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I work hard in life primarily for my kids..for a better life now and all I work for to GIVE to them when I am gone. I earned it and I choose to give to my kids who matter most to me. Yes, initiative is harmed when one has to give to state. I am sorry..I do not work hard so you as a parasite can be lazy and take what i earn away.
I do not work for you but for me and my kids. sorry..but get a job and quit complaining.
Life is not fair but life is as we make it. I can cry all my life how unfair it is or I can make the best of what i got.
I think help should be available for those that fall to adverse events but only as a temproary relief. I do what I got to to survive. you can to! and so can all .
When there are freebiew, those that parasite come flying over.
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Under socialism or communism, you work not just for yourself or your family, but for the state. This state establishes a ruling bureacracy that lives like the king and his court to rule you and to live off of your labor, and often oppresses you.
This is what is happening in Cuba, Gemany, France, Canada, etc., and even in the U.S. as liberal policies are put in place.
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Bah, your stupidity has encouraged me to return to this thread...
"I do not work for you but for me and my kids. sorry..but get a job and quit complaining."
Haha, that better not be directed at me... I usually worked about 2-3 good paying jobs at a time during highschool AND through University financing my own education and investing the **** out of it. I'm well aware of what hard work is. I'm also worth a lot more accounting for inflation than any of you were at my age, no doubt.
"I am sorry..I do not work hard so you as a parasite can be lazy and take what i earn away."
Keep your money you 3 dollar yankee peice of trash, see if I give a ****. But when the 'parasites' break into your house and threaten your safety, don't bitch about it. They've been 'oppressed' by capitalism, its no different from state oppression. One dominant class oppressing another...
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thinkmoney: "I do not work for you but for me and my kids. sorry..but get a job and quit complaining."
kevin: Haha, that better not be directed at me... I usually worked about 2-3 good paying jobs at a time during highschool AND through University financing my own education and investing the **** out of it. I'm well aware of what hard work is. I'm also worth a lot more accounting for inflation than any of you were at my age, no doubt.
Art: You work for Canada more for yourself - your earnings largely go to the the Canadian government to waste it, let a bloated bureauracracy live in high style, and give it to other parasites who toake more from than they give to Canada (and reproduce to make more future parasites).
thinkmoney: I am sorry..I do not work hard so you as a parasite can be lazy and take what i earn away.
kevin: Keep your money you 3 dollar yankee peice of trash, see if I give a ****.
Art: Wow! What an intelligent argument - only a liberal could assert this.
kevin: But when the 'parasites' break into your house and threaten your safety, don't bitch about it. They've been 'oppressed' by capitalism, its no different from state oppression. One dominant class oppressing another...
Art: The parasites don't break into my house and never will - I'm armed and ready. They are more likely to break into your house in Canada.
The British have been disarming their innocent citizens for many years, thus allowing only criminals to get guns, and their crime rate has steadily risen and is the highest in the world - liberal policies. Per capita crime rates in the largest U.S. cities are much lower than in London. Australia has also starting doing this, along with Canada, and the result is again a rising crime rate. Some states in the U.S. have right to carry guns laws, and they have very low crime rates.
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Art, did you know that Tenn Care is considering suing Wal-Mart because Tenn-care has to spend 50 million$ a year on health costs for WalMart employees? is this capitalism or socialism?
and if you drop somebody (even in your house) the legal bills will be pretty high, one way or another----
i too, am insured by Smith and Wesson, but i don't relish the trouble
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What are you talking about? Their are more murders per capita in the US because your all ****ing gun nuts...
"The parasites don't break into my house and never will - I'm armed and ready. "
Your way more likely to accidentally kill a family member then a criminal.
"They are more likely to break into your house in Canada."
No, our crime rates here are substantially lower than in the US. Sorry man, I can see some of your arguments as being valid, but if your suggesting break-ins are more likely here than in the USA, you have NO IDEA what the **** your talking about...
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"You work for Canada more for yourself - your earnings largely go to the the Canadian government to waste it, let a bloated bureauracracy live in high style, and give it to other parasites who toake more from than they give to Canada (and reproduce to make more future parasites)."
Americans work until April\May before they get to keep their own money. In Canada, its May\June. The difference...
