Jordan USAF (ret) From Major Jordan's Diaries 1952.)

Can you see the pattern? Russia and China belong the cabal and are being used to subjugate the United States.

China is to be the new hub because its people are already used to tyranny.

In another parallel with the past, American industry is relocating to China and other low-cost countries.

At least 3.3 million US white-collar jobs and $136 billion in wages will shift there by 2015. (See The New American magazine, March 10, 2003).

Similarly, Wall Street invested heavily in Nazi Germany in the 1930's. Standard Oil (through subsidiary I.G. Farben), General Motors, Ford, ITT and IBM were mainstays of the Nazi war machine.

In conclusion, while Americans are distracted by jingoism and jiggle, they are being set up for a nasty fall.

The leadership class has already "left the building" as it were.

The end of the Iraq war will find the United States isolated and reviled.

As the Bush cabal tries to push its advantage, it will come into conflict with China and other nuclear powers.

A major confrontation will ensue and an overextended US will be humbled.

Americans will take a greatly reduced place in a new world order.

Americans should direct their anger not at their country but against their political and cultural elite, which is corrupt, cowardly, and traitorous.

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We are always at war with each other all of the time.

Nations compete economically and politically, when not militarily.

France, Germany, and Russia were supplying Saddam with goods and weapons, including materials for WMD. In return they got sweetheart deals for oil. They did not stop Sadam when he wanted to invade Kuwait, on the way to invading Saudi Arabia later, since this would cut out oil for the US, causing the US economic depression, while raisng the economy of French, Germany, and Russia.


We put a stop to this political-economic attack on us by France, Germany, and Russia, and invaded Iraq over objections of countries in bed with Saddam.

Now we have a major influence in the mideast, will get sweetheart oil deals, and this will hurt guess which countries? Those spesking out agaainst us, and their liberal friends in the US like yourself.

Liberals are trying to destroy this country, knowingly or unknowingly.

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Art you sound like a broken record...

keep repeating rumors long enough and they become "truth"


NO WMD in Iraq period. certified/verified by the Pentagon... LOL

[ March 24, 2005, 02:13: Message edited by: Art ]

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the sad part here Art, is that we fought WW2 to stop "naked aggression"

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We put a stop to this political-economic attack on us by France, Germany, and Russia, and invaded Iraq over objections of countries in bed with Saddam.

US corps had interests there too at that time just like they do in Iran NOW.....

now? we have it ALL don't we? LOL....

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Art you sound like a broken record...

keep repeating rumors long enough and they become "truth"


NO WMD in Iraq period. certified/verified by the Pentagon... LOL

Saddam once had WMD, used them against Iran and the Kurds in Iraq, and was close to having an atomic bomb just before we repelled him from Kuwait in the Desert Storm war.

True or False?

2. No one knows if there are WMD in Iraq. We do know that they have not found any yet.

Is this true or false?

3. Just before the US invasion, Iraqi trucks were observed to be hastily transporting something to Syria.

Is this true or false?

These trucks could have contained Saddam's WMD - no one can validly argue agains this.


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
the sad part here Art, is that we fought WW2 to stop "naked aggression"

Are you saying we should have let Hitler and Japan take over the world? What are you suggesting otherwise? Perhaps moaning about war as the liberals do - "Oh why can't we get along with each other and have peace?" - fails to appreciate the realities of life.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
We put a stop to this political-economic attack on us by France, Germany, and Russia, and invaded Iraq over objections of countries in bed with Saddam.

US corps had interests there too at that time just like they do in Iran NOW.....

now? we have it ALL don't we? LOL....

Not yet, but we have more than we had, and stopped France, Russia, and Germany from taking over the mideast oil supply. Liberals would have let this happen just to frustrate corporate, driving this country into bankruptcy.

hmmmmm....


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now we're just fighting an unjust war which is driving this country into bankruptcy. either way we will become bankrupt.. owning all the oil in the world doesnt make a difference if the largest consumer of it cant afford to buy it...

also art.. on a little side note.. i find it rather "convenient" that the wmd's were hastily transported to syria..(another country on israels list) so we can attack them. after that im sure they will be transported or sold to iran next, we will be chasing these non-existing wmd's all over the countries in the way of a "greater israel" in the name of the war on terror..its rather amusing how this works, and its even more amusing that you believe it..my applause goes out to the media on a job well done.

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These trucks could have contained Saddam's WMD - no one can validly argue agains this.

then why ARE YOU?

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jeez glass... do you ever sleep?.. [Smile]

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yeah just woke up, still got the keyboard impressions on my forehead... [Big Grin]

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I like the kid's idea of next Syria, then Iran, and get all the oil in the mideast.

GM needs to keep his truck going.

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quote:
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I like the kid's idea of next Syria, then Iran, and get all the oil in the mideast.

GM needs to keep his truck going.

yeah, like i said, wasn't that what we were fighting against in WW2?

Japan's move into SE asia WAS for oil, and they attacked Pearl cuz they had to control the MIDPAC...

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Yep. We won that one too.

Maybe that is why we have the strongest economy in the world.

Liberals should take the high moral ground and move to Cuba.

