the first time it was because H Ross Perot torpedoed Bush Sr.....
the second time? i haven NO freakin idear....
i voted for Dole...who is so conservative that he was the first politician to get on NETWORK TV ads to promote porn....VIAGRA... the liberal versus consrvative gig is just like SPY VS SPY....foolishness....
quote:Originally posted by glassman: why did Clinton win?
the first time it was because H Ross Perot torpedoed Bush Sr.....
the second time? i haven NO freakin idear....
i voted for Dole...who is so conservative that he was the first politician to get on NETWORK TV ads to promote porn....VIAGRA... the liberal versus consrvative gig is just like SPY VS SPY....foolishness....
that year i voted for 2 lesbians on the ballot that no one heard of, the lesbian party i think, but this year in mass, you couldn't get nadar on the ballot.
Posts: 9110 | From: boston, ma | Registered: Jan 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
so if you are a democrat, and you want to win the next election you find a right wing nut-case to strip off 10% to 15% of the ultra right wingers that voted for Bush this time...put him/her on the ticket too...
Senator Spector is now signing letters of intent to work for the president?
you people think this is conservative government? this isn't conservative government...this is blackmail and extortion... i see freedom disappearing fast....Specter represents the people of Pennsylavania, not the white house and not Falwell....the sickness spreads...better hope it isn't a total pandemic...
quote:Originally posted by glassman: so if you are a democrat, and you want to win the next election you find a right wing nut-case to strip off 10% to 15% of the ultra right wingers that voted for Bush this time...put him/her on the ticket too...
Senator Spector is now signing letters of intent to work for the president?
you people think this is conservative government? this isn't conservative government...this is blackmail and extortion... i see freedom disappearing fast....Specter represents the people of Pennsylavania, not the white house and not Falwell....the sickness spreads...better hope it isn't a total pandemic...
Relax G on the paranoia eh....
Mr. B has been in hous 4 and my rights are just fine, there are kinks to work out with the patriot act but that was agreed on by both parties.
Your talking about what could be, stop listening to NPR and watching CNN your getting brain washed.
-i think big brother is even watching us here, i just had sizzling thread removed (sorry bob, thought it was funny)
Posts: 9110 | From: boston, ma | Registered: Jan 2004
| IP: Logged |
you're only paranoid if they're not really out to get you(re money)
i saw it on Tom Brokaw....Specter said no way would a judge that was going to overturn roe-v-wade was going to get passed thru the senate judicial committee (which he was head of) this caused a big ruckus...
[This message has been edited by glassman (edited November 19, 2004).]
posted
has anyone ever really heard the clintons say they pray before? Have they ever mentioned God in terms of prayer and/or meditation? anyone who can site times they have discussed faith (aside from the seperation of it and state) please let me know.
Posts: 1153 | From: northeast | Registered: Apr 2004
| IP: Logged |
Heres the first passage. Prayer is mentioned numerious times in his speech.
Clinton's Speech To White House Prayer Breakfast September 11, 1998
Welcome to the White House and to this day to which Hillary and the Vice President and I look forward so much every year.
This is always an important day for our country, for the reasons that the Vice President said; it is an unusual and, I think, unusually important day today.
I may not be quite as easy with my words today as I have been in years past. And I was up rather late last night thinking about and praying about what I ought to say today. And rather unusually for me, I actually tried to write it down. So if you will forgive me, I will do my best to say what it is I want to say to you, and I may have to take my glasses out to read my own writing. First, I want to say to all of you that, as you might imagine, I have been on quite a journey these last few weeks to get to the end of this, to the rock-bottom truth of where I am and where we all are.
Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
REMARKS BY THE PRESIDENT AND THE FIRST LADY AT CHRISTMAS II: HOLY EUCHARIST SERVICES
Washington National Cathedral Washington, D.C.
11:44 A.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: Gathered in the spirit of truth and hope, in unity and peace, at the beginning of the new year, the dawn of a new century, and at the turn of the third millennium, let us offer before God our prayers and thanksgivings.
We give you thanks, oh, God, for the goodness and love you have made known to us in creation. You fill the world with beauty. Open our eyes to see your handiwork and all creation, and in one another.
AUDIENCE: We thank you and praise you, oh, God.
Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
FO, you and a few others? i sometimes wonder if you have any clue at all... questioning Clinton's religious affiliations shows major ignorance...he is more overtly religious than any president in the modern age.... including Bush, the way Bush has done it is behind the scenes... Clinton regularly went to church while in the white house... i didn't keep track of how often, but i'm pretty sure it was every Sunday...
this new conservative movement has seriously distorted reality...at least for a few of you...
posted
Something I thought was funny last night, I was thumbing through TV channels and Bill O'Reilly was doing his talking point. He was talking about the Clinton, Jennings interview were Clinton blamed reporters for running with the stories. What I thought was so funning was O'Reilly's rant on and on about Clinton and what he did. While his whole sexual harassment case was paid off with millions of dollars of hush money. What a hypocrite. How does these people get by with this. They can look over O'Reilly and forget Rush was a druggie but when its a Democrat the morality spews over to discontent and hatred. Also, I thought it was so funny how O'Reilly would tell people he hadn't made up his mind on who he was voting for, before the election, what a character.
O'Reilly talking about sexual misconduct is like Michael Jackson talking about the wrongs of being a pedophile.
Ric
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited November 20, 2004).]
Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Ric, on o'reilly, i love when those types of individuals get caught, its fun to watch the squirming,
I personally don't like o'reilly, some of his views are way to conservative, although hes liberal on issues to, he's kind of all over the place, which is similar to me but, most of the issues he's conservative on i find him to be a loon.
Rush is an idiot, and i read about his issues many times in the media. Remember these guys aren't presidents. They are entertainers....
Posts: 9110 | From: boston, ma | Registered: Jan 2004
| IP: Logged |
quote:Originally posted by Ric: Something I thought was funny last night, I was thumbing through TV channels and Bill O'Reilly was doing his talking point. He was talking about the Clinton, Jennings interview were Clinton blamed reporters for running with the stories. What I thought was so funning was O'Reilly's rant on and on about Clinton and what he did. While his whole sexual harassment case was paid off with millions of dollars of hush money. What a hypocrite. How does these people get by with this. They can look over O'Reilly and forget Rush was a druggie but when its a Democrat the morality spews over to discontent and hatred. Also, I thought it was so funny how O'Reilly would tell people he hadn't made up his mind on who he was voting for, before the election, what a character.
O'Reilly talking about sexual misconduct is like Michael Jackson talking about the wrongs of being a pedophile.
Ric
So what did O'Reily do that you equate morally with Clinton's use of subordinates for actual sexual purposes and Clinton's other sexual adventures including attempted rape?
posted
I didn't equate the two, as far as one being worst then the other. Sometimes I wonder about you Art. O'Reilly sexually harrassed his employee. He paid his way out of it yet he claims moral authority to condemn others. He used his power to sexually harrass an employee. Do you think that isn't immoral? Thats wrong and Foxnews should not allow people like this to be on there air let alone give them this story. But ratings are more important then scum hosts, yet they claim the christain right audience. How funny.
And before anyone says there is no proof, O'Reilly said he would never settle this lie on his TV show. Then there was a rumor she taped the phone calls and mettings at dinner. His lawyer filed in court to see any audio evidence. Two days later there was a settlement and a non discloser contract. We know it was for more then 2 Million because she turned that down. I think most here are smart enough to know the truth here.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by Art: So what did O'Reily do that you equate morally with Clinton's use of subordinates for actual sexual purposes and Clinton's other sexual adventures including attempted rape?
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited November 21, 2004).]
Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
posted
Just saying the right claims it biggest issue is morals. And fox pushed the morals issue all election. Look at the polls.
I wouldn't say that CNN was on Kerry's payroll no more then I would say Foxnews was on Bush's. Yet it is a fact that CNN host tended to favor Kerry and FOX made it clear who they were for.
Foxnews does have higher rating then Cnn 2 to 1. But lets not forget NBS news has 5 times the rating of any Foxnews and even ABC and CBS (Danny boy) has a 4 times more each then Foxnews. So not sure what the rating thing you mentioned has to do with letting a scum bag host a news show that made morals a issue. If morals suppose to be one of the rights new slogan then thay should stand up against immorality in all cases, not just when its a Democrat.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by keithsan: He probably did it, but all of the right to change the channel.
CNN had its emplyees working for Kerry, is that ok too....morally responsible, fair and balanced...
Fox can claim all audiences except the left it is the most widely viewed and by a long margin, even with cnn being in more homes, hotels etc....
[This message has been edited by Ric (edited November 21, 2004).]
Posts: 4405 | From: Bristol, Tn, USA | Registered: Aug 2004
| IP: Logged |
UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!
Printer-friendly view of this topic