- free and often better health care - significantly less crime - that good feeling that people aren't dying in the streets because you think driving a luxury SUV is more important than less fortunate people's well being - a prosperous and STABLE economy (our recessions are shallower than yours) - a society that promotes class mobolity
Whether you believe it or not is not my concern, but by taxing a little more our 'parasites' become an investment. We spend the extra money for job training, cheaper tuition, entrepeneurship assistance, etc.. So instead of reproducing parasites, we develop an economically able contributing and tax paying citizen. Its called social investment, and it works, its why America is slowly becoming Europe's economic bitch.
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: "You work for Canada more for yourself - your earnings largely go to the the Canadian government to waste it, let a bloated bureauracracy live in high style, and give it to other parasites who toake more from than they give to Canada (and reproduce to make more future parasites)."
Americans work until April\May before they get to keep their own money. In Canada, its May\June. The difference...
- free and often better health care - significantly less crime - that good feeling that people aren't dying in the streets because you think driving a luxury SUV is more important than less fortunate people's well being - a prosperous and STABLE economy (our recessions are shallower than yours) - a society that promotes class mobolity
Whether you believe it or not is not my concern, but by taxing a little more our 'parasites' become an investment. We spend the extra money for job training, cheaper tuition, entrepeneurship assistance, etc.. So instead of reproducing parasites, we develop an economically able contributing and tax paying citizen. Its called social investment, and it works, its why America is slowly becoming Europe's economic bitch.
So, that Canadian lied when she wrote about Canada in the Seattle times?
Your crime rate is increasing - the U.S. crime rate is slowing down.
Your standard of living is decreasing relative to ours.
Your free health care sucks - many Canadians come to the U.S. to get the best of care.
Your brightest are coming to the U.S. (your well known brain drain) while parasites go into Canada for welfare and free health care.
Deny reality - that is what liberals do best (along with demeaning the source of an agrument without addresing the argument in a rational fashion).
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"Your crime rate is increasing - the U.S. crime rate is slowing down.
Your standard of living is decreasing relative to ours.
Your free health care sucks - many Canadians come to the U.S. to get the best of care.
Your brightest are coming to the U.S. (your well known brain drain) while parasites go into Canada for welfare and free health care. "
and then...
"along with demeaning the source of an agrument without addresing the argument in a rational fashion"
your source of this is one bitch's account... where is your PROOF? I.E. statistics. I could find MANY Americans that could rip up America, but that doesn't prove ****.
Our crime rate is LESS than yours. Our standard of living is HIGHER than yours. Our health care DOES NOT suck.
"Deny reality"
You love to do this. Continue to live in your fantasy land...
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National Post (Canada) June 15, 2004 Tuesday National Edition
BYLINE: John R. Lott Jr. and Eli Lehrer
BODY: Gun control has not worked in Canada. Since the new gun registration program started in 1998, the U.S. homicide rate has fallen, but the Canadian rate has increased. The net cost of Canada's gun registry has surged beyond $1-billion -- more than 500 times the amount originally estimated. Despite this, the Canadian government recently admitted it could not identify a single violent crime that had been solved through registration. Public confidence in the government's ability to fight crime has also eroded, with one recent survey showing only 17% of voters support the registration program
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standard of living, Canada wants to close gap with u.s.
Annex 4 Improving Canadian Living Standards Highlights The central objective of economic and social policy is to enhance the well-being of people through higher living standards and a higher quality of life. Growth in Canada’s living standards has increased substantially over the past five years, more than in any other Group of Seven (G-7) country. Our superior performance since 1997 has narrowed the gap in living standards between Canada and the United States, but a sizeable gap remains. Both stronger productivity growth and labour market progress have been responsible for narrowing the Canada-US living standards gap since 1997. Looking ahead, population aging will limit the scope for further large contributions from employment and we will need to look predominantly to stronger productivity growth to raise living standards and help close the gap with the United States. Economic factors such as fiscal and monetary stability, competitive taxes, investment in learning, new technologies and research and innovation are all key to helping Canada improve its productivity performance. Equally important is building a stronger society to give Canadians a higher quality of life and the skills and confidence to participate in the new economy. Only through integrated and complementary economic and social progress will Canada achieve its goal of strong and sustainable living standards growth along with a better quality of life for all Canadians in the future.
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HAHA keithsan... so in the 80s when we had a conservative in power... the Canadian economy wasn't in its best shape... now in the 90s when we have liberals in power... we're 'closing the gap' and you just proved Art wrong when he says 'Your standard of living is decreasing relative to ours.'. Sorry, I don't really care that much, but I just think thats awesome that Art was litterally proven to be making a statement that is factually incorrect. Come back with your bull****, but we've got proof that statement specifcally is incorrect, there is no doubting that...