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quote:
Originally posted by Art:
quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
Art you sound like a broken record...

keep repeating rumors long enough and they become "truth"


NO WMD in Iraq period. certified/verified by the Pentagon... LOL

Saddam once had WMD, used them against Iran and the Kurds in Iraq, and was close to having an atomic bomb just before we repelled him from Kuwait in the Desert Storm war.

True or False?

2. No one knows if there are WMD in Iraq. We do know that they have not found any yet.

Is this true or false?

3. Just before the US invasion, Iraqi trucks were observed to be hastily transporting something to Syria.

Is this true or false?

These trucks could have contained Saddam's WMD - no one can validly argue agains this.

There aren't any WMD's in Iraq. They are in Syria I strongly believe. We have satellite photos of a mobile building that was torn down and moved by truck convoys to Syria, 2 weeks before we entered Iraq for the second time.

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Yes, and the trucks went from Syria to the Bekka valley in Lebanon.

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if you want to attack a country? just say you hate 'em and quit making excuses...

here this makes about as much sense...

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end.php

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I've been saying it for years. Just wait until Cali falls into the ocean. One big quake and buh-bye. It's sad to say, but it's gonna happen someday.

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OK, so far the only non-blogger media outlet i can find that weighs in on the subject is MSNBC...and before you say "liberal claptrap" think about who owns MSNBC....

U.S. found no evidence WMD moved from Iraq
No signs that weapons were smuggled, intelligence officials say
The Associated Press
Updated: 2:24 a.m. ET Jan. 17, 2005

WASHINGTON - As the hunt for weapons of mass destruction dragged on unsuccessfully in Iraq, top Bush administration officials speculated publicly that the banned armaments may have been smuggled out of the country before the war started.



there are older articles that all suggest that WMD was moved, but, NO evidence has ever been collected to support the SPECULATION....

it really doesn't make STRATEGIC sense for Saddam to have moved them...

if he had them? and he believed that attack was truly imminent? then he would have deployed them..

and Syria? they are our enemy, i'm not suggesting they should be buddied up tooo,
BUT why would they wan to risk Saddam's fate? i suggest that if the trucks were going into Syria? they were loaded with cash......

this is the strongest statement i can find by an individual "in the know"

In an interview in October, retired Lt. Gen. James R. Clapper Jr., who heads the U.S. agency that processes and analyzes satellite imagery, said he thinks that Saddam's underlings hid banned weapons of mass destruction before the war.
"I think personally that those below the senior leadership saw what was coming, and I think they went to some extraordinary lengths to dispose of the evidence," said Gen. Clapper, who heads the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency. "I'll call it an 'educated hunch.' "


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The discussion of the possible movement of wmd's was watched and reported on before the first bombs and while weapons inspectors were around.

This didn't "just Occur" after none were found.

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Saddam had WMD.

No evidence they were destoyed in Iraq, and traces or other evidence would have remained where destroyed.

Obviously aliens abducted them from Iraq.

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i wonder if the sale of the F16's to Pakistan signals that we are now convinced that osamabeenalivetoolong is not in Pakistan.....

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quote:
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Saddam had WMD.

No evidence they were destoyed in Iraq, and traces or other evidence would have remained where destroyed.

Obviously aliens abducted them from Iraq.

how about they were used up?
on Kurds...
that we encouraged to rebel...
that we abandoned:
on demand by Saudi Arabia and Turkey?


there were proscribed weapons found, but NOT WMD

WMD are just as dangerous to the handlers and the technicians responsible for them as they are to the people they will be used against...
it's not a simple matter of keeping bio's or nukes in a paint locker....they require considerable expertise and care at all times...

we would have been able to track the existence and transport of them thru intel....

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no it means we have a way to blow them up quickly with f-18's
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quote:
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no it means we have a way to blow them up quickly with f-18's

i bet we install "self-destruct" devices in them anyway...
the real problem they represent is that India is pi$$ed...
but i'm sure that has been weighed and measured carefully....
maybe Pakistan needs them to get at the butthead...

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india's been driving up our oil prices...

don't look for pakistan to use conventional weapons in kashmir.

i doubt they would take him out so publicly.

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"We got into a lot of trouble in Iraq by listening to exiles and dissidents,"

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yes, India is a formidable opponent..
they are the largest democracy in the world...

hmmmmm...we are allied against another democracy?

what a novel concept....

can't imagine how that could happen...

i'm just sure it's a freak accident...

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we are anit-india????
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why do you think we supplied Pakistan with nuclear technology?

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are you saying we want them to NUKE india?
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we set Pakistan up to balance out India....

we and the UK trained their people...

no we don't want them to nuke anybody..

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Weaknes invites aggression.

A balance of power achieves mutual strength and eliminates weakness on either side - promotes peace.

The key is to balance Indian and Pakistani strength, which is why we wisely supplied nuclear help to Pakistan, and why we will help Tiawan and Japan with nuclear tech against N. Korea and China to promote peace in Asia.

Selling planes to Pakistan does not upset the balanc eof power and is simply rewarding Pakistan for assistance.

Republicans reward countries that are friendly and punishes countries opposing the U.S., while liberals do the opposite.

As an example, Clinton took campaign money from China and in return gave China computer tech that was militarily useful, and then looked the other way when China was stealing all our nuclear arms tech.

Bush would never have let any of this happen.

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