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Wow... check out that GDP growth per capita... Canada AND France's economies are growing faster than the US... Art, come on, defend your theories here...
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"Canada’s recent $100-billion tax cut created tax advantages for firms and entrepreneurs to grow"
When we give tax cuts not only do they actually work, but we're fiscally responsible enough not to **** over our children's children with massive deficets...
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: Woah, we're such 'commies'...
"Canada’s recent $100-billion tax cut created tax advantages for firms and entrepreneurs to grow"
When we give tax cuts not only do they actually work, but we're fiscally responsible enough not to **** over our children's children with massive deficets...
hmmmm....
Paul Martin's seventh budget was a delicate balancing act-- juggling tax cuts, new spending, and debt reduction. The federal Liberals think he got the balance just about right. But others, especially the government's political opponents in Parliament, say Martin should take some juggling lessons. There was wide praise for the surprise decision to restore full indexation to the tax system. But the praise generally stopped there.
Reform Party leader Preston Manning was not impressed. He called the tax cuts "half-baked" and said they amounted to half the cuts Reform had been proposing. Manning said he was astonished that there was no mention of the spending scandal in the Human Resources Development Canada department, and criticized the budget's spending increases.
Bloc Quebecois leader Gilles Duceppe criticized the budget for not doing more to restore funding to the provinces, or the unemployed.
Conservative leader Joe Clark was pleased with the restoration of full indexation, something he said his party had been pushing for for several years. But he said the budget did little to prepare the country for the future. "Too timid", said Clark. He predicted that, five years from now, Canada would still have the highest personal tax rates among the G7 countries. Clark said corporate tax should have been cut further to allow Canadian companies to compete on a more equal footing with other countries.
Alexa McDonough, the leader of the NDP, said the budget's priority should have been health care. "For every $1 in tax cuts, this budget came up with two cents of spending on health care. It doesn't even begin to restore the damage," she said. McDonough called it a prescription for even longer waits in hospital emergency rooms.
Almost every one of the provincial premiers agreed with McDonough that the 2000 budget was painfully lacking in health care support. Ontario Premier Mike Harris called the budget's special $2.4 billion health funding transfer "inadequate." Alberta Premier Ralph Klein says his cut of that fund will keep his province's hospitals running for only six days, while Saskatchewan Premier Roy Romanow says the money will create "a patchwork quilt" of health delivery across the country.
Walter Robinson of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation said the elimination of "bracket creep" was a "monumental victory" for his organization and 15 million taxpayers. "No finance minister will take it (bracket creep) out now. He (Martin) ignored his spin doctors and listened to Canadians," Robinson said.
Laurie Rektor of The National Anti-Poverty Organization criticized the size of the Child Tax Credit increase, which she said would amount to just $70 a year. She also said there was nothing to solve the roots of homelessness. She said the tax cuts will benefit high income earners the most.
Michael Conlon of the Canadian Federation of Students said Martin's budget all but ensures that tuition fees will continue to go up at post-secondary indstitutions. His organization had lobbied for $3.7 billion for education, an amount that he said would have restored post-secondary funding to 1993/94 levels.
Dr. Hugh Scully of the Canadian Medical Association called the budget's section on health funding "very disappointing". Scully said it falls short of providing the money needed to restore earlier cuts. Referring to an Angus Reid poll earlier this month that suggested Canadians top priority for spending was health, Scully said, "Canadians have been very clear on their priorities, and they weren't met today."
Ken Georgetti of of the Canadian Labour Congress says the budget did nothing for child care alleviation, even with a huge surplus, but instead chose to "surrender to the champagne-set."
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You brought up the subject of Canada being stupid with money by spending 1 billion on a useless gun registry, and I completely agree with you.
I've now brought up some stupid American spending, like 1.2 trillion on a missle shield that won't work and 1 trillion on tax cuts that have failed to bring back America's economic growth to Canada and France. I AGREED with your argument, just because you don't want to address my point that America is just as stupid if not more with the money your government taxes from you isn't a VALID reason for you to bitch about it...
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What the **** are you 'hmmm'ing about?? In any GOOD parliment there is that kind of debate and squabbling among party leaders. Our public figures are peices of **** just like yours, the difference is we have a choice other than 'corporate influenced party a' and 'corporate influenced party b', which keeps them more accountable...
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Lets take a gander at some of the things included in the Patriot Act: Part 2...
Section 201, ?Prohibition of Disclosure of Terrorism Investigation Detainee Information? - makes it even easier to ignore Freedom of Information Act requests when they pertain to suspected terrorists in government custody. Section 202, ?Distribution of ?Worst Case Scenario? Information? - would limit access to Environmental Protection Agency information about risks to environment and individuals by corporate chemical accidents to people living in the potential risk area. Which seems sensible, but of cource makes oversight by public environmental watchdog organizations impossible. Section 301-306, ?Terrorist Identification Database? - authorizes creation of a DNA database on ?suspected terrorists,? while siginificantly expanding the definition of ?suspected terrorists?. Section 312, ?Appropriate Remedies with Respect to Law Enforcement Surveillance Activities? - terminates all state law enforcement consent decrees before Sept. 11, 2001 that are not related to racial profiling or other civil rights violations, that limit such agencies from gathering information about individuals and organizations. The authors of this statute claim that these consent orders, which were passed as a result of police spying abuses, could impede current terrorism investigations. It would also place substantial restrictions on future court injunctions. Section 501, ?Expatriation of Terrorists? - allows lawful activities by U.S. citizens with a group designated as a ?terrorist organization? by the Attorney General to be reason enough to revoke one's citizenship.
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: I thought swearing was the only way to get through to a yankee. Its in all your most popular movies and tv shows...
I'll throw in a couple yeehaw's and 'misunderestimates' if that'll make me less european...
attempting to think is your main issue...
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: You brought up the subject of Canada being stupid with money by spending 1 billion on a useless gun registry, and I completely agree with you.
I've now brought up some stupid American spending, like 1.2 trillion on a missle shield that won't work and 1 trillion on tax cuts that have failed to bring back America's economic growth to Canada and France. I AGREED with your argument, just because you don't want to address my point that America is just as stupid if not more with the money your government taxes from you isn't a VALID reason for you to bitch about it...
I only brought it up in response to a statement by you, nothing i posted was a proble I had. They were all Claims YOU made.
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: What the **** are you 'hmmm'ing about?? In any GOOD parliment there is that kind of debate and squabbling among party leaders. Our public figures are peices of **** just like yours, the difference is we have a choice other than 'corporate influenced party a' and 'corporate influenced party b', which keeps them more accountable...
LOL- doesn't look like a choice to me....
see what you want. LOL
I only posted it because you said "awesome 100bill tax cut...blah blah...(i'm paraphrasing by the way)
again, you make a claim and can not defend it.
enjoy recess tomorrow, hope mommy cut the crust off your PBandJ
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: What the **** are you 'hmmm'ing about?? In any GOOD parliment there is that kind of debate and squabbling among party leaders. Our public figures are peices of **** just like yours, the difference is we have a choice other than 'corporate influenced party a' and 'corporate influenced party b', which keeps them more accountable...
I wasn't ****ing HMMMMMMn. It was canadians. Get that straight.
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: Yeah, 1 billion on a gun registry program was a ****ing stupid idea.
Though I guess a 1 trillion dollar tax cut for the rich is a ****ing stupid idea too.
Five percent of the U.S. taxpayers pay over 50% of the taxes. We never had a tax cut for the rich - all our tax cuts have been greater for the poor than the rich on a percentage basis and all of our tax increases have been greater for the rich than for the poor on a percentage basis.
Liberal propaganda otherwise is a lie. Liberals simply can't tell the truth, perhaps because they don't know what it is.
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quote:Originally posted by kevin954: HAHA keithsan... so in the 80s when we had a conservative in power... the Canadian economy wasn't in its best shape... now in the 90s when we have liberals in power... we're 'closing the gap' and you just proved Art wrong when he says 'Your standard of living is decreasing relative to ours.'. Sorry, I don't really care that much, but I just think thats awesome that Art was litterally proven to be making a statement that is factually incorrect. Come back with your bull****, but we've got proof that statement specifcally is incorrect, there is no doubting that...
1.2 trillion for a missle shield that can be proven will never work??? 10 billion for 2005 spending on it alone???
That's funny - from a group that would like to see the U.S. disarm completley and totally, in support of all enemies of the U.S.
Our mislile system has passed two important tests - it works. Iran and Korea have missiles with soon-to-be nuclear capability. We need anti-missile development, regardless of what you and other enemies of the U.S. say.
